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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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1989 Silverado TPI no start

Well, I'm stumped. I have a 89 Silverado, older 350 crate motor. It was a TBI that was converted to carb, I never liked the performance since I bought it back years ago. This is my third TPI swap and I can't figure this one out, so get your thinking caps on.

What I have done:
  • 350 w/ 86 TPI unit - cold start is there but not hooked up (running a 89 bin tuned for 19# injectors, VATS disabled)
  • Walbro 190lph pump, 43# of pressure at the rail. Holds pressure.
  • Oil pressure switch/sensor is present and working
  • Tried two distributors - one is from my running Camaro (both will fire motor briefly with starting fluid)
  • Distributor is NOT 180* out
  • Harness came out of my running 89 Camaro, grounds are good on the back of the heads.
  • Injectors fired on the bench, tested at 16 ohms. Going to swap in another pair tonight and see what happens
  • Tried two different 165 ECM's, both ran the Camaro
  • I noided the injector circuits from inside the truck, both banks flash during crank


When I ohm my entire left and right banks on the Camaro, I'm getting ~3.5 ohms (SVO 30#) while the truck reads at 5.5 ohms each bank.

Any ideas?

Last edited by hoogiesngrinder; Jan 14, 2012 at 08:28 PM. Reason: 3.5 ohm, not 35.
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 08:46 PM
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Re: 1989 Silverado TPI no start

Also, there is a -.14v difference between the +12v at the injector than at the battery (12.13v @ injector). The injector swap is going to have to wait until tomorrow afternoon.

I hooked the other distributor up and grounded the base in a way that I could spin the shaft by hand. I turned the key to run, spun the distributor, and the fuel pump kicked on. I didn't hear the injectors click, but the same thing happened with the Camaro when I did the same setup. I assume it was because I didn't get the "RPM" high enough by hand.

Going to drain the tank as well, or setup a small reservoir tank with an inline pump to rule out bad gas or water present in the current tank.
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 09:01 PM
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Re: 1989 Silverado TPI no start

Originally Posted by hoogiesngrinder
Also, there is a -.14v difference between the +12v at the injector than at the battery (12.13v @ injector). The injector swap is going to have to wait until tomorrow afternoon.

I hooked the other distributor up and grounded the base in a way that I could spin the shaft by hand. I turned the key to run, spun the distributor, and the fuel pump kicked on. I didn't hear the injectors click, but the same thing happened with the Camaro when I did the same setup. I assume it was because I didn't get the "RPM" high enough by hand.

Going to drain the tank as well, or setup a small reservoir tank with an inline pump to rule out bad gas or water present in the current tank.
You should be able to get a fuel pulse simply by spinning the distributor by hand, even just barely turning will give a fuel pulse with my test setup.

Is the VATS disabled in the EPROM or a VATS signal present to the ECM????

Never the less sounds like an injector issue to me. A set of LT1 injectors and slightly grind down the 4 posts on the intake where the fuel rail sits and it should run very well.
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 04:15 AM
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Re: 1989 Silverado TPI no start

VATS is disabled. The injectors that came out of my 89 Camaro are going in around 3pm.

I will update again after work this afternoon.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 05:29 PM
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Re: 1989 Silverado TPI no start

THE BITCH IS ALIVE!!!!!!

Another injector swap, plumbed the oil pressure switch with a male/male adapter and a t fitting, yanked all the IP connector pins and went with the basics (will replace one by one), pumped the fuel out of the tank and added fresh gas, a HEALTHY shot of Carb/TB cleaner, and VIOLA!

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