Strange S60
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: L03 305 V-8 (for now ;) )
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Axle/Gears: stock... whatever that means :)
Strange S60
Anyone heard of or seen this? Its a Dana 60 rear for 82-02 F body cars...
http://www.strangeengineering.net/ne...earendAD1.html
Hmmm...
http://www.strangeengineering.net/ne...earendAD1.html
Hmmm...
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From: Central NJ
Car: 86 Trans Am
Engine: 408 stroker sbc
Transmission: TKO600
Axle/Gears: Moser full floater m9, 3:70 trutrac
standard 35 spline axles?!!! damn that thing must be heavy as hell and made to take a beating! looks neat
and its very similiarly priced to the 12 bolt and 9" ford rear that are available
and its very similiarly priced to the 12 bolt and 9" ford rear that are available
Dana 60's have been run for years. Thing is they are very heavy, and the internals are also very heavy therefore take more power to pull. Why carry the extra weight and loose hp turning extra weight when a 9" can be built to handle over 2500hp?
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS
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Im not an engineer or anything but it sounds good to me!
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From: Central NJ
Car: 86 Trans Am
Engine: 408 stroker sbc
Transmission: TKO600
Axle/Gears: Moser full floater m9, 3:70 trutrac
for the same price its probably stronger that the 9", and may be easyer to turn, but its still a bit heavyer
I fully agree that it's stonger than a 9", but since you can build a 9" to take WAY more power than you'll ever be putting into a factory chassis, why carry the extra weight? They are much heavier. - Unless Strange has done some decent voodoo with their aftermarket internals (possible, from such a company), typical 9" stuff eats less hp.
- FYI we've got a dana 60 under my old man's blower car - It's there for two reasons; came with the car when we got it, and you don't have to worry about it, even @ 9600 r's behind the blower motor....
- FYI we've got a dana 60 under my old man's blower car - It's there for two reasons; came with the car when we got it, and you don't have to worry about it, even @ 9600 r's behind the blower motor....
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Car: 1982 Trans Am, 2002 Formula Firehawk, 2000 Camaro SS Convert., 2002 Formula
I just bought and installed an s-60 in my 02 formula. It went in extremely easy and strange thought this design out well. I also did get a best on motor with this rear 1.5 sixty foot 11.6 @ 114 mph. I think its the best for the price and you have a lot to grow into. I saw no loss in track numbers.
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Strange S60 Dana Rear End
F-Body Dana Rear End Features:
25lbs heavier than a 12 bolt, 10lbs heavier than a 9"
Standard True-Track Diff w/Power-Lock
35 Spline Posi
All new casting using 3.0" OD Tubing, 1/4" Thick
Large ring gear than 12 bolt (by 0.875) and 9" (by 0.75)
Standard Dana Gear can handle 1200RWHP
Many Gear Options
LT1 build in mounts - LS1 requires backing plates to be sent in!
Driveshaft will need to be shortened 1.625" (don't do this a strange chromemoly isn't that expensive)
12 bolt 8% power loss
ford 9 has 10% power loss
s-60 has 5% power loss
Strange Engineering
Strange S60 Dana Rear End
F-Body Dana Rear End Features:
25lbs heavier than a 12 bolt, 10lbs heavier than a 9"
Standard True-Track Diff w/Power-Lock
35 Spline Posi
All new casting using 3.0" OD Tubing, 1/4" Thick
Large ring gear than 12 bolt (by 0.875) and 9" (by 0.75)
Standard Dana Gear can handle 1200RWHP
Many Gear Options
LT1 build in mounts - LS1 requires backing plates to be sent in!
Driveshaft will need to be shortened 1.625" (don't do this a strange chromemoly isn't that expensive)
12 bolt 8% power loss
ford 9 has 10% power loss
s-60 has 5% power loss
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From: Phoenix
Car: 1989 Pontiac trans-am
Engine: building a 400
Transmission: 700r4
anyone know what brakes to use with the s60 on a 89 year car. Strange says they come with 93-97 or 98-02 mounts witch its better? can these brakes be used without the ABS? anyone use Bear brakes on this rearend?
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From: Ohio
Car: 1982 Camaro, 1985 Z28
Engine: 383, 305
Transmission: TH350, T-5
Hey 1982kitt, how long did it take to get the rearend? As soon as my tax refund gets here about the first week of Feb I'm ordering mine. Also what was shippnig charges like? Lastly, what did you go with for the diff, I'm leaning towards upgrading to a locker.
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From: Buckhannon, WV
Car: 84' Monte
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700-r4
Axle/Gears: ferd 9" posi 3.50 gears
The reason the dana axle takes less power to turn is the pinion offset. The ford 9" has a high offset, meaning that the pinion hits the ring gear at high angle. The result is the pinion teath tend to drag across the face of the ring gear teeth. It makes for more strength but takes more power to turn. The dana gets it's strength from sheer size, so there is no need for the high pinion offset.
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Re: Strange S60
I hate to bring this back from the dead, I just want to find some clear info.
So which rear is the best exactly??? You have a few to choose from I suppose. I'dd love to see a list of order (best-worst) done in peoples opinions. I also know price comes into play in most people's budgets. But for now, just the best in quality and performance.
Kinda like
1 S60
2 Moser
3 Strange 12
4
5
6 Aussie 9 blot
7 10 bolt
Something like that. Again, opinions. And stock choices at the lower end of the list is good to know. If it becomes a good source of info, prices, reasons, etc, maybe make it a "sticky" so people can reference it. Is it a sticky already? I don't even know.
Anyway, thanks for the info guys. Cheers
So which rear is the best exactly??? You have a few to choose from I suppose. I'dd love to see a list of order (best-worst) done in peoples opinions. I also know price comes into play in most people's budgets. But for now, just the best in quality and performance.
Kinda like
1 S60
2 Moser
3 Strange 12
4
5
6 Aussie 9 blot
7 10 bolt
Something like that. Again, opinions. And stock choices at the lower end of the list is good to know. If it becomes a good source of info, prices, reasons, etc, maybe make it a "sticky" so people can reference it. Is it a sticky already? I don't even know.
Anyway, thanks for the info guys. Cheers
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From: Buckhannon, WV
Car: 84' Monte
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700-r4
Axle/Gears: ferd 9" posi 3.50 gears
Re: Strange S60
Basically when it comes to strength once you get something aftermarket the strength level is so high it really isn't a factor. Some people want to have an all chevy car and go with the 12 bolt, some once the ability to easily swap gears and go with a 9", then some people want a more efficent rear end and go with the S-60.
The ford 9" is going to be the cheapest way to get a stron axle in your vehicle and the fact that it doesn't have c-clips is an added bonus. You can put together a junk yard center section for cheap and just buy a premade housing ready to bolt in. Then you can upgrade the center section as funds allow. There are also a wide range of differentials available for the 9", there is also a lot of used nascar parts floating around.
The ford 9" is going to be the cheapest way to get a stron axle in your vehicle and the fact that it doesn't have c-clips is an added bonus. You can put together a junk yard center section for cheap and just buy a premade housing ready to bolt in. Then you can upgrade the center section as funds allow. There are also a wide range of differentials available for the 9", there is also a lot of used nascar parts floating around.
Re: Strange S60
too many variables to choose a best - worst scale. As monte said, once you go aftermarket, you're basically going to be plenty strong. One of the biggest things is whether or not you're looking for bolt-in. If you have some decent fabricating skills there are several rears that can be had/built for a reasonable $ and are very strong. The Ford 8.8 fall into this category.
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