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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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It came to me in a dream

I have seen those electric super/turbo chargers for sale on eBay and other places but as we all know they are junk. But on youtube yesterday I saw a video of a brush less electric motor hooked up to a electric blower that had enough power to blow a full beer can across a table. now I had been kicking around the idea of a good electric turbo for a while because I didn't want to do anything irreversible to my car which would be required to do an actual turbo.

The very concept of a electric turbo has some very fundamental problem like powering, the parasitic drag when the turbo isn’t in use, which type of turbo should be used, and how the boost should be delivered. I have come up with a few ideas, questions, and problems.

if you took one of the battery relocation kits and used it to have two batteries you could use one for normal operation of the car and the other to power the electric supercharger. now this brings up a problem. you would have to recharge the secondary battery all the time but I came up with a solution with this. I have the pace setter headers so my smog pump isn't doing anything so you take off the smog pump and put on another alternator to charge the secondary battery. now I don't even know if that would work and I'm probably just saying mumbo jumbo, but its makes for a interesting idea doesn’t it.


I have seen two main types of electric superchargers a squirrel cage one and a inline turbine one. But I would think the inline ones would have less parasitic drag. if you were to use the squirrel cage I would think that you would have a type of dual snorkel intake to counteract the drag. with one end hooked up to a normal air filter and the other end hooked up to the squirrel with a inline air filter and some sort of valve that would shut the normal air filter as to not let the air that super charger generates out the normal air filter.

what I personally think would work best is sticking with the dual idea but instead of have one I would have two of the turbine inline superchargers with inline air filters. one on each snorkel. my reasoning behind this is that
1 it would save space using inline superchargers not that there is that much of a lacking of space considering the room where those 2 cylinders should be but still.
2 with two superchargers you would not need a valve that wouldn't let the boosted air out when you are using them. the two superchargers would push against each and have no where else to go but into the engine
3 with two superchargers the drag created when they are not in use would be cancelled out because of the dual snorkel letting enough air in

the only thing that would be different between two inline and two squirrel cages would be the amount of space you can come up with.

here is another problem would you use the electric supercharger like normal forced induction or like nitrous. To put it another way would you rig something to the throttle so that it would respond like a real supercharger or would you just have a switch that would turn it on and off like nitrous.
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Re: It came to me in a dream

why waste your time. You could just go regular turbo for tons cheaper and it will be safer in the rain.
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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Re: It came to me in a dream

how much can you do a turbo job for
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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Re: It came to me in a dream

exactly
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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Re: It came to me in a dream

Well if you read project89's aka daves12secv6 sticky on how to install a turbo he makes a parts list. The turbo subject has been covered very thoroughly by a few people. If you do a search I'm sure you will find all you need.
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Re: It came to me in a dream

junkyard dog-turbo
you can do it on a tight budget. or at least I hope so, cause I'm gonna try it sooner or later.
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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Re: It came to me in a dream

I ran out of hope long ago
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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Re: It came to me in a dream

if thats the way you want to go then do it.
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