realy um....think not! but let me check my sources!

 

heres a post:
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...=weight+camaro

 

2950 without me, and 1/2 tank. That before the egr/smog/cat removal, as well!

 

Are you retarded or just ignorant?

First off, where did I say anything about a 350 other than the TBI guys have almost a direct swap?

Secondly...YES they do have almost a direct swap. If they WANTED to, all they'd need is a 350 block w/ rotating assembly. They can use ALL the accessories from the 305TBI, the fuel system, the heads, the computer (although it could use a little retuning), EVERYTHING.

Who said I sold the car that gets 28MPG and runs low 15's? It's sitting in my back yard right now. I did sell my V6, not because I didn't like it, but because I don't need or can afford 2 cars right now.

For the record, my V6 DID beat a V8TBI although his fuel pump went out 2 days later. The only other TBI I had the chance to race waxed my @$$.

A Good 2.8's car is suspension tuned for road racing, not drag racing.

Yes I agree with the 4 cylinder toasting the TBI cars, hell, I know 4 cylinders that will toast ANY stock thirdgen. The point is, people buy these V6's and then instantly want to make them fast. BAD CHOICE. With the almost complete lack of aftermarket parts, it's just not plausible for most people on this board. When you have people asking where their spare tire is, then they probably don' thave the capability to completely fabricate their own turbo or SC setup, let alone even do any minor work like a tune-up. I'm not hating on V6's or thirdgen's at all. The point is these cars are slow (mine included) unti you MAKE them fast and the V6's are not a good platform to start on building unless you're planning on scrapping the entire drivetrain and wiring.


BTW, My V8 weighs 3760 full tank, me in it (211lbs).

 

That's what I love most about the V6... so damn light - and then you figure the thirdgens are already some of the lightest of the fbodies... it's nice.

Power to weight, baby! :lala:

 

My V6 weighed 3600lbs w/ me in it (again 211 and about a 1/4 tank of gas.

 

umm i juss it depends who ya ask!

i must have gotin that confused!


um thats depending on year! for instance there are little thing like the starter and dipstick..that may cause some problems!

what are the stats on that car? is that the same one that got beat by the v6? if so what did your v6 run in the 1/4?

well at least i agree on one thing you said!

ok there for 3760-211=3549 then multiply 13(#of gals tanks hods)*7(lbs per gal) and you get 91
3549-91 3458 yep closer to what i said!

 

the owner of the car is a teen...so am i, his daddy might have downsized it for his own good, maybe!!

 

People people people. Lets not put each other down, or put down TBI and v6 Camaros. These engines are very worthy performers in their own right.

Whether you have a Camaro v4, v6, or v8, lets do what we can to help ourselves and our fellow f-body friends to find ways to increase power. We need each other!!!

Hey, if the 2.0L imports can pump out 280hp (turbo'ed in Japan for example), then we should find some ways to combat this.

Now i'm thinking...get performer cams, have head work done, then pop in a custom blower...and WAM BAM THANK-YOU MAM...your done.

Akshay
1989 RS T-5

 

Ok, let's get this straight.

THe V8 I have now is in my sig. Before LCA's, and SFC's, it ran consistent 15.2's. It's a 91 Z28 305 TPI.

I've never owned a TBI F-body

My V6 ran 16.902 w/ 200K on it. Only mods=STB, Dynomax catback.



Also, the gas tank holds 15.5 gallons, not 13.

 

Akshay...v4 Camaros huh?

 

wow, guys, wow. i have a 305 in my camaro and boy is it slow, but i also have a v6 camaro and it's slow to. Face it, there both slow. There not the slowest cars out there, but there definatly not the fastest!! ohhh, and to whom ever said that trucks were slow, wow, dude. My parents new truck beat me best friends 300zx twin turbo! Both my Dad and my friend know how to drive. the truck has a 390 with a super charger, and the 300zx, well is twin turbo. truck ate it alive. trucks are fast, Most of the new trucks, with big motors would beat almost any of the 305s or v-6s camaros. (this was only from stop light to stop light, in the long run the 300zx would rape it)

 

305 TBI stock is about .5 to .7 tenths faster than
3.1L stock. That's a fact!

But comparing the same transmission , auto to auto.

 

I beat down a 1975 Corvette Stingray 350 a few summers ago... Friend of mine owns it. Brand new short block, too... All bark and no bite. Federal emissions killed automobiles in the mid 70's...

 

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From 1985-1989 305 TBI was rated at 240 ft. lbs.
same a carbed 305, only the TBI had like 10 more HP.

From 1990-1992 305 TBI went up to 255 ft. lbs.
still ain't anything crazy, but more none the less.

Also, the HP went up from 170 to 175 in 1990-1992.


I may be off on the years a bit, but still true.

 

I eat them for lunch

Hell, my LHS has even taken out 2 LO3's :sillylol:

 

Really?? Funny thing...whtever engine you have in your car, you tend to know the power output, I own an L03. Ergo, I know.

You do not know what you are talking about and are wrong on several points. First of all there was no LO3 in an F-body until 88.

They were all rated at 170hp and 255lbs-ft of torque. These are facts, pure and simple. I blieve even the tech data base on here has that right.

And I am 100% sure NEVER made any mechanical changes that could've produced any more power for for the 5 years it was in the F-body.

 

Yeah, my data is wrong.

Thanks for the correction.

 

well his didnt have a limiter i guess, it was goin 130, and for who ever asked it was a SL2, it did take about 2 miles to get that fast but it did it, i owned one for a few weeks i never got it over 90, but it was highly messed up (cracked raditior, thermostat stuck closed, broke water pump, only firing 3 cylinders, and the fact that it would barely run once it got heated up)

 

My friends boat anchor,er LO3 had a spee limiter on it, I can't remember what it was, just a hair over 100 I believe..

 

i got my lo3 just over 115 so not sure what your talking about

 

firstly i thougth 305 tbi's were in the 15's range.secondly i had an 84 trans am with the lg4.. pathetic engine and i tore up a 91 3.1 rs. i have the 2.73 gearing but i am puttin 3.23's in it. this car is quick so for all i know it might already have that gearing in it. i was very surprised the extra 20hp from this motor to the lg4 was such a difference. i'm not sure what is up with it, but it's either got a cam or something it kinda idles loppy, or the gearing is changed because this thing can definitely take off. no doubt. i raced an 88 iroc z 350tpi with my 84 and kept up alittle bit so i'm not sure i'll have to see how it does when it's actally on the road.

 

also about the limiter... it's got a limiter of 108 supposedly, 30 bucks can change it to 135 :lala:

 

hey guys


I have a 88 lo3 TBI it's slow by all means.

but my roomate has a 86 SC 2.8 with a EFI cam,motor is bored 30 over
cat back exhaust and a 180 stat with a gutted cat and a home made cold air kit ( dryer ducts ) .

But for some odd reson i can hand him his ****

now one the kick he gets me cause of no wheel spin . but when i gain traction i come by him in the top of second gear bye bye.

i would really like to race a 3.1 5 spd to see how they stack up

my best times at the track was rt .840
60ft 2.32
330 6.850
1/8 10.51
mph 67.323

stock lo3 k/n gutted cat

temp was in the mid 40's low 50's
traction was a severe problem on my last pass of the nite i got a 3.20 60 ft

 

Your 1/8 suggest a mid 15 second 1/4. On a stock LO3? I'd check at least your gears - sounds like you've got a different set of gears than stock 2.73s

 

OK Who the hell cares anymore really? Like two kids going back and forth that my dad can beat up yours, who the hell cares! I mean if its a nice clean looking bird/maro i'll respect it just the same. I know my lo3 is not that fast but i still laugh at the kid in the rusted bondo filled 88 formula that sounds like it has 5 cylinders with rusted cat back and flinstone style floor pans. I mean if your or my car can take out the riced honda 1inch exhast feedin a 5 inch tip 30 pounds of stickers and a wing for rear"down force" on a front wheel drive car more power to domestics, whether its a 6 or a 350 running 8's in the end its the same car with the same possibilties. If i had a 6 i'd rip it out and put at least a 350, my lo3 im lookin to get 100k then rippin it out and gettin a 350 so either way it doesnt matter right?

 

I can beat this,
I can beat that,
I'm gonna beat this post with a frikin baseball bat.

signed, AGood2.8 (copyright 2003)

 

hey doward


My 88 SC is stock except for the gutted cat and k/n. i too was surprised at what it ran. As far as i know the car still has the stock rear gears 2.73:1. i bought the car from the origanal owner. the car has a bunch of highway miles on it but it's really in great shape and i think that is how it still run so strong.

i think that taking care of a car and doing matenece will keep one running strong for a long time 151k and still that tranny is banging gears


P.S. since the car performs so well now with the stock chip you guys think a custom chip would pick me up any?

 

yea chip definitely is good.

talk to brian at http://www.tbichips.com

very nice. if your car is stock check out the 1228746 catalog number.

 

hey 84 trans am


i tried to get a chip about a year ago and was told that there was not one avaible for the 88 model yr because it was a one year ecm. and the guy could not locate the binary files to make the changes for more power.

 

Yeah, I agree!!!!:sillylol:

Enough of this TBI/V6 crap!

 

Yeah.. It was an alright post until it hit page 2...then it just got tiring.

 

Yep, Now it's getting all "off topic" too!!! :lala: