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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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First clutch job, now I need help...

OK, did my first clutch job. Yay. I've had the tranny up and down (WC T5) a billion times. Here's my problem -

I used the clutch alignment tool (new pilot bushing, new TO bearing, new clutch plate and pressure plate), bolted the pressure plate down, then removed the tool. Bushing and clutch all lined up, right?

Bolted up the bellhousing, bolted up the slave cylinder thing (that engages the clutch) then lined up the TO bearing. All's good so far.

Made two guide pins, place a floor jack under the T5, and jack it up. After a little wrestling, the tranny is all the way in, save for about 1.5" I've pulled it off, then on, a thousand times, with no go.

Is there a trick to this?
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 08:38 PM
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say that last part again, im not gettin ya.
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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I bolted the bellhousing to the engine, and placed two guide pins in there. I then jacked up the tranny, and got the transmission all the way on, save for about an inch to an inch and a half. Then, it just - stops. I can't get it any further in, no matter what. Am I missing something here?
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 11:46 PM
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Well that new pilot bushing can make it a bear sometimes to get the tranny to go that last little bit to bolt up. Try this.....


With the tranny down, make sure it's in a FORWARD gear..Now get it back up on the bellhousing. When you get to the point it won't go any farther, grab the tailshaft of the tranny and work it back and forth with your hand. This will move the input shaft around, and after playing with it enough it should go right in.


Think about it like this...

You used the clutch alignment tool to align all those small splines inside the clutch etc...right? So you've still got to align the splines on the tranny's input shaft to go into the splines you aligned with the clutch tool.

Whatever you do, don't force it. Although, if it STILL won't go, and it's REALLY close to being all the way in, tightening each bolt a bit will usually work it in...if it still won't budge, don't keep tightening the bolts...

HTH
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 12:04 AM
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Sorry, but I don't know and have never heard the term " save for about an inch" What are you trying to say?

Is the trans still out 1" to 1 1/2" from meeting with the bellhousing? Because you state that its all the way on?

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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by AFreaknGoodTme
Sorry, but I don't know and have never heard the term " save for about an inch" What are you trying to say?
It will go all the way in except for about one inch.
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by camaro89dude
It will go all the way in except for about one inch.
What he said.

I'll try the forward gear one, after work... lol, you guys got any other ideas?
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 12:47 AM
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Yeah, when I put mine in, we put the trans in gear and spun the input shaft until it went in. Kind of a pain. Your problem will be figuring out how to physically spin the trans though. It's hard to spin the output shaft with your fingers. In my case we had a driveshaft yoke that we slipped onto the output shaft and used it to spin the trans.
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by Doward
What he said.

I'll try the forward gear one, after work... lol, you guys got any other ideas?
Sorry, I though at first you were saying someting about the slave cylinder not liningup or something to this sort. Wiggle the tailshaft back and forth like everyone else has suggested, It'll pop right in- I personally just benchpress them into place and rotate the entire trans, this is hard with it resting on a jack.
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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1. have someone push in the clutch while your go for that last inch.
2. is your throw out bearing on right?
3. did you paint everything???


all 3 will help or make that last inch or so a bitch.

espically the paint, if you use thick high temp stuff. the bell housing has a hole in it that line up with the what ever bearing or front shaft housing and its a tight fit, too much paint on the bell and it dont like going in.

I had all 3 of those things above hang me up.
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Old Jan 7, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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Nah, I got it. Seems like a simple case of not pressing the pilot bearing ALL the way in. Just started some bolts, and went around, went right in. Now to do the driveshaft and torque arm, and fire her up!
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Old Jan 7, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by Doward
Nah, I got it. Seems like a simple case of not pressing the pilot bearing ALL the way in. Just started some bolts, and went around, went right in. Now to do the driveshaft and torque arm, and fire her up!
That is what I tought too but then after the first throw out bearing almost grinded through the clutch forks and I blew my slave cylinder, I made sure it just sliped all the way on without squeazing it together with the bolts.

It should go all the way, easy, I did mine myself too.


cross your fingers
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Old Jan 7, 2003 | 07:32 PM
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What I had to do my first time was get longer bolts, 2inch and put them in the 2 bottom holes(they are drive through, no rear cap. And I literally pulled the trans to the engine like that. Threaded the 2 bolts through, tightened untill the trans "popped" and went in that extra inch. Once tight tiogeather, I put in 2 mre bolts, took out the long bolts, and was all set.
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