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Old Sep 26, 2001 | 10:55 PM
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TH350 vs 700R4 vs 2004R

We're having a debate on the thirdgen email list about these transmissions. I've always thought the 700R4 was an updated TH350, while the 2004R was a tranny built from scratch. They're saying the 700R4 was brand new, and the 200 came from the TH350. Who's right?


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Old Sep 27, 2001 | 12:06 AM
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The 2004R seems to have more in common with the 350 design.

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Old Sep 27, 2001 | 04:01 AM
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The 700 is based on the 350 but has some radical differences. The 200-4R is based on the 200 and is in fact a 200 with an O/D section added in front of it. This means that theoretically you could make a six speed out of it!
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Old Sep 27, 2001 | 08:22 PM
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There's already a way to make a six speed out of a 4L80E. Since the tranny is electronically controlled, someone has come up with a new valve body that gives the 2 extra gears using the OD. No reason why it couldn't be done with the 200R4
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Old Sep 27, 2001 | 10:29 PM
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If memory serves me right. The back set of planetaries are the same setup, but not interchangeble to a TH350, the front planetaries, the input drum, the sprag set and the od are the differences. The 700 uses the TV cable for all the shifting instead of just a kickdown cable like the 350.
The 700 is an evolution of the 350, but it has "timed"shifts, whereas a th 350 more or less "stacks" the shifts.

2004R is a metric trans from the 200 3spd. the only thing it really shares with the 700R is the lockup servo, and a similar torque converter.


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Old Sep 28, 2001 | 01:07 AM
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I must agree with Transfixleo. The 700-r4
must have come from a TH350 because you can swap the low/reverse roller clutches, the
low/reverse pistons look identical except for the slot for the parking pawl, and the
tail housings will bolt onto each other.
The 200 and the 200-4r both have one-piece
housings and share parts in the rear half.
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