Yeah seriously... Some moron that goes to my school told me he saw my car at the drag strip a few weeks ago..my old Camaro... Told me he talked to the guy....blah blah blah, he said the guy rebuilt the motor, added a "supercharger he got from Summit", and nitrous and is running 10's on the same motor.

I got a good laugh out of it. He was dead serious.

a boy well i guess he is in his early 20s has an 88 Sport COupe running low 14s with a 2.8 Automatic and im not lying just ask the guys on the Mid atlantic board that go to the track on friday nights they know who im talking about [/B][/QUOTE]

Somebody needs to call GM and tell them that they made a accident.

I'll beat a stock 305 any day of the week- but in the scheme of things- who really give a sh*t- we are both slow and not worth drag racing or bragging about it. These cars are not dragstirs guys- they are built for handling.

Wow....nice car... Never seen a paint job like that before. Lowering kit and 16" rims?? Or are they 15..? You know with how low the car is, it actually makes the rims look bigger. I thought they were 18's until I noticed that they were chromed factory-styles.

Mr Nixon, You haven't seen the AFrikinGoodTime mobile? I posted pics about a month ago- factory showroom paint scheme, and yes they are '87 Iroc 16" rims that I chromed.
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=169971

No I haven't dude... Woah..that's an 87 RS?? Damn dude...that's gotta be worth some serious money.... Never seen a factory paintjob like that...
SWEET!!!!!

You mean TBI, right?

I've never ran across a 2.8 or 3.1 f-body that handed it to me. Honestly never...then again I was hitting 15.95/16.1's @88mph in the 1/4 mile when I was stock besides some advanced timing and an open air element.

Keoki_Firebird89, what part of miami are you from ? Ive got a bone stock 91 firebird L03.Tell me where you hangout and Ill race.

Couldn't tell you, I do know that I can hang with mostly anything that isn't an Iroc. I have said before that this car has ran an unofficial 15.8 then 15.9 back to back. I would never take this thing to a drag strip- I have a reputation to protect- it would be embrassing as all h... . I would only take a car 11's or better to a drag track otherwise its boring.

Mines not an Iroc.. Wanna race...?:nono:

Sure do.... I made the statement "stock 305's" You want to bring out the big guns with something under the hood then so will I. Lets keep the the subject of V6's verses stock 305's:nono: :sillylol: You obviously have no idea who I am and what I have in my shop.

Edit: By the way- I will arrogantly state with fact that my little "2.8 V6" will clean your *** on an autoX course any day of the week. Before you decide to debate this, you'd better check again what your screwing with under this car suspension/drivetrain setup wise. Laws of physics prevents your nose heavy V8 from handling the way my V6 does-Hense the whole reason why I bought and built one to handle, I could have bought a V8 fbody anytime I want- don't want one.

IROC name was dropped, so mine was only left with Z28.

I honestly have no clue why people fear cars with IROC on them. They're no faster than a TA or Z28.

Because IROC is written in large and plain lettering on the doors, blatantly letting everyone know what you're packing. The later Z28's, they didn't have that...just the small badges.,,,,

damn, hit a nerve I think.. It was a joke dude.. You said anything short of an I-roc and mines not an iroc.. see the joke there.. gesss... And if you really wanna race my 1969 valiant with a blown 400.. sure... or my procharged and stage 2 headed 99 ws6..:rockon:

the big bold IROC on the doors gives alot away

just like a Black regal being a Grand National when it could be a gold t-type packing the same punch

you want a v-6 with punch get some of a 3.8 liter turbo 2 door family ride

I don't believe you guys. A v6 that can beat a 305 TBI. I don't know...sounds fishy to me. My friend's 305 is stock but it has a lot of pull when you punch it. Way more pull than the v6.

Akshay
89 rs v6 t-5

Something is fishy....my car is far from stock and my suspension and drivetrain put ever ounce of power I have to the pavement. Other than going to a ford 9" rear end, my drivetrain can not be beefed up any stronger or better than it is- trans is a full race built Darrel Young 700r4(Not the stock trans that was modified- it was custom blueprinted and built from ground up).

I will boastlully and arrogantly state that I very possibly have the best handling "street" (meaning fully equipped- no weight reduction) Third gen f-body in the world. I pull 1.07 g's in this car on street tires!This car is setup to perfection and my father-in -law in his C5 2000 Vette with magnesium race wheels spun on a cloverleaf onramp trying to hang with me- he didn't have a chance

1.07 G's? Freakin a... That's right up there with brand new vettes.... For a car of this weight and size, that's amazing..

But Ak....gotta keep in mind that the 305 TBI's ARE power deficient...so even though they have more power than the V6, it's still not a lot. Second, they are heavier obviously. Third, their rear ends, because they're V8 cars, are geared much taller. And 305 TBI's have very low-end powerbands. They are monsters down low, which is what you feel when you hit the gas...that's why they seem so powerful...but up top, they've got nothing. Flaw of design..they don't flow well. They'll haul nuts off the line but get passed in the upper revs. Just like my 3.1 did. I hauled *** off the line and always beat a friend of mine in a Twin Cam Saturn....but once I got OUT of my powerband (3000-5000 rpms), he got INTO his (4500-6000 or so)....and passed me. Thank *** I got that exhaust system so I could stop saying "Yes, I got beat by a Saturn".

my friends saturn before he wrecked it was really quick, we got it to like 130 or so, i have no problem sayin that thing could beat my v6 camaro, he had some import mods to get it like 150 hp

Well the sad part is, my Camaro with a K&N replacement filter and only repairs and a throttle body cleaning would get beat by his stock Saturn...I dont even think he had a ***** conical at the time. Stock intake, paper filter..nothing done at all. Now that was sad. Twin Cam bastard....

what kind of saturn is it my buddies sl1 took us like 8mins to get to 100mph we tried it for ****ss and giggles

My 305 TPI is nearly stock. And automatic. I'll race any third gen V6 that is not a TTA.

Not to say that a heavilty modded V6 couldn't beat me. I'm sure that one could. You sink enough money into any car and it's possible.

However stock for stock, I'll take on any third gen V6.

BTW DreamState21x that is one fine thirdgen. Very nice.

Yeah right, when the saturn has a speed limiter like the camaro at 110.

then buy a saturn if they are so great! its a little harder to impress the ladys with some econo box plastick piece of crap.

Do the v6 camaros have a speed limiter set at 110. I have had my v6 bird to about 115-118 before.

Plenty of pedal left, not enough guts.

Yes, they have a speed limiter... So either you have a performance chip in or your limiter has been defeated some other way.

Nixon1 does have a point. Those twin-cam cars don't run outta breath at high rpm. My car did this too...so I took action. Got a tune up first (bosch +4 plat. plugs, o2 sensor, new air/fuel filters, flushed & changed oil/diff/tran/motor oil fluid, egr, pcv, etc.)

Added some goodies (posi., K&N filters, Accel coil/cap/rotors, MSD 8.5 wires, exhaust, catco cat. 180* thermostat, electric single fan, etc.) Manifolds, suspension, computer, rims and pulleys were stock though. Previous owner had valve job done to it and replaced engine's rear main seal.

The car was considerably quicker and faster...it pulled from 0 to 3000, Ran outta breath between 3000-3500 rpm, not sure why , then again pulled at 3500rpm to I think ~5000rpm.

My car used to consume motor oil (no leaks) and the oil would get very dirty at 3000 miles. I used Rislone oil additive and now it doesn't eat oil, engine runs quieter, and is clean. But I didn't drive hard while using Rislone because I heard that oil some additives turned into solids when temps reach 600* F

Akshay

and probably sounds better too

But 3500-3750 is the sweet spot on a 60 degree when you look at the curves from a dyno.

Not sure what had happened. But it pulls way harder than before. Doesn't bother me anymore because the needle flies through 3000-3500 rpm.

Akshay

i once raced a 92 z28 305 tbi, we were neck and neck, he was suprised that i stayed with him though!!

No such thing. There's an RS though! Unless you mean the 305 TPI, in which case, he's a bad driver or his car was running like crap!

Engine choice was always yours.

I would think that all things being equal a 305TBI could whip the snot out of a V-6 car. Unless there was a difference in gearing and Transmission that shifted favor the other way.

Ryan...where does that statement apply to that? It says the Z-28 came with either the tuned port 5.0 or the tuned port 5.7. It makes no mention of it being optioned with the TBI 5.0. I'm sure if you really made a deal of it, you could have them put the TBI version in instead...but...who in the hell would do that??

After 1991 you couldn't get TBI so I messed up.

They eliminated TBI for the 92 model year? Wonder why they did that instead of just waiting the extra year for the next generation...

Woops no after 1990 the TBI was gone, the Z28 came back in 1991 so... I guess thats it. But what's funny is the 1992 owners manual shows the TBI

i coulda swore it was a 92 z28, but this person does dog the heck out of his stuff..so he coulda blew the tpi and replaced with a older tbi. not quite sure. or unless he didnt know the year..he did have the new interior so at least a 90!!

I think you saw a 90, I doubt he would do a rewire for a lesser hp tbi

personally i think its possibal any day of the week...depending on what shape the car is in...also why do people forget that a v6 produces power like a v8...maby if some of the big headed v8 guys get there head out of there *** and look on the v6 bord they can see what types of mods are going down...the last thread i read about was on the street racing bord... just to let ya know i agree with tomp in every aspect that he said on the opionion.... oooo i got a v8 um...so do millions and millions of people...did you know that they made enough 350 to go to the moon and back 4 /1/2 times? interesting...never the less im bilding a 350 becouse i want more power than i can handle. and i just love a big money pit(3500$ and counting) im getting sick of people on this bord talking **** to v6s all the time..
not getting any of the facts right either! there is more than one reason that most people choose v6's... ask that mother****er what his gas miliagle is a 150$ a gas... just something for the v8 assis to suck on!

No you didn't.

91/92 Z28's were ONLY TPI.

And if you DID race a TPI and you hung, then there was something SERIOUSLY wrong with his car. I ran consistent 15.2's with my semi-stock (exhaust) 130K Z28 and bad plugs....with a 2.73 rear.

sigh




TBI injection was available on the 305 in f-bodys from 1988-1992

1988-1989 TBI was the standard V8 for camaro SC's and also (believe it or not) the IROC-Z

in 1990 the LO3 (TBI 305) was no longer available in the IROC-Z, its base engine became the 305 TPI (LB9)
thus TBI was only available on the RS

1991-1992 the Z28 again had the 305 TPI (LB9)
as its base engine
the RS was available with the 305 TBI for these two years

Not hating on the V6's, but here's the facts.

The V6's are slow. Modern day 4 cylinders will eat their *** any day of the week.

The V8's can get the same if not better gas mileage. Mine gets 28MPG Highway. My V6 touched 26 once.

While the V6's are decent little engines, there is a complete shortage of aftermarket parts.

Also due to the fact that the V6 is a 60' engine, it makes it extremely costly and difficult to even think about transplanting a bigger engine in. At least the 305TBI guys have almost a direct 350 bolt in.

good for you billy, finally got a 305 TPI

and your a mod? wow that realy suprised me with that answer...were still on the subject of the tbi 305 not the 350!

28mpg and running in the low 15s...um that awsome why did you sell that car..

yep that true no aftermarket parts...but that's what hotrodding is all about...

305 direct swap...well yea its easer than the v6 to swap but sill some modding that has to be done with the fuel system and the computer..distruber and other stuff..(in other words i did not search on it yet so i only have a small idea)

not your ave 3rd gen is in good condidion ...some of the v6 are better becouse they did not have the "v8" so people didnt dog the hell out of um...so yea i can see the exceptional v6 beating a doged "but machanicaly good" 305 tbi! sorry man i have to dissagree..

have you seen a good 2.8 car..that's one v6 that can take most v8 tbi on the bord in tgo..

o yea what's your point on the moder day 4 cyl beating a v6 3rd gen? dont forget that thell kick *** on a v8 too..srt-4..ser...vtech(new civic) prob tost most tbi 305 in here..

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Yeah but is the 4 cyl pulling a long 4000 lb camaro!!! LOL

4000 lbs wow how meny fat people do you have riding with you when you get your car wieghted? dont you mean around 3300?

Well before the body shop took my door tag off it said something above 3800, TO BE SURE i'll get out my owners manual and look.