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Old Jan 24, 2025 | 02:30 PM
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Car: 1982 Pontiac Firebird SE
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Torque converter lockup surging

Hey all, recently got my '82 SE running and driving again, but it's having a strange issue. At speeds above 50 mph or so, the torque converter isn't locking up (TH200c transmission, it does have a lockup) but instead is doing a strange surging action where the car will jolt forwards slightly at random intervals. Could this be a bad solenoid, low fluid, or a computer problem? The ECM is new, and I don't thing the lockup worked beforehand. Any ideas?
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Old Jan 25, 2025 | 09:15 AM
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Re: Torque converter lockup surging

I would say solenoid. Someone I know had a similar problem & turned out to the solenoid.
I am sure others will have a response as I do not know if ecm affect the lockup.
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Old Jan 25, 2025 | 12:42 PM
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Re: Torque converter lockup surging

Yep, the TCC is ECM controlled (provided it's not a "Canadian car")

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Old Jan 26, 2025 | 03:30 PM
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Re: Torque converter lockup surging

Could I get pointers to where the solenoid itself is located on the transmission? Might try replacing that along with fixing the fluid leak it has
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Old Jan 26, 2025 | 08:12 PM
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Re: Torque converter lockup surging

Inside it.

When you drop the pan you'll see some wires. Follow em. They'll start at a connector to the outside world, and end at ... a ... thing. Not hard. Just a car electrical system.
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Old Jan 27, 2025 | 02:40 AM
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Re: Torque converter lockup surging

Easy test: unplug tcc wiring. Does it stop? Y -it's the TCC. N - it's something else.

Usually the bad TCC solenoids lock after warming up and stay locked until a cooldown cycle, or the transmission goes into a gear where TCC cannot lock (1st usually.)

The TH200-C is more work to replace the TCC solenoid than the 700R4 or 200-4R, unfortunately.

If it seems to be TCC, you'll want to figure out what is creating the command. Monitoring a wire with a bulb that lights up maybe.
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