alright heres the deal ive been doin some searching and i cant seem to get a straight answer

i have a 96 T5 tranny out of my 96 3.8l camaro (god bless is soul)
from wat ive read its a world class but im not positive

the question is can i make it work for my 91 305 firebird with a 700r4. i know i will at least need a bell housing plus all pedals and and everything else

all i really need to know is if it will work or if i need to invest in a t56 (wat i really want but out of my price range)


all information would be helpful thanx

zig

 

According to 5speeds.com the non world class t-5 was not put in ANY camaro after 1988ish they were only used in s-10's. You should be good to go with a '96 unit from a v-6 car. If that t-5 still has it's tag attached to the tail housing you can go to http://www.5speeds.com/t5/ and use the number of of it to get the full scoop on that unit.

 

I did a search for you too, and I find conflicting answers. The biggest issue would be if the 4th gen 3.8L T5 is tilted like the thirdgen one is. The 3.4L V6 T5 is different and will not work, its the same as the 2.8L/3.1L T5.

 

The 17* rotation is not in the trans housing. It's on the bolt pattern of the bellhousing. As long as you use the bell from a v8(which you have to) you will be fine. As the nwc t5 was not put in a 96 camaro regardless of motor. That link has some pics to use to I.D. with if you're still questioning which one you have. The countergear bearing is the fastest way to I.D.

 

thanks for the information

now for the next question
my camaro had an internal slave cylinder and as far as i know all the v8s had external slave cylinders
so the question is will this make a difference or will the new bell housing have a place to mount an external slave cylinder

 

Go figure i've put 2.8/3.1 T5's in about a half dozen thirdgens in the past, who knew they wouldnt go right in with a different clutch disc ?

The real trick here is that the 96' piece is a 3800, I dont know about the 95-97's but the one I have from a 00 car, used a hydraulic throwout bearing and the front of the case that bolts to the bellhousing is a different pattern than the earlier T5's, the 96' piece does have a 1 1/8" x 26 input shaft like a thirdgen V8, so if the case hadnt changed yet then you'll easily be able to bolt it right up using a standard V8 thirdgen clutch kit.

The 3.4 clutch kits I looked up on autozone and advance say it uses a 26 spline clutch also, so your main search is to find out what year they went to the hydraulic t/o bearing, and what year the trans to bellhousing pattern changed.

 

I thought the 3.8L bellhousing was a 90* V6 like the 90* V8's? That's why I said that about the rotation.

The V6 T5's have a different gear ratio that is weaker than the already weak V8 T5's.

 

i put a 350 in my 91 and the v6 t5 is workin great(other then the amount of torque the trans is geared for), the only thing is the v6 is 14spline and v8 is 26, but they make a clutch to do this, zoom has it its 100 dollars, o and you will have to cut about 5\8in off the end of the input shaft or it will not sit flush with your bell, any other ? just pm me

 

No, the 3800 has the same bellhousing flange as the 2.8/3.1

Yep the gear ratios definetly dont make it the ideal solution, however a cheap usable piece for getting you down the road, it works fine.

Thirdgen V6 T5's have the 1"x14 spline input
So far from what i've found it seems 4th gens all have the 1 1/8 x 26 just like the thirdgen V8, im just not sure if the bellhousing to trans flange changed for the 93's or if it didnt happen until tremec started making them (98?)