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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 01:18 PM
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700R4 oscillates between 3rd and 4th gear

Hi, Have a 1986 TA all stock,
This issue started just recently and quickly getting worse:,
Under light throttle at steady speed above 45Mph the transmission switches between 4th and 3rd gear for no reason.
If I lock the transmission in 3rd, all is working fine but in 4th it oscillates.
It does down shift no problem when required, and does shift smoothly into 4th.

at a higher speed (say 75Mph), it seems to stay in 4th just fine but will downshift to 3rd with a very minimal additional throttle.
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 03:33 PM
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Re: 700R4 oscillates between 3rd and 4th gear

Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) might be the problem. Unplug it from the side of the transmission and take the car for a drive. See what happens.
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 07:31 PM
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Re: 700R4 oscillates between 3rd and 4th gear

mine did that years ago. Try around town and whenever possible use third gear only. I did that for about a month and it corrected itself. Worth a try. Even use the gears manually for awhile. That would possbily help
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Old Jul 29, 2024 | 11:30 AM
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Re: 700R4 oscillates between 3rd and 4th gear

Originally Posted by brian p
Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) might be the problem. Unplug it from the side of the transmission and take the car for a drive. See what happens.
It is indeed the vacuum operated switch that controls the TCC.
Once I unplugged the wires that are going from the switch to the TTC the problem went away, now without the TTC lock, the motor spins about 200-300rpm higher in 4th gear.

My TA is a Canadian model, so no computer at all, everything is vacuum controlled (distributer, TTC, etc).

I must have a vacuum leak somewhere.
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Old Aug 7, 2024 | 04:46 AM
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Re: 700R4 oscillates between 3rd and 4th gear

Originally Posted by TwoStrokeDan
Hi, Have a 1986 TA all stock,
This issue started just recently and quickly getting worse:,
Under light throttle at steady speed above 45Mph the transmission switches between 4th and 3rd gear for no reason.
If I lock the transmission in 3rd, all is working fine but in 4th it oscillates.
It does down shift no problem when required, and does shift smoothly into 4th.
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at a higher speed (say 75Mph), it seems to stay in 4th just fine but will downshift to 3rd with a very minimal additional throttle.
How is everything going now?

Edit: Thanks for the update.

Last edited by RandalSloan; Aug 20, 2024 at 06:45 AM.
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Old Aug 7, 2024 | 07:04 AM
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Re: 700R4 oscillates between 3rd and 4th gear

The problem is not with the vacuum switch or the vacuum, the vacuum is holding well, and the switch is fine, I bypassed the switch and added a manual switch I operate while driving and the problem persists.
So it has to be something inside the transmission, either the solenoid or a switch.

For now I'm driving with the TCC disconnected.
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