700r4 no lockup
700r4 no lockup
hello,
I have an 86 trans am with a 350tpi setup and a 700r4 trans.
My torque converter never lock up.
If I turn the key. I have 12V on the A pin of the trans connector.
but if I try to send 12v on the A pin and ground on the B pin, no noise in the trans. I tried too to send 12v on the A pin and ground on the D pin, nothing too...
What do you think I should do to test...
thanks for your help
Marc
I have an 86 trans am with a 350tpi setup and a 700r4 trans.
My torque converter never lock up.
If I turn the key. I have 12V on the A pin of the trans connector.
but if I try to send 12v on the A pin and ground on the B pin, no noise in the trans. I tried too to send 12v on the A pin and ground on the D pin, nothing too...
What do you think I should do to test...
thanks for your help
Marc
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: Not in Kansas anymore
Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
Re: 700r4 no lockup
If you are not seeing 12V on the tan/ black with 12V in on A then it is a internal problem ,have to drop the trans pan to investigate further
Re: 700r4 no lockup
I suspect my solenoid... but my transmission just has 2000miles, it is a summitracing 700r4.
Is the click of the solenoid really audible as I put 12V on the A pin and ground on the B pin ?
I ordered an ALDL cable to be able to check if my ecm send the information.
thanks for your help
Marc
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,736
Likes: 14
From: Not in Kansas anymore
Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
Re: 700r4 no lockup
Ok, but how does it work.
There are 3 pins. A with 12V, B and D.
Which one send the information to the ECM for 3 or 4 gear.
Which one will have a ground for the solenoid ?
How can I test the solenoid (engine not running), due to the fact there is a pressure switch in the transmission ?
Thanks for your help
Marc
There are 3 pins. A with 12V, B and D.
Which one send the information to the ECM for 3 or 4 gear.
Which one will have a ground for the solenoid ?
How can I test the solenoid (engine not running), due to the fact there is a pressure switch in the transmission ?
Thanks for your help
Marc
Re: 700r4 no lockup
Hello,
I just checked, if I send 12V on the A pin (pink), I find nothing on the D pin ( tan /black), but I find 12V on the B pin (green).
I tried to send 12V on the A pin (pink) and ground on the B pin (green), maybe I had a small click once... not sure...
I tried to send 12V on the B pin (green) and ground on the A pin (pink)... I think it was a bad idea, I had a short circuit, my test cable didn't like !
After I retried to send 12V on A, and I still found 12V on B ! I retried to send 12V on A and grount B, and another short circuit...
I may have kill something !
thanks
Marc
I just checked, if I send 12V on the A pin (pink), I find nothing on the D pin ( tan /black), but I find 12V on the B pin (green).
I tried to send 12V on the A pin (pink) and ground on the B pin (green), maybe I had a small click once... not sure...
I tried to send 12V on the B pin (green) and ground on the A pin (pink)... I think it was a bad idea, I had a short circuit, my test cable didn't like !
After I retried to send 12V on A, and I still found 12V on B ! I retried to send 12V on A and grount B, and another short circuit...
I may have kill something !
thanks
Marc
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,736
Likes: 14
From: Not in Kansas anymore
Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
Re: 700r4 no lockup
I tried to send 12V on the B pin (green) and ground on the A pin (pink)... I think it was a bad idea, I had a short circuit, my test cable didn't like !
After I retried to send 12V on A, and I still found 12V on B ! I retried to send 12V on A and grount B, and another short circuit...
I may have kill something !
After I retried to send 12V on A, and I still found 12V on B ! I retried to send 12V on A and grount B, and another short circuit...
I may have kill something !
Reading a circuit diagram helps.
Only wires you are interested in are the pink 12V supply and the tan / blk to the ECM where it grounds that wire to lock the convertor
Typical GM TCC circuit shown on right below
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Re: 700r4 no lockup
Hello,
reading your diagram... there is something I don't understand.
My car is parked, the tcc output from the ecm is the tan / black, if this switch closes grounding the tan /black, it seems normal to have nothing on the tan /black if I send 12V on A.
I can imagine, the B pin (green), is my pressure switch, this is the one I find 12V on it as I send 12V on A.
thanks for your help
Marc
reading your diagram... there is something I don't understand.
My car is parked, the tcc output from the ecm is the tan / black, if this switch closes grounding the tan /black, it seems normal to have nothing on the tan /black if I send 12V on A.
I can imagine, the B pin (green), is my pressure switch, this is the one I find 12V on it as I send 12V on A.
thanks for your help
Marc
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,736
Likes: 14
From: Not in Kansas anymore
Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
Re: 700r4 no lockup
The tan / blk has to have voltage on it ( from going through the solenoid ) in order for the ECM to ground it and operate the lockup
Re: 700r4 no lockup
ok, maybe there is an inversion on my transmission. It is not the original transmission of my car. It is a summit transmission.
On the factory wiring of the car, I have 3 wires. A : pink, +12V, B : green, D : tan / black.
If I send 12V on A on the trans, I find 12V on B (which corresponds to the green wire on the factory wiring). Maybe the B on the trans should correspond to the tan / black ? maybe an inversion ?
maybe are there several wirings on the connector of the trans ? and I have to invers 2 cables to make it compatble to my car ?
do you have a schematic which shows were each wire goes on the trans ?
thanks
Marc
On the factory wiring of the car, I have 3 wires. A : pink, +12V, B : green, D : tan / black.
If I send 12V on A on the trans, I find 12V on B (which corresponds to the green wire on the factory wiring). Maybe the B on the trans should correspond to the tan / black ? maybe an inversion ?
maybe are there several wirings on the connector of the trans ? and I have to invers 2 cables to make it compatble to my car ?
do you have a schematic which shows were each wire goes on the trans ?
thanks
Marc
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