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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 12:14 PM
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Car: 1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
What do you think of this deal ?

I have found a 1992 GM L98 350 TPI complete motor, still in the crate at a dealership. I am not sure why they still have it. They want $4,000 for it, what do you think ?
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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 02:05 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Seems pricy, I think for around 4K you could do the following:

running Junk yard Car (complete with L98 Engine) $1000
To rebuild the Engine, figure around $1000 depending on condition.
install a performance cam, $250
Some other special things you wanted to do,
get stainless headers & stainless cat-back for around $1000.

Keep in mind if your doing a conversion, you can pick up TPI intakes from E-bay for under 6-800 all day long. Get yourself a crate engine long block w/o intake for around 2500.

still have money left over for the other things you need, like Fuel Pump, wireing harness, ECM etc..

In short, I think there are better options out there.

John

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87 Formula Yellow/Black
Engine & Transmission
.040 over 5.0 converted to TPI, 9.5:1 Compression, SLP Cam Dur 206/212, Lift 480/487, Cent Line 112, SLP headers, SLP cat-back exhaust, K&N Airfilter, Modified Stock cold air intake, Ported & polished Stock TPI intake, Holley Adjustable Fuel Press regulator, AC Rapidfire Spark Plugs.
Gil Younger (no yo-yo) Shift Kit, Aluminum Driveshaft, 3.73 Posi gear
Suspension & Brakes:
Baer 12" brakes 4 wheels, KYB AGX Adjustable Shocks & struts, Hotchkis strut tower brace, South side machine frame connectors, Custom reinforced control arms and pan hard bar.
Interior:
Custom Leather interior, CUSTOM Yellow Gauge Faces, Kenwood Receiver, Pioneer Speakers, Kicker Substations, Kenwood 10 Disk Changer, Pioneer Amp.

87 Formula TPI (5 Speed) Yellow/Gray STOCK

1967 Buick Riviera 430hp Turns high 14's (Not bad for 4300 lbs)

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83 T/A (parts)

http://www.3rdgenformula.com
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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 02:13 PM
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From: Jefferson City, MO, USA
Car: 1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
That is kind of what I was thinking. What crate engine is set up for the computer friendly roller cam needed for my 1990 Camaro. I don't mind putting a different cam in, but I have not found a crate engine already machined to accept the roller cam and my local machine shop does not do this. Thanks for the reply.


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1990 RS Camaro 305 TBI
700R4 Tranny
3" cat back system with flowmaster mufler
Edelbrock strut brace tower and rear panhard bar
Spohn subframe conectors and lower control arms
all polyurithene bushing under the car
March underdrive pully
K&N filter
Hypertech chip
Aluminum driveshaft
3.42 posi rearend
Killer sound system
Many new mods to come


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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 02:44 PM
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Car: Non F-body :(
Engine: Pontiac 301
Transmission: TH350
Scoggin-Dickey <A HREF="http://www.sdpc2000.com/">http://www.sdpc2000.com/</A> has the ZZ4 for $3399.50, quite a bit lower than the $4000 your local dealer wants. And it's 355 HP too. If you want to spend all of the $4000 on a motor they've got a fastburn 385 HP 350 for $3899.95, but you can't run a TPI atop it without some work (hello miniram-III!)

And both are set up with hydraulic roller cams from the get-go.
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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 02:56 PM
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From: Jefferson City, MO, USA
Car: 1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
The ZZ4 options sounds very interesting, this site has a lot of people running this motor, but I don't know if I have seen a user with this motor and a TPI system on top of it. Do you know of any articles on this or can someone lend me some help on what I would need to do. Thanks.

Shawn

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1990 RS Camaro 305 TBI
700R4 Tranny
3" cat back system with flowmaster mufler
Edelbrock strut brace tower and rear panhard bar
Spohn subframe conectors and lower control arms
all polyurithene bushing under the car
March underdrive pully
K&N filter
Hypertech chip
Aluminum driveshaft
3.42 posi rearend
Killer sound system
Many new mods to come
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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 04:31 PM
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Found a wrecked cop car awhile back. The junkyard wanted $600 for the entire running engine(LT-1) . Thought I would throw this in for reference.


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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 04:55 PM
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Transmission: 700R4
The ZZ4 is made for TPI and TBI isn't it? It should be a direct swap.
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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 05:05 PM
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The ZZ4 was designed for a Carb setup. I know Mike Davis used his ZZ4 with TPI. He has had great success with it.

Check his page out.

Brendan

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To see the ROC, Check out the webpage Here
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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 05:46 PM
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The ZZ4 is an easy swap but there are a few things to deal with but not bad. I have seen several N/A ZZ4 TPI cars run solid 12's. I hope to do the same but I got N2O just in case.

http://www.fuelinjectedpower.com/db2...mages/pic4.jpg

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1991 Z28 ZZ4 with LPE superram base, SLP runners, LPE 58mm T-body,Random Technology ramair,TES headers,24#svo injectors,ZEX nitrous,Walbro 255lph f-pump,Accel AFPR,Random Technology catback,!cats,and mutch more.
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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 06:51 PM
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From: Jefferson City, MO, USA
Car: 1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Thanks for the info. Where can the Mike Davis web page be found, I'd like to see how he did this ?

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1990 RS Camaro 305 TBI
700R4 Tranny
3" cat back system with flowmaster mufler
Edelbrock strut brace tower and rear panhard bar
Spohn subframe conectors and lower control arms
all polyurithene bushing under the car
March underdrive pully
K&N filter
Hypertech chip
Aluminum driveshaft
3.42 posi rearend
Killer sound system
Many new mods to come

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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 09:06 PM
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From: Dale City, VA
Car: 91 GTA and 85 IROC
Engine: 355
Transmission: gear jammer
Axle/Gears: 4.11
I got the ZZ4 and love it. I just ran 13.7 w/ my mods in mysig. I'm still running the stock injectors and intake off the original 305. The only problem I ran into was the 4 bolt holes in the center of the intake manifold. They had to be oblonged because of the AL- heads. I still got the stock gears as well. The power difference was night and day. I love it. Need more help? Post it or email me. tharney@erols.com

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Mods: ZZ4 engine w/stock TPI, adj, fuel pres. reg., MSD 8.5, HI6S ign. w/ PS-91 coil, K&N filter, TPI air foil, Hooker comp. shorties, American Thunder flows. 160* stat., TB bypass.
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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 10:46 PM
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Car: 1989 TTA #1240
Engine: 3.8 SFI turbo
Transmission: 2004r
Axle/Gears: 3.27
tat 355 hp rating was done with a carb on top it will be a bit lower with the tpi however they do make an emissions legal tpi zz4 for 3rd gens for a little more

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87 trans am,gm crate 350(4 bolt mains 10to1),L98 aluminum heads,LT4 hot cam,slp runners,slp 1 5/8 headers,3in.y-pipe,edelbrock base,hi flo cat,air foil,afpr,as&m ported plenum,gutted airbox,t-5 tranny w/centerforce clutch and a 3.27 9bolt(11.9in. brakes),ed wright's fastchip,relocated iat sensor,160 fan switch,tb bypass,accel supercoil,cap& rotor,hollowed maf,slp 3in. catbcak.

FOR SALE!FOR SALE!FOR SALE!FOR SALE!FOR SALE!

EVRYTHING IS FOR SALE WITH MY CAR (EXTRA ENGINE,TPI INTAKES,RUNNNERS,PLENUMS,ECM W/CHIP,ETC.
GETTING OUT OF THE 3RD GEN MARKET BEST OFFERS
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