Beater79TA

I purchased from Glasstek. Their website currently shows a price of $460 plus shipping. I purchased mine from Tamraz on eBay for a little less than that but not much. I think it was something like $420

Here is a current listing on eBay from the seller

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-...item3c9afa1fb3

I recommend contacting them to verify the mfg before buying. It was Glasstek when I ordered mine a year ago but that doesn't mean it still is.

If I had to do it again, I would probably buy the new one from Harwood.

http://www.eharwood.com/catalog/prod...?productID=485

It's a bit more expensive though.

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

400 at the tire with that cam and heads/intake? I would doubt it but it could be close. I"ve seen similar 224/230 cams make 370's on AFR/miniram combos on stock L98 bottom ends. Burnout91 has made 387whp on 218/224 XFI cam HSR and AFR heads on stock bottom end. Those are about the best numbers i've seen from a 350 and a cam that small. Those just about match my HSR 383 I had. I put down 392 with a hot motor on a hot day so i'd expect 400's cool

The right cam could do it. I wouldnt go higher than 230 deg because it will want to rev over 6500 and thats not good on stock rods/bolts. 224-226 is about all the higher i'd go but give it some good lift and a tigher LSA, it should spin up to 6200 rpm and make great hp, just dont be disappointed if it doesnt hit 400whp with an auto.
If you keep your compression ratio at 10.8 with new heads, and have a decent bottom end, i'd shoot for something like a 230/236 .600", peak closer to 6400-6500 rpm and let it eat

stoning_volcom

well yea the lt1 conversion would do, all i am saying is if you take the lt1 and put it on there it WILL increase your overall horse power but the mini ram is AFTERMARKET so youll see a lil more not enough to cry bout lol but yea the lt1 would do just those holley sleaths and the other ones that are like the same the REQUIRE a aftermarket hood cowl. Or you can cut a hole in your hood? that is up to you i think you can get a converted lt1 for like 350? or something idk but let us no what you get and what kinda power you get when you are done cause lots of people ask this question

86White_T/A305

Bang for the buck Id have to say the HSR is the way to go for direct bolt on.From what Im seeing for numbers using the HSR with good heads and cam would make for a great all round performer and daily driver.I mocked up my block on my T/A using my poly mounts and stock throttle body,had the HSR milled down to fit under the hood even with the insulation.Its very close tight fit but it works none the less.
I totally understand you have a stb and would like to keep something there aswell.So do I and I plan on making some form of a brace once my build is done and having it powder coated.Just need to be creative making a solution.

Performance wise I loved the torque tpi gives off the line but I also hated how quick that torque curve fell on its face.The HSR will provide lots of torque still off the line and keep a very nice level torque band across the board..while increase hp.This means the car is easier to manage off the line..pull and keep pulling uptop as well for very little trade off on the bottom end.This also give you better mpg being more efficient.

Id say stick with the HSR if your going to do heads and cam,TPI will not be able to use all that potential..even fully ported and siamesed.They are great for the seat of the pants fast..but HSR can give you that and more if you match your parts right and tune it even that much more

ESB

thank you and, after all the help from guys on this board, I'm now in FULL agreement - but here's a new quandry - in fact I just posted a new thread about it - between the HSR and the converted LT1, which would you pick?

I can get an LT1 convert for somewhere around $600 to $700. What do you think about the difference between those two intakes for this combo?

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

HSR flows more so it has abit better potential overall but there are alot of 400whp LT1's out there with stock manifolds or mildly ported ones.

I dont like the LT1 conversion simply because its highly dependant on how well it was done. Distributor hole and spacer has to be of the right height and angle, the water ports need material welded on to have surface to seal, and the remote mount waterneck/thermostat housing can be a pain.

I converted my LT1 manifold and was about to do the swap but backed ou last minute and got HSR for a decent deal, 500 with rails/adjust. reg. Sold that LT1 and last i heard it was on a guys 383 overseas and still running strong so go figure, it worked anyway.

Done right the LT1 isnt a bad choice, i'd just open it up with some port work first and port match it to the heads you will use for best performance.

88BlackZ-51

iTrader: (2)

you could always find a used MR, or bit the bullet and buy a new one from TPIS. i bought one of there blem's and saved around $200 over the price of a new one.

ditch the stock intake, and dont look back.

danziger

If you do go that MR/LT1/HSR route, let me know if you want to sell the AS&M runners. Good luck with your combo!

ESB

Thanks - but I don't have the AS&M runners yet - mine are still the Hi-Flo Edlebrock runners. I was going to get the AS&M runners in hopes of salvaging my TPI and Edlebrock Performers but that doesn't look like it's going to happen since I'm now on the road towards an HSR and AFR heads - and most likely a new hood with my luck....

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

Does AS&M still sell their siamesed runners? That wouldnt be a bad option IF and only if you get the base ported to flow in the 270cfm region to match up with the heads and runner's capability.

ESB

PLEASE don't start with that - actually I looked into porting the base to 300cfm and it'll cost me $620 for just that and the AS&M runners are like $350 so I might as well get the HSR.

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

Ok just wanted to point that option out. HSR is the best bang for the buck I think.

ESB

I agree, but now I'm getting nervous about one day needing an EGR valve....it never ends does it

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

Miniram has a kit with EGR valve now but doesnt carry an EO/CARB number so it still isnt cali legal

Burnout91 was trying to adapt the miniram egr kit to the stealth ram.

Burnout91

Burnout91 was trying to adapt the miniram egr kit to the stealth ram.[/quote]

The Miniram EGR to HSR adaptation is up and running ( '-BO91' mod; wasn't that difficult, really), I just need to enable EGR in the chip.

Bill

ESB

How'd you do that??? Is it an asthetic thing or will it actually work?

Burnout91

It will be 100% functional as soon as EGR is re-enabled in the chip.

ESB

OH MY GOD! Forget it - I thought that you just bolted something on - what a HUGE PAIN!

Burnout91

It's not, but I sure as **** won't bother with the pain of explaning it again. Good luck.

Bill

ESB

I'm sorry - I didn't mean it like that. But it really sounds like something that'll take a lot of time and as I did, I'm sure that everyone else on here will also appreciate the info.

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

I didnt get to read the post by Burnout but i would have thought it was similar to the vette EGR mod. Pull exhaust from the header tube and route to EGR valve and then into the intake somewhere. Drill/tap a hole.

Burnout91

For those interested, see post #14 of thread "HSR Emission Question" for a quick write-up. The job took about 10 hours to perform, including R&R of the intake.

Bill

thegooseman

Not to mess with your head anymore but read this.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/afte...rying-set.html

With all the reading I have done on here, the miniram seems to be the way to go. Yes its expensive but if you look at how much runners and a baseplate cost together plus the extensive work and even more money it takes to make it flow, a couple hundred dollars more for a miniram doesnt sound that bad. Plus you can sell your old baseplate and runners to make up for it in the cost.

No its not legal in CA but neither is a HSR or LT1 intake so Im sure you know people that know people that could pass you off. My neighbor has one on his car and loves it. He can change the injectors in 25 min and even take off the whole intake in 30 min.

My neighbor also uses it as a weekend car. Doesnt race it, and doesnt complain about not having enough torque either. It was stated before that it doesnt have the same peak torque but you have more torque throughout the whole powerband and that counts more.

Plus my buddies bolt on LT1 is a beast and really fun to drive. I am personally leaning towards the Miniram, or an LS1 swap.

ESB

Not to mess with my head huh? As of Friday, I had decided that I was going to go with the LTR and had scrapped the whole HSR idea altogether - then I read that thread.... EVERYTIME I THINK I'M OUT, THEY PULL ME BACK INNN!!!