what are sone decent power adders for a 3.1L v6 Camaro... Right now I have flowmasters, and k&N, but I doubt they are doing much... Are there any decent superchargers that will fit out cars and no cost a G????

1999 Eclipse 2.0 dual overhead cams 16V 4cycl Vs.. 3.1L v6 RS Flowmasters K&N

beat him by about a car length... But when I gave him a rolling start I caught up to him, then it's like I could do nothing but stick to where his passenger side door is... why??? I know overhead cams opens up later on in the rpms and at higher speeds.... Also is there any way to put cams in our 3.1...

 

Doward here...

Search... first, TomP's tune up.

Then you can port/polish the heads, new cam (there's only one)... roller rockers, catback (whick I believe you have?)

As far as big power adders... well, you can add a turbo....

 

GREAT NEWS GREAT NEWS!!!!!! I got me a 305 v8 outta 91 RS camaro, he is going to sell it to me for 400 bucks!!!!

 

You do realize you'll need either -

a) carb for it
b) ecu/wiring for the 305 to keep it MPFI or is it TBI?

As well as tranny, crossmembers, new springs for stock ride height... it's not a simple swap.

 

he should have about as much fun as I am, only doesn't have to fab motor mounts.

 

Would the 1.6 Rollers give as much lift with the stock cam as a mild cam? I know the duration wouldn't change, but I've been lookin into getting Rollr rockers, and found a set of stamped 1.6 rollers for cheap. Only thing is, they need 3/8 rocker studs too. Anybody tried 1.6 with stock cam? How was the change in power?

 

the MPFI ecm in his car will run an 8cylinder just fine. few thigs need to happen in the eprom but its not a big deal. . should acutally be pretty easy. infact al youll have to do is lengthen a few pieces of wiring to make it fit in the car.

If you need some wiring guidance let me know.

my email is djfreggens@aol.com

 

I really apprieciate all the help guys... but it's the whole car he is selling to me for 400 bucks with everything still in it.....

So my current MPFI in my 3.1L v6 will work on the 8 cycl... Right now it's a TBI 305, but I head that TPI is better.....

 

Is there any member here that lives near sumter SC???? Once getting this 305 I am going to totally strip it down, to a block and replace all the rings gaskets and seals, as long with takeing the pistons and heads to a machine shop to get cleaned up and my friend was telling me about "rehoning" the pistons, what is "rehoning"???

 

A 3.1 '730 ecu is going to run a TBI V8?

6 injector connectors... tbi has 2... I'm confused.

 

I have been looking up articles about the 305 v8... lots of negativity. only 170-190 hp stock.... very sad numbers... makes me wonder what type of numbers I am pushing.. they said the 305 has a longer stroke than the fords 302, and it can't be bored out much cause of the limited space....I believe, I will leave this car alone and wait on a wrecked up 350, hopefully, I can find me a wrecked up 93-95 camaro ss, and ripe the 350 outta it...why does the 305 have such weak hp and torque?? the 4.3L v6 pushes 190-200 hp stock.... I am scared to see how much hp my 3.1 pushes stock...

 

Changed my mind decided not to buy the 91 rs camaro 305 v8 tbi, instead I will look for a 3.4l v6 to swap with my 3.1 since everything is pretty much interchangable... Plus the 305's everyone was telling me that it would be a waste of money...

 

Yes, that's a good choice - the 3.4 will net you 160/200 vs your stock 140/180

 

doward how did you get your 3.1l turbo charged???

lol, Im listening to the cranberries....zombie

 

do a search for doward's turbo archives.....it has been covered FULLY

 

hey doward next year I plan on taking vac. to go to fl... Maybe around the orlando area for a few days, I am only in SC, about a 8 hr drive... To go down there after I get my camaro painted, and the rims repainted, you mind if I can take a look at the turbo 3.1???

 

Shoot no! By next year, hopefully i'll have it all Jet Hot coated, and looking... how you say... the nice...

I'll even take ya for a wild little spin in it

As for how it got that way? About a year of research, lots of prototyping, more research, some actual development, and a LOT OF WRENCH THROWING!

 

You got it Dyno'd yet???

 

and doward forgot the most important tool of all... The Vortex...


hey... im not a tool!!!!

I was a pain... but its one of those "no pain, no pain" processes...

so we had pain, blood, sweat, tears, and beers. and hell, we want people to see it up and running... we're gonna shoot for a tour of FL to get the word out...

Let us know when you're in town, it'll be fun.

 

Yes, massive help from the V. Lots of fabbing on his part!

Dyno is a def. The better question, is when I'll have time to!

 

lol, when I come down this spring, I will make sure to bring a 24 pack.. Yall like long necks or cans, I perfer long necks...

 

What type of super chargers (part #'s would be great) would work in our 3.1's??? how much would I be looking at spending, and what to look for when I got to the junk "treasure" yard this weekend.... The dude who owns it has 9 acres of vechiles and has more pouring in, from other junk yards that doesn't want them anymore and insurance companies, dumping off totalled vehciles... The dude who owns it, has one rule one price on all his engines.... 75 bucks on any engine, U pull, U Hual.... So you gots to be out there like early on a fir morning, to get the good stuff or the local garage owners will leave nuthing but bent metal, it's great...... Going there this fri...

 

anyone wants me to look for anything for them???? trust me, I have the day off I will have nothing better to do..

 

Oh boy, you guys really need to check out theese sites. the 60* V6 has so much potential. I know a few people in the low 12's with a 3.1 block in a Cavalier Z24.

Check out:

http://www.domesticcrew.com/660/

these guys really know their sh*t ^^

and

www.turboz24.com

Curtis is the man^^

I've got a bit of work done to my 1991 Z24 (3.1MPFI/Muncie 5spd)

it'll run constant high 15's right now, i hope to get it into the 14's this coming summer. we'll see.......

 

Sounds sweet... hey, if you can hit that boneyard, I need a RWD (camaro or firebird) 3.1 base intake. That's the lowest intake, that sits on the heads themselves.

 

base intake..... ok, I'll see if he has one...

 

I Gots me Another Kill Today... 4.6L Tbird...... just so happened to be at the front of the red light. then once it turned green, he sped off catching a quick tire, I was kinda shaddy about it and had to think about if I should attempt the run with this v8 Tbird or should I just lay back and be the safe driver, then I said what the hell, I floord it and pull up next to him we was coasting at about 35, when he floord' it and started to pull off, well, I did the same.... To mine and his surprised, we were side by side, and I was slowly pulling away from him... after I got my rearend infront of him I slowed down and we both pulled over to the side of the road... He asked if I had the 305 or the 350..... I thought I was bull ****tin' when I told him a v6, lol..... He thought I was seriously bsin' him, till I popped my hood and show him the 3.1L v6..... Really nice guy, he wants to race again from a even stop... You think I'll be able to beat him from a even stop???? I love driving my camaro, I have had cops pull up next to me, with there crown vic's and speed off, thinking I might be dumb enough.... I never thought I would get so much attention it's great, I love it... I can't wait till I do get me a 350, I am thinking of saving up for a Recon 350 crate engine that kicks 350 hp...

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by trickedout02
[B]I Gots me Another Kill Today... 4.6L Tbird...... Complete and udder Bullsh*t! I have owned a 4.6 ford car. (98 mustang gt) And have smoked many cars with it. There is no way on earth your beating a 4.6 with your 3.1. You need to either stop trying to impress people on here by lieing or get off the crack! IF you did keep up with the guy its either because 1, he let you or 2, he had a stick and didnt know how to shift out of first gear!

 

B()bert sorry you don't believe, me but I don't find impressing people that I don't know or have ever truely meet, all that satisfying..... If you are offended by me posting my experience's in my Camaro, then I will stop doing so. But isn't it possible that from coasting at 35 mph then flooring it you can keep up and out accelerate the 4.6L ford engine..... I believe so, these 4.6l fords are not all too powerful, I am sure if we came off the line together he would have probably beatin' me... Also the Tbird was a early 90's version with a beatin' up body....

 

95 and down is the crappy 3.8 engine and the 5.0 . 96 up is the 4.6. If it was a 4.6 there is no way in hell your beating him. no im not offended i just dont like posers. How do you know it was a 4.6? 4.6's are not too powerful? lol you obiously have never owned or driven one. I got my mustang to 320 hp with very simple crap. I could rev first gear out to 70 mph. Let me see your 3.1 do that without blowing up. Just because you lack knowledge on other cars doesnt mean everyone on the v6 forum does. Your claim is bullsh*t if it was a 4.6. If in fact you did even keep up with him then most likely it was an older v6 tbird.

 

To answer some of the questions in the thread:

THere is NO supercharger or turbo kit out there for these cars yet. Even if there was, there's no way you would find it for under 1000.

If you want to swap the V8 in, you'll need the engine, accessories, ECU, wiring, transmission (yours won't bolt up), and you'll need new front springs.

If you want to swap a 4.3LV6 in, you'll need the exact same as above, minus the springs (although they would still be a good idea.

 

lmao, one things for sure. I have whooped the hell out of a late 80's 5.0 auto with my 1991 Z24 5spd. But the newer stangs (4.6) are pretty quick. My theroy is that if it can keep up with the T/A it deserves my respect. and that even goes for that little bastard in the turbo dodge shadow that owned my *** at a stoplight one day

but we must take into acount for driver skill, maybe the ford owner didn't know how to handle that car or maybe he/she didn't know they were racing

I raced a lamborghini with my T/A once, i whopped it's ***. oh wait it was parked

 

Bad choice... While the 305 only makes around 170-190hp it makes relatively decent torque. The TPI versions put off 220hp and people have made over 400hp with the motors. It is cheaper to build a 350, but you have to include the engine price in that. For 400 dollars you couldn't have gone wrong. Even the TBI L03 seems like a big block compared to the 2.8 V6. I know, I have both.

 

"rev first gear out to 70 mph..." that ONLY has to do with gearing. hp and speed have absolutely nothing to do with each other EXCEPT trap speed at the drag strip. the 4.6 coulda been old and wore out, therfore not running as strong as it should. my 3.1 almost beat a early 90s stang at the dragstrip and he had a 5.0. i pulled him about 3/4 of the way down the 1/8mile, then he finally passed me and beat me.

 

key words here,"he beat me". thanks for the comment. It is amazing how SOME people who have v6 cars can beat all these cars that SOme of their v8 counterparts could have a hard time beating. Wtf are you people who buy v8s thinking. For that matter what was gm thinking!

 

Sorry it was my fault it wasn't a 4.6 then, cause the body style is of a early 90's late 80's not big on ford... Only ford I have ever drove was a 94 ranger. I come from a family have has a long list of chevy's mostly z71 silverados (******* Cuzin's & Uncle's) but they are all great people... Reason why I said at the beginning it was a 4.6 tbird is cause I have a friend who has a tbird with a 4.6l v8 and it's like a 94 or 95 or around there. Reason why I felt it was a v8 was cause it had dual exhaust and it was louder than the noise that my flowmasters were kickin' out unless the 3.8's came with dual exhaust then I probably did race a 3.8l v6 with a rust'd out muffler... cause it was seriously loud...

 

Do the 91 rs camaro 3.1l v6's computer chip come with a rev limiter??? it's like my car wont go over 85 for nothing... I can feel it want to go faster, cause it only revin' at like 24-3000 in OD at 85 miles per hour, when I am going about 55 then floor it, it picks up to 85 pretty fast, my 2002 s10 with the 2.2l can pick up to 95 then the govern will kick in and I loose accleration till its back around 55... Should I just get the engine rebuilt?? or pistons rehonned or something??? why no go over 85, it's also stoping at 85.... it sux....

 

Yes it does, but it's set higher than 85.

 

it should have a fuel cutoff at about 110, 85 is a bit low. i'd check out your tranny and make sure the TCC is locking up.

 

if its at 2400-3000 rpms, i'd guess that the convertor is locked...i don't know what the problem would be though. do you have stock rearend gears?

 

im a little confused, you beat all these caRS YET YOU CAN NOT GO OVER 85?

 

trickedout02,

I have a '92 3.1L and hit 115MPG regularly. it has no problem getting up to speed. You must have some thing going very wrong.

 

I dont think his mpg was an issue and if you get 115 mpg whats your secret!!!!!:hail: :hail: :hail:

 

Damn, i'm averaging 6-10 in the '82 and my Z24 gets about 15.

LOL

 

Should I have my transmission rebuilt??? I have a stock rearend, I believe... I bought the car used.... only thing I have had done to it was a CAI and flowmasters running bosch plat. 4, but I doubt they really make a difference as for power goes...

 

www.nethirdgen.org for non tech-Ovrclck350

 

Or www.allmakescombined.com www.3rdgen.org or any of the others-Ovrclck350

 

Dude no one cares if you have no beer. this is a tech forum not a poser race forum or a i need a friend forum, So 1, post tech only sh*t, no lies no bs and 2, USE THE DAMN EDIT BUTTON! stop posting sh*t right after your post! have you noy noticed no one is even replying to you anymore? damn read the rules of the forum before you post anything else. Your just waisting space.

 

Why are you worried about me and what I do?

 

Will a mod please step in and explain the rules to this newbie please!