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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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Is a 1988 T5 World Class?

Is a 1988 T5 a World Class or NonWC? I did a search, read alot, and have heard they are and they arn't. Someone please give me the correct answer.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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If it's out of one of these cars, yes, it's the 2nd design.
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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the one in my 88 formula looks like it's a non word class deally.. has the plug in the front.

at least that's what i remember being the difference externally the freezeplug style cup plug
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 09:34 PM
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Here's how you identify them. You can see the part in question with the trans in the car. Top pic is 1st design, bottom is 2nd design.
Attached Thumbnails Is a 1988 T5 World Class?-t-5-cg-bearings.jpg  
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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What year did they go to the WC?

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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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Ok, its a world class.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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so im guessing my 88 GTA has a WC in it?
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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Maybe.... look

It's like "do I have a posi?" We can all guess, look up codes, talk about what it should have, what year or motor option or whatever, etc.; but nothing is quite as certain as looking.
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 12:46 AM
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Actually, 1988 models were the first ones to get the WCT5. 1987 models have the regular T5.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 09:16 AM
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So then whats the diff- Looked at mine last night- just says Borg Warner on it
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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So then whats the diff- Looked at mine last night- just says Borg Warner on it
I have both the NWC and WC, both say Borg Warner on them. One way to know is to get the numbers off the tag attached to the rear tailshaft housing bolts and look it up on gearzone.net.

I've also noticed my NWC has cast in the side of the casing "Basic 1", and the WC says "Basic 1A"....

Pretty much, if you can verify it's the original trans, all '88 - 92's got the WC trans.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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Look at the pics.

You see that round thing, not the big rusty one with bolts in it at the top right of each pic, but the smaller one near the center of each? That's how you tell just by looking.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by RB83L69
Look at the pics.

You see that round thing, not the big rusty one with bolts in it at the top right of each pic, but the smaller one near the center of each? That's how you tell just by looking.
Yeah, right...I know what you mean and I'm not disagreeing with you....

If you've looked closely enough to recognize that difference, then you may want to look at another difference. the Basic1 or 1A on the side of the casing. You can see that also - just by looking.
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 01:06 AM
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Re: Is a 1988 T5 World Class?

Originally Posted by RB83L69
Here's how you identify them. You can see the part in question with the trans in the car. Top pic is 1st design, bottom is 2nd design.
what if you have the case in the bottom picture but with the plug from the top picture does that make a difference?
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Re: Is a 1988 T5 World Class?

There's no "plug" in those pics up there... only the clutch gear bearing retainer and the front countergear bearing ... ????

If it has the bearing that looks like an upside down freeze plug, with an absolutely flat shiny surface except with the edges not "sharp", then it's a 1st design unit. If the bearing is dull and sort of greenish-gray with the center dimpled in such that it looks like there's a "step" about 3/16" wide all the way around and the edge is "sharp", it's 2nd design. The two designs are so profoundly different because of the 2 styles of bearings used, that there is no possibility of the one type of bearing being used in the other model of transmission. No further "identification" is necessary.
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