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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 01:31 AM
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top speed of 92 3.1L w/ governor off

the governer kicks in at 115mph but i was wondering how far it'd go w/ the governer switched off
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 02:03 AM
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i guess i dont have one, my first speedo went to 110, then i swapped to white face guages and those goto 120, and ive had it all the way clocked past 120 so theres no sayin'.......
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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LOL, I think my governor may be set at 100 mph. After 95mph per hour, the needle on the speedo stops moving.
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 06:13 PM
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2.8 + T5 w/ 3.42s buried out @ 121mph. You should get at least that, tho if you still have stock intake, that'll kill you (I've got the TPI style intake)
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 08:32 PM
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ok, will someone inform me of the differance between the intake ok my 89 rs and the tpi intake, they look the same, infact i have one from a tpi car and mine and they look exactly the same, we are talking about the plastic thing with the MAF in it and all right?
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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ok... check it out.
back with my 2.8, somehow my govenor switched off... i cleared well over 120... i did 130. my speedo only clocks at 120
i know i hit this speed this becuz of the prelude next to me.

i have achieved this yet again with my 3.4 as well. so if i did it with both engines... u should be able too. i believe i could've done a bit more, but little space left... and i'm playing with fire as well.
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 11:40 PM
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does anyone know if all rs camaros had speed limiter? ive got a 91 rs 3.1 700r4. anyone know if it has a limiter on it? ill be 16 in a month so ill find out before too long lol. lots of long strait backroads where i live. im just happy right now cause its all one color finaly, a nice primer grey.

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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 06:24 AM
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Yes, it should have a limiter unless either the computer system has been screwed with, or it has a performance comp. chip in it.

Should cut out around the 110-115 mph area generally...right about where the speedometer ends, which is 110.

By the way....don't get yourself killed! I did a lot of stupid stuff when I was 16 (2 years ago) so I know man! Let's just say dad's 98 Cavalier + long straight roads = 95 mph and meeting a ditch at about 40. Damndest thing, me and my passenger werent hurt and nothing at all happened to the car, besides it having so many weeds wedged under it that it took me 10 minutes under the car in a friend's driveway to remove them all.
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 11:46 AM
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i had my car hit govenor once or twice......its at 115

judging by how much room was left at 115, i'd say these cars could prolly do 130 maybe 135 with the V6's in them
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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i had the needle burried past 140kms the it kicked in and i slowed right down to about 120kms
mind u this is all kms
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by Nixon1
Yes, it should have a limiter unless either the computer system has been screwed with, or it has a performance comp. chip in it.

Should cut out around the 110-115 mph area generally...right about where the speedometer ends, which is 110.

By the way....don't get yourself killed! I did a lot of stupid stuff when I was 16 (2 years ago) so I know man! Let's just say dad's 98 Cavalier + long straight roads = 95 mph and meeting a ditch at about 40. Damndest thing, me and my passenger werent hurt and nothing at all happened to the car, besides it having so many weeds wedged under it that it took me 10 minutes under the car in a friend's driveway to remove them all.


Yes, its been 5 years since I was 16, but I didn't get my car until I was 17. I do more stupid stuff with my car now because I know the limits of my car.

I only see how fast I can go on long straight aways that I have been on before. The rpms start to get to high for me before I hit 100mph so I back off. I also back off when I see another car ahead in the distance.

I know when to quit, but some younger kids don't. They may drive at over 100 mph constantly, where as I may only do it for a couple of seconds.

When you are young, you think nothing is going to happen to you because nothing is suppossed to happen because you are so young. I even think 80mph is too fast for me. I travel on the Interstate at 70 mph because I like to be safe. I only have one body and I would like to keep it.
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 06:42 PM
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I never hit that kinda speed except a few times in the Camaro...I hit 90-95 once in the GT 'trying it out' getting onto the interstate...my friend riding shotgun almost wet himself. We both couldn't believe how quick it hit 5000 rpms in 3rd on an auto.

I only speed on the interstate, and I do the speed of traffic in the fast lane..never more. I did MORE stupid stuff back then because I was overconfident and was hooked on the adrenaline you get from taking hard turns and ripping out 0-60's..
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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yeah i've had mine up to 115 plenty of times on the highway. (on the way home from college there's a 60 mi. stretch of road with a barrier between lanes and no emergency lane = no place for cops to hide) so i haul *** for that whole time. the reason i was askin bout the top speed w/o the governer is cause i was talkin to a guy and told him i thought my car could reach 135 if i turned the governer off and he said i was full of s***. i tried to explain that at 115mph the engine still had alot of power and that the governer was only there to protect the car cause it can't handle the higher speeds. but no matter what i said he didnt believe a v-6 could go over 120 so i was tryin to find some ppl who had done it. i've got aftermarket tires so they won't be limiting the speed at all, and i'm sure my engine has enough to pull at the very least 130mph.
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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I was cruising around last night thinking about taking it to 100 or so.... just beacause I havent' gotten it up that far yet... so I was running down the highway at 80 for a couple miles of straightaway, just looking for a moment to stomp on it and take it further... of course there's always traffic coming the other way when you want to do suff like this, and being cop paranoid I didn't push it, I went down to a .4 mile straightaway by my house, I was about halfway down that in 4th gear and at 85 MPH that two lane road zips by pretty quick, I saw a mail box rushing up on me and I chickened out... I wish we had a better place to test things out... it's a damn shame, because from 85-100 is a very short period, my engine pulls pretty damn hard from 3-7k.

More on topic, I've heard that most 3.1's can hit 125-130 MPH with stock gears and governer removed.

Edit: Most cars are governed based on the tires that come on it stock, my car is governed at 117 because it came with T rated tires I believe... I have Z rated tires now, but don't know if there is a governer still there or not...

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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 01:17 PM
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Raced a car up in NY once... a turbo VW jetta. Man I never saw a car pull like that! Anyway, when we hit traffic, he waved his CB mike at me... turned out to be a cool guy, he thought he beat a v8- "never happened before"- so I told him it was just a v6, so he wouldn't get too big of a head. Asked him how fast we were going when we were lined up; he told me 137. (yikes) Back then I had the P255/70r15 tires, giving me an effective gear ratio of 3.17ish. I also had the ADS superchip (don't know if that killed the limiter, or if it was just my thrown-off speedometer), and I had installed the B&M 4-3 kickdown kit (allowing near-WOT blasts in 4th gear). I highly recommend that 4-3 kickdown kit, by the way. It turns 4th into a useable gear. In fact if you're doing 55-up on the highway, you HAVE to downshift to get into third. The car won't kick down into 3rd on it's own.
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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I have had mine burried into the red i was around 6500 RPM and my speedo needle was burried way past 110.
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 07:41 PM
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Beat this...I've got Cooper Cobra ZHP 01's all the way around my car now and the backs are 245 50 16...they're W-rated...168 mph.

As if the 4.10 will ever in a million years let me see that kinda speed! Wonder what my top speed is in Overdrive. In Drive it's around 95 before it pushes pretty deep yellow.
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by FAST RS
I have had mine burried into the red i was around 6500 RPM and my speedo needle was burried way past 110.
Automatic, or stick? And is this a totally stock car?
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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Car: 1991 CAMARO 1968 FIREBIRD
Engine: CAMARO 3.1L FIREBIRD 455
Transmission: CAMARO 700R4 FIREBIRD TH-400
Auto and no its not stock here are my mods

MSD 6al and MSD GM Coil
FastChip stage 2
Underdrive pullys
Fairly new tranny
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TB bypass
flowmaster catback and a highflow cat
There is something else but i cant think of it right now had 2 hours sleep.

My car is well taken care of KED 85 can vouch for that.

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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 10:20 AM
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I bet the 6AL really helps at steady high rpms like that. I assume you did that run with the rev module out?

You've got a nice mod list man! That's basically EXACTLY what I would've done had I had the money...except I went with the Dynomax catback instead. All the cheap stuff first! Except the tranny..
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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My car 100% as-factory delivered, would hit the speed limiter at 120. I have done it several times in the past. DON'T try this at home! I will never do that kind of speed on public roads again. At 18 (the age when I got the car)I had a good case of the Superman Syndrome. In other words, I thought I was bulletproof, and that nothing would ever happen to me. I was lucky that it didn't.

Oh, BTW, my car is a 1992 3.1 liter Firebird with an automatic. Car came with some crappy tires, though. They were 215-65-15 BF Goodrich TA tires of some kind. They didn't last me but about 25K miles, and it was not from abuse! They were all evenly worn... out!

I have read that some early 4th Gen Z28s had 2.73 gears instead of 3.42s, and they also had lower rated tires and a speed limiter set at 108 MPH. You could get your dealer to change the computer and gears out, provided you put speed rated tires on it. That was all just for CAFE compliance, that they made any of them like that in the first place.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by Nixon1
I assume you did that run with the rev module out?

You've got a nice mod list man!
I have the rev limiter set to 7000 i just put the highest chip in i got. here is my price list the parts werent toomuch

Pullys 50 bucks
Fast chip stage 2 40 bucks from 3.1Firebird
150.00 for the 6al i shoulda saved 40 bucks and gone with the 6 A
the exhaust was 300.00 installed
If only i could list the stuff about my firebirds engine
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Actually it's the other way around...the 6A is cheaper, the 6AL is the same thing as the 6A but it has the rev limiter, hence the 'L' for limiter. Man, you made out on that fast chip! $40...talk about a deal. And....PM me if you care to spout out your engine details...I'd love to hear!

By the way....doesn't the factory tach END at 7,000 rpms? You must have some serious engine work if you see those kinda rpms fairly regularly!
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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This is for you, Pontiacguy1... These rear tires were put on by me..brand new..BFG Radial T/A's, 235 60 15's. Mileage put on them by removal time: Less than 10,000

Yeah...I was a little pedal happy with them....
Attached Thumbnails top speed of 92 3.1L w/ governor off-racingslick1.jpg  
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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Not saying I don't doubt anyone here, but my 2.8 topped out at a tad under 4000 rpms in 5th = 120mph.

Check for yourself - 26" tire (215/65/15) + .73 5th gear + 3.42 rear all @ 4000 rpm.

Now, the automatic came with 3.23s vs my 3.42s. 3.23 rear * .7 (4th gear) @ 6500 rpm = 222mph. Hmm... that's odd... oh wait! Floored, the 700r4 will NOT go to 4th gear (unless you have the 3-4 kickdown valve mod) so 6500rpm in 3rd gear would yield 155mph.

155 mph in a V6. Not gonna happen, man, sorry. maybe 6500 rpm in 2nd gear, but no way in hell as you said in 3rd or 4th.

Bone stock 3.1 to 120mph? Hell, if a 2.8 can do it, I'm sure a 3.1 can, with your increased torque!
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 04:10 AM
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See thats why i dread to post when it comes to that every time i do no one belives me its not like wow im at 6500 rpm it takes a while like 10 miles flored and it wouldnt be 155 you have to take into consideration the wind restince and all that stuff do ill say maybe 145 tops
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 07:54 AM
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Hey Nixon, nice tires! I have had other BFGoodrich tires since then on both my car and on other vehicles, and they did pretty well. The ones that came on my car from the factory were really crappy, though.
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by FAST RS
See thats why i dread to post when it comes to that every time i do no one belives me its not like wow im at 6500 rpm it takes a while like 10 miles flored and it wouldnt be 155 you have to take into consideration the wind restince and all that stuff do ill say maybe 145 tops
Actually, just take a buddy out with a camcorder, and lets see it - tach + speedo, then we'll know, right?

Even taking into consideration wind resistance, rolling resistance, etc, etc, you have to realize that at 6500 rpm, you are so far out of your powerband, its not even funny... or have you done a cam swap and head work?

Maybe you're running 3.73 gears or something, and don't realize it?
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Nixon1
This is for you, Pontiacguy1... These rear tires were put on by me..brand new..BFG Radial T/A's, 235 60 15's. Mileage put on them by removal time: Less than 10,000

Yeah...I was a little pedal happy with them....
Jeez man! I thought I was bad... heh - you know, grab a set of 16" 3rd gen rims, and get some real meat under there - some 245/50s or bigger! Believe me, 255/50/16 Eagle ZRs in the back will suddenly introduce you to the world of wheelhop. Gotta get that Zexel.... 2 more weeks, after I get my new cam/lifters on order.
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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Car: 1991 CAMARO 1968 FIREBIRD
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Transmission: CAMARO 700R4 FIREBIRD TH-400
Stock cam only thing was a port and polish a while back my car has 3.23 gears
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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Doward, well the Camaro has been sold..but my new car is a 302 HO with minor to moderate modification, including a 4.10 POSI rear...it's running 16 in. Pony rims and the back tires are Cooper Cobra ZHP 01 245 50 16's, brand new. They hook so mean but at 20 mph if I lay the pedal down the tires spin and jump. Damn suspension is so stiff and the car binds like a MOTHER when it turns. Ah well. Mustangs never were meant to handle. Now that I think about it, they weren't meant to do anything particularly well. Oh well. It'll still outrun most anything it comes across locally.
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