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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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91 drum rear to 89 disk rear correct proportion valve

I have a 91 Firebird that I recently swapped out the old
drum, 2.73, neg. traction rear end for a rear end out of a 89 Firebird with
disks, 3.08, posi. traction 9 bolt rear

I believe they are 3.08's but could be 3.23 gears.

I am not completely sure if this rear came out of a 89 Firebird as this info was given to me from the guy I bought it from.

I just found out my rear brakes are barley working. I had the rear end up on jacks and when I started the engine and put the transmission into drive while holding down the brakes, the tires kept spinning slowly.

Do I need the correct 4 disk brake proportion valve? if so which one should I buy?

or could this be an e-brake cable adjustment issue?

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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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Re: 91 drum rear to 89 disk rear correct proportion valve

Funny thing is the e-brake seems to work perfectly. When you pull the e brake the mechanism on the caliper travels fully till it hits the stopper, but the rear still doesn't lock and I can spin the tire with my hand.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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Re: 91 drum rear to 89 disk rear correct proportion valve

Originally Posted by Napster134
I have a 91 Firebird that I recently swapped out the old drum, 2.73, neg. traction rear end for a rear end out of a 89 Firebird with disks, 3.08, posi. traction 9 bolt rear. I believe they are 3.08's but could be 3.23 gears.

I am not completely sure if this rear came out of a 89 Firebird as this info was given to me from the guy I bought it from.
First determine whether you have a 9- or 10-bolt (3.08 and 3.23's are 10-bolt gears).

Second determine whether you have iron Delco-Moraine calipers (82-88) or whether you have alum PBR calipers (89+).

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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 05:52 PM
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Re: 91 drum rear to 89 disk rear correct proportion valve

Both. Either find the correct prop valve or put an adjustable valve in the rear line. You may need e-brake components (lever etc.) from the donor series car. I'll soon be doing the same thing. There's another active thread about the same thing. Plus do some searches.
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 12:47 AM
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Re: 91 drum rear to 89 disk rear correct proportion valve

Originally Posted by JamesC
First determine whether you have a 9- or 10-bolt (3.08 and 3.23's are 10-bolt gears).

Second determine whether you have iron Delco-Moraine calipers (82-88) or whether you have alum PBR calipers (89+).

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I was hoping you would reply to this lol, Ive been searching around and noticed you know everything about these axles.

It is a 9 bolt borg warner but not sure what gears I have, when I spin the output yoke, the rotors spin about 3 and a quarter turns, could they be 3.23's

But not sure about the calipers though. Ill see if I can find out.
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 12:58 AM
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Re: 91 drum rear to 89 disk rear correct proportion valve

Originally Posted by Base91
Both. Either find the correct prop valve or put an adjustable valve in the rear line. You may need e-brake components (lever etc.) from the donor series car. I'll soon be doing the same thing. There's another active thread about the same thing. Plus do some searches.
I tried some searching but I dont have to much time, and skim through alot durring the day but Ill see if I can find that thread.

The e brake, I believe is workings like its supposed to. When I pull the e brake the mechanisms on the calipers hit the stopper and cannot go any farther, so I'm guessing they just dont have enough pressure so that the e brake works when engaged... maybe?
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