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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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ohh....yeah. you can have that. thats what i said above though...about it destroying any hopes of making any horsepower.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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What if I modified the FWD intake?? Oh should I save my money and buy the GM performance parts bowtie block? I dont even know how much it is tho. Cause Im guessing with the Aluminum heads that the pistons might be also. I dont know much about FWD applisations so if Im right yay go me if not o well.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Car: 91 Camaro
Engine: 3.1...not hardly stock
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Axle/Gears: 3.73
about modifying the fwd base intake...that's what The_Raven was saying, you have to basically make it unusable to get the dist. to clear. i haven't had my hands on one so, i can't say for sure but that's the report that he gives. the weight aspect of the gm bowtie block is nice but (i forget all the liimits, ie. bore, stroke,...) but i think a 2.8 is really about the biggest it can be. so, i can't justify the $3k for it, personally. you mean that the pistons might be aluminum? yes, they are...almost any piston you ever find will be aluminum.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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So Bowtie block is basically a very expensive paper weight? Lol
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by 69charger383
So Bowtie block is basically a very expensive paper weight? Lol
very expensive LIGHT WEIGHT paper weight.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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Car: 2005 Lincoln LS, 83' Z28
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If I can get a 5-speed car would the swap get me better ET's and such? Im thinking it would for one cause you have more gearing and two isnt it less weight? Does anyone make a lightened flywheel? Someone told me to drill holes in my driveshaft for less weight today?? I dont know how well that would work out. Oh and another thing, completely off subject but in my power auto class we were discussing energy and the next thing I hear is "Since sun causes cancer wouldnt that make cancer a source of energy?" Word for word. Whats better: Posi with 3.23/%-speed or One-legger 3.73/auto? Not as much tration but gas, top speed, acceleration.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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Car: 91 Camaro
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Axle/Gears: 3.73
a 5 speed should help your ets IF you are good at driving it. it is lighter, has better gears and manual trannys always transfer more of the engine's hp/tq because of not having to run the pump. don't drill holes in the driveshaft!! not only will it make it very weak...it would more than likely throw it well out of balance and cause even more problems. why not go posi with 3.73s? you only got money for one or the other? if that's the case...i'd probably do posi 3.23 for now and get the 3.73s, later.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:51 PM
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Yeah modifying the FWD intake is not really an option. Both myself and Doward are looking at different ways to make the dizzy fit. For me it would be swapping teh ignition system from DIS to dizzy, for Doward this is a swap to the aluminium top end (I've already done that. :P)

I've been running a 3.73 peg-leg in my truck and will be swapping to a 3.42 posi (Zexel Torson), when the truck comes back out.

Given my past experiance and your two choices, go posi.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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Ive caught posi with my rear in the rain and such before tho? Dont think it is an actual posi rear ho, maybe a LSD. Doesnt catch all the time.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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Ive caught posi with my rear in the rain and such before tho? Dont think it is an actual posi rear ho, maybe a LSD. Doesnt catch all the time.
what do you think LSD stands for?

limited slip differential

what does it mean when the amount of slip is limited?
if it doesn't always work you either have a worn/broken LSD or an open differential
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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I know what it stands for. Can you take 2.8 S-10 headers and modify them to fit under the hood of an F-bod. I want long tubes but hooker or whoever stopped making them for our cars.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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I know what it stands for. Can you take 2.8 S-10 headers and modify them to fit under the hood of an F-bod. I want long tubes but hooker or whoever stopped making them for our cars.
so just to clarify things up then a posi IS a LSD
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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Car: 91 Camaro
Engine: 3.1...not hardly stock
Transmission: 700r4....not stock either
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Originally posted by 69charger383
I know what it stands for. Can you take 2.8 S-10 headers and modify them to fit under the hood of an F-bod. I want long tubes but hooker or whoever stopped making them for our cars.
you might *be able to* but it wouldn't be easy or cost efficient. i'd just buy the pacesetters and be done with it. or, if you're willing to take all of the time and effort to modify those...just build a set from scratch.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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How much of a gain do you think the Pacesetter headers 5-speed swap and my intake will give me? Oh I also just ordered the ASP crank pully 25% underdrive. Could I get into the 15's with just those mods? I got a good CAI system also. On a local ghetto strip I ran 16.8 but it could be more or less.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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i haven't seen your intake or anything but if its a good design and if you can drive a stick good (like launch it correctly and shift really fast), you might have a shot at high 15s (with the headers, too). you should atleast be low 16s, i'd think.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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Well I know I can shift pretty hard cause I usually slam it in there doesnt take more than 1/2 second for em to shift including hitting and releasing the clutch. But thats on 4-bangers so I dont know how well I would be with a Camaro. How far over can my engine be bored? I was thinking of going .040 over. Would that give me decent power?
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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1/2 A SECOND? HOLY **** THAT'S SLOW!!!
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 11:45 PM
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LOL Im guessing?? I havent timed my shifts or anything. Ive chirped third in my friends probe (decently fast) He has trouble chirping second. Hes a good driver too. Taught me how to atleast
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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Well since my scanner is down ATM Im gonna try to draw the design of my intake with keys so here it is.... ----
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I hope all of you can somewhat understand it. If you cant Ill have actual drawing up in a day or two. All opinions are welcome... The runners arent gonna be more than 10 inches.
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