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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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Help "temporary" fix to rusted t-lines needed?

Hi all
I am on a zero spend budget and broke a rusted t-line when trying to remove the radiator connection

I have an new oil cooler with some hose i got when i bought the car years ago (an 85 Camaro 305 700R4)

What I want to do is cut both trans lines where they are not rusted to **** and somehow, with some "compression fitting??" attach the cut steel lines
(is this 3/16"???) to this cut end and having a barb or flare on the other to attach the hose/clamp

I've read threads and looked at numerous fittings but don't see such a fitting. I am not familiar with compression fittings or other options-
Pls help with what I can use for this - thank you
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 05:39 PM
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Re: Help "temporary" fix to rusted t-lines needed?

Why would you want to spend ALL THAT MONEY on some half-azzed HACKJOB?

How about, just DO IT RIGHT, which will actually cost FAR LESS?

Just go to the parts store and pick up a coupla 60" sticks of brake line. The size is 5/16" BTW, inverted flare fittings on both ends. TOTALLY RENEW that part of your car for prolly about half the cost of the alternate-ethnic-engineering-FAIL you're talking about hacking it up with. MAYBE as much as $15 but I kinda doubt even that much.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 08:35 AM
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Re: Help "temporary" fix to rusted t-lines needed?

OK I get your point-I don't have a bend tool/experience, a car lift, or tools to get off the trans fittings in the small space under the car or desire to crawl in and out from under the car in the rain/snow, making,measuring,remeasuring,tweaking the bends 100 times.

but I did find a fitting for this > 3/8 Inch NPT Hose Barb > 5/16 Inch Line > but it costs 15 ea, which is unacceptable, so I may do it right when I get my car lift
thanks anyway for a reply-noone else could
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 10:58 AM
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Re: Help "temporary" fix to rusted t-lines needed?

I'm not sure that I understand your response. Are you saying that you don't want to make the effort to fix your car the right way?
You just need a concrete slab, a floor jack and some jack stands. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've been under cars that needed repair in all kinds of bad weather. All of the tools that you need can can be borrowed or rented, someone always has a garage that you can use for the short time this repair would take, and once it's fixed, it's fixed. You don't have to worry about doing it again. Isn't having a repair that you don't have to worry about worth doing it right? Good luck with your repair.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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Re: Help "temporary" fix to rusted t-lines needed?

Tom,, maybe you can borrow 15-20 bucks and fix it properly because you don't want to pay ALOT more money later and be without your car while it's down.. I'm a girl and if I'm not under my hood I'm under the car fixing something,, right now I'm doing tranny lines because I noticed someone hacked my lines and attached rubber hose and too me "THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE" I've never done it before but I have enough confidence,,(some mechanical skills),,and motivation to do it... I just replaced my injectors which I've never done (quite a job) and am proud of myself for doing it,, my car runs great with new ones !!!

You can do those lines,, have some patience and confidence and you can fix lot's of things... These cars require attention and maintenance so you gotta educate yourself and tackle things when they arise......... Rusty lines of any kind are bad news and need to be replaced,, you'll have bigger problems if you don't......This is a great site and you can get guidance and knowledge to fix anything here,, hopefully it helps you !!!!!!
Take your old lines off and use them as a (copy) for the new ones and you'll know where to do the bending,, will be easier.. It's never a good idea to CUT lines!!!!! You'll be glad you fixed it the right way !!!!!!!!
Maybe you have a friend or two that can come by and help you out !!!!!!
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 12:13 PM
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Re: Help "temporary" fix to rusted t-lines needed?

Tom,, maybe you can borrow 15-20 bucks and fix it properly because you don't want to pay ALOT more money later and be without your car while it's down.. I'm a girl and if I'm not under my hood I'm under the car fixing something,, right now I'm doing tranny lines because I noticed someone hacked my lines and attached rubber hose and too me "THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE" I've never done it before but I have enough confidence,,(some mechanical skills),,and motivation to do it... I just replaced my injectors which I've never done (quite a job) and am proud of myself for doing it,, my car runs great with new ones !!!

You can do those lines,, have some patience and confidence and you can fix lot's of things... These cars require attention and maintenance so you gotta educate yourself and tackle things when they arise......... Rusty lines of any kind are bad news and need to be replaced,, you'll have bigger problems if you don't......This is a great site and you can get guidance and knowledge to fix anything here,, hopefully it helps you !!!!!!
Take your old lines off and use them as a (copy) for the new ones and you'll know where to do the bending,, will be easier.. It's never a good idea to CUT lines!!!!! You'll be glad you fixed it the right way !!!!!!!!
Maybe you have a friend or two that can come by and help you out !!!!!!
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 05:51 PM
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Re: Help "temporary" fix to rusted t-lines needed?

WoW
Whoes to say that a hose connection to a trans cooler is not right and that a compression fitting on a line is something to worry about

If you look under 99% of old car you will see the lines are rusted to **** where they are connected to the frame with steel brackets, not a penny band of rubber around it to keep the whole buches of lines they group and attach to the frame together. Driving any car (unknowingly) with these facts would be insane, as a brake in the brake lines, trans lines, fuel lines could occur at any time, with catostrophic consequesnces

Again, Whoes to say that a hose connection to a trans cooler is not right and that a compression fitting on a line is something to worry about, at least its fixed for now so I can move the car. You have no idea of the extent of other work I have to do on this car so toot somewhere else

p.s. I was working on a 58 pont star chief on a dirt floor with only the car jack when I was young, as that is all I had, - missy too
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 08:20 PM
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Re: Help "temporary" fix to rusted t-lines needed?

Tom,,, It's your car !!!!! fix it anyway you want !!! No need for the attitude !!!!!!
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 08:41 PM
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Re: Help "temporary" fix to rusted t-lines needed?

sweetm reread the responses again and ponder which 2 of the 3 principals had the attitude
good night-
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 06:21 AM
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Re: Help "temporary" fix to rusted t-lines needed?

You can "rent" all the tubing tools you need fro the parts stores, FOR FREE.

Quit making up excuses for why half-azzing something THAT SIMPLE AND EEEEEZY is a "better" idea than doing it right. You'll be MUCH happier in the long run; and will end up SPENDING LESS than what you "think" you're going to "save".

Too bad if telling you how to "do it right" translates to "the attitude". There's too much of that train of thought going around these days. Not something I personally care to participate in myself; I'd just as soon SPEND LESS while at the same time DOING IT RIGHT. And I advise others, who lack my experience, of the same thing. Those "savings" never seem to materialize quite like people hallucinate on the front end.
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 08:47 AM
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Re: Help "temporary" fix to rusted t-lines needed?

Last word-If you feel you need to reply to a post, reply 1st (#1) with the "answer" to the question asked-I doubt if you even remember the question asked. (It was a "fitting" question.)

An acceptable method listed on the instructions with the Hayden oil cooler (by-passing the radiator connection) is to attach the trans lines directly to the hoses to the cooler, via cutting the t-lines and using a "drift punch" or "flaring tool" to finish the cut ends, then hose clamp 1/4 " behind the "flare".

Maybe not the "best" or in your words "the "right" way", which I assume also includes attaching the new bare steel lines, using bare steel clamps to the bare steel frame so it will rust to **** over a period of years-just like the factory did it when they did it "right"

then #2 - put your 2 cents in at he end.

I have no doubt your experience is much greater than mine and I do appreciate your knowledgable comments, I've read alot of your posts, so thanks for helping us!

But pls consider answering the question 1st & the toot 2nd
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