Not spinning
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Car: 1989 Firebird Formula 350 TPI
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Not spinning
I have an 87 TA 5.0 4bl. It was passed down to me from my father. For the longest he swore the thing was dual posi and I didnt believe him. Reason being that evertime I burned rubber only one side spun and thats the passenger side. Still he swore it was posi and said they both always spun for him. Anyways, One day we were messing with the timing on the car and he asked that I held the brakes and peeled/burned out. To my astonishment they both started spinning. I thought the problem was fixed and it had to do with the cars timing. Now since then I notice that the driverside doesnt spin all the time only sometimes. Now we still didnt get the cars timing to be perfect, but it is better than before. Now my question is, Is it really related to the cars timing or was that a coincidence and there is something else wrong that would cause this? Any and all feedback would be appreciated.
Re: Not spinning
Positive traction(posi) in no way shape or form has anything to do with the timing.
Usually open diff(non-posi) cars will spin the passenger's side and not the driver's, since there is more traction at the driver's tire due to the engine's rotational torque.
That said, the only proper way to know if it's a posi or not is to pull the diff cover and check, and it would sound to me as though this has probably never been done to the car, therefore it is probably over due a fluid change anyhow.
Usually open diff(non-posi) cars will spin the passenger's side and not the driver's, since there is more traction at the driver's tire due to the engine's rotational torque.
That said, the only proper way to know if it's a posi or not is to pull the diff cover and check, and it would sound to me as though this has probably never been done to the car, therefore it is probably over due a fluid change anyhow.
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From: Huntsville Alabama
Car: 89 IROC convert.
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Re: Not spinning
Unless things have changed, you can jack both rear wheels off the ground and turn one wheel with the car in neutral. If the other wheel turns the same direction, its a posi, if it turns the opposite direction, its not.
Sounds like its not, though.
Sounds like its not, though.
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Car: 1989 Firebird Formula 350 TPI
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Re: Not spinning
Positive traction(posi) in no way shape or form has anything to do with the timing.
Usually open diff(non-posi) cars will spin the passenger's side and not the driver's, since there is more traction at the driver's tire due to the engine's rotational torque.
That said, the only proper way to know if it's a posi or not is to pull the diff cover and check, and it would sound to me as though this has probably never been done to the car, therefore it is probably over due a fluid change anyhow.
Usually open diff(non-posi) cars will spin the passenger's side and not the driver's, since there is more traction at the driver's tire due to the engine's rotational torque.
That said, the only proper way to know if it's a posi or not is to pull the diff cover and check, and it would sound to me as though this has probably never been done to the car, therefore it is probably over due a fluid change anyhow.
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Car: 86' Trans am
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Axle/Gears: 2.73 Posi
Re: Not spinning
ya my car does the same posi here and there it usually on new pavement...but it open carrier not posi
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From: lewisvilee NC
Car: 89 RS camaro
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Transmission: th400
Axle/Gears: 4.11
Re: Not spinning
the "diff" or differential (sp?) cover is the big semi round thing dead center between the axles. it has a couple (9-10 depending on rear you have) bolts running around the perimeter.
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From: Lawrence, KS
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
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Re: Not spinning
Though the diff cover in the following pic (the silver thing) is after market, you'll get the idea:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/atta...-89-guides.jpg
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Car: '92 RS
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Re: Not spinning
If you shock an open diff hard enough it will appear to be posi because there is NO traction at either wheel and both will spin.
What redlightrunner said is the quickest way to tell-----just jack it up and spin one wheel and watch the other.
What redlightrunner said is the quickest way to tell-----just jack it up and spin one wheel and watch the other.
Re: Not spinning
like I said, pull the cover and look. I'm sure it needs the fluid changed anyhow.
and yes, I mean differential cover. The one between the axle tubes, located on the housing/pumpkin.
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Re: Not spinning
the way i do it at the junkyard is put it in neutral and have some 1 hold the opposite side and see if there is strain...if theres not its open diff...
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Re: Not spinning
There's a good chance it's a worn stock posi, that would explain it locking sometimes, but not always.
Remember, a posi is ~$400. Yikes eh?
And yea, there are cheaper ways, mini-spool, lincoln locker, used, etc - but you really get what you pay for here.
Remember, a posi is ~$400. Yikes eh?
And yea, there are cheaper ways, mini-spool, lincoln locker, used, etc - but you really get what you pay for here.
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