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Old May 18, 2011 | 10:15 PM
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what do you think

im not sure where to post this, ive looked for a discussion section or something but there is none.

so saturday im about to go pick up a 1990 rs v6 115k automatic for 900 for the most part everything in the engine is factory is that good or bad? hes original owner, and he said its been garaged for the past 5 years and drivin a couple times a year. the bad is it needs a paint job theres some rust and theres dents in both doors (not sure how bad cant really see in the pics) and i was just looking for input about the car and the way these cars hold up engine wise and if its a good buy for a DD?
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Old May 18, 2011 | 10:28 PM
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its a decent price if its not it too bad of shape, youd really have to know more about it and look at the extent of the body damage
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Old May 18, 2011 | 10:33 PM
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this is the link to get a better idea http://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/2386298600.html
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Old May 18, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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I have a 89 RS and it has a V6 in it. It runs great! Just rolled over 50 thousand miles.
The only problems with these cars sitting, is the fuel pump could go out because bad gas, oil should be changed before driving, all fluids for that matter. Plugs, wires, cap. Flush radiator, Transmission. Which you can do all this your self. Put some seafoam in once you get the bad gas out, when you feel up. The car should run great after all this. My concern would be rust. A lot of times you know it has rust because you can see it. But check all floor panels, doors and under it. Good luck! I love my 89!
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Old May 18, 2011 | 10:47 PM
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I have a 89 RS and it has a V6 in it. It runs great! Just rolled over 50 thousand miles.
The only problems with these cars sitting, is the fuel pump could go out because bad gas, oil should be changed before driving, all fluids for that matter. Plugs, wires, cap. Flush radiator, Transmission. Which you can do all this your self. Put some seafoam in once you get the bad gas out, when you feel up. The car should run great after all this. My concern would be rust. A lot of times you know it has rust because you can see it. But check all floor panels, doors and under it. Good luck! I love my 89!
the gas and oil are the only thing im worried about because i would have to drive about an half hour back to my house,, would it be better if i full what evers left in the tank up with good gas? or would that be bad?


if the gars been garaged the rust shouldnt be that bad right?
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Old May 18, 2011 | 11:06 PM
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Yes if the car runs, fill it up with gas, Oil change is a fast and easy job. Don't by it buy the quart, buy one of the big jugs, they have 5 or 6 quarts in them, I use 5-30 GTX. But your oil cap should tell you what to put in it.Then all you need is your oil filter. Does it seem to run good? whats the oil look like? How about the radiator liquid? You just don't want all that bad stuff running through your motor if you can avoid it. If you gat a chance post a picture up so we can have a look. Oh is it a 2.8 or 3.1 motor V6?
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Old May 18, 2011 | 11:10 PM
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in one of my erlier post i posted up the ad although the pictures suck that all i have, im going to go check it out sat morning, the guy said it starts right up and im sure it has the 3.1 because from what i got the 1990 didnt have the option for the 2.8?
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Old May 18, 2011 | 11:23 PM
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A '90 should come with a 3.1, the best stock V6 the 3rd gen saw...

I've found they make OK daily drivers IF you have a backup car. Mine's needed a good amount of work to make it reliable (fuel pump, injectors, alternator, tensioner pulley, ignition module, in addition to all the regualr tune up stuff. If your Ok with the probability of spending at least a few hundred more than you paid for it, you'll be good.
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Old May 18, 2011 | 11:43 PM
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I agree with K- slice. With in the first 5 months I did all the things I wrote, but I also replaced the pully, alt, blower motor, the hose regulater thing for my radiator. and a few things i needed.
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Old May 18, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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Re: what do you think

door dents arent a big deal, its easy to put on new doors that dont have dents,specially since the car will need paint.

my main concerns would be how does it run, and how bad is the rust,and is the floor rotted out.

check the spare tire well on the passenger side, remove the carpet fro the bottom and see if its rotted out, thats one main place that rots out on the car.

crawl under the car and check the floor for rust some rust is ok and if the car isnt bad it will just be surface rust, if u see rust push against it with ur fingers carefully and make sure u cant push ur fingers threw it. i suggest wearing gloves


from the looks of it in the pictures id offer the guys 8-900 cash if it checks out
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Old May 18, 2011 | 11:53 PM
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no offense but if you read i would get it for 900 thats the lowest he said he would go is has New Exhaust from cat back, New Starter, New Tensioner Pully everything else is all original stright from the factory

he said the only rust is the bat box a small amount in the wheel wells
ill just have to wait till sat to check those things out and see how it runs if the engine sounds healthy im going to get it

my brother picked up a 1980 camaro berleanta? something like that with the v8 even tho the engine is rusted it still runs pretty good and idk why but he paid 1000 for that, b
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Old May 19, 2011 | 12:04 AM
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Do it. Figure $200 for the "TomP tune up" (search, its worth it), then another $300 for random crap that might be worn like brake pads. Sounds like a good deal.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 12:14 AM
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that doesnt sound that bad,, dents and little rust i dont care about, as long as the engine and tranny is in good shape thats all that matters.

another thing the cars blue but lets say i repaint it like flat black would that decrease the value since its not original
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Old May 19, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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Re: what do you think

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another thing the cars blue but lets say i repaint it like flat black would that decrease the value since its not original
lol, wouldn't worry about that, fix it up however you like it, and have fun with it
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Old May 19, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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lol, wouldn't worry about that, fix it up however you like it, and have fun with it
yea i know but i dont want to reduce the value, but then again it is in bad need of a paint job. i dont if you guys ever heard of plasti-dip but thats what i would use.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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You're going to paint the car with a plastic coating?

A bad paintjob will reduce the value, and probably your enjoyment, of the car. ie not painthign the door jambs or using a cheap paint. So whatever you do make sure to do a good job that wont need constant upkeep or a total re-do in 2 years.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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You're going to paint the car with a plastic coating?

A bad paintjob will reduce the value, and probably your enjoyment, of the car. ie not painthign the door jambs or using a cheap paint. So whatever you do make sure to do a good job that wont need constant upkeep or a total re-do in 2 years.
not really a plastic coating and its not really paint but the reason why im thinking of this is that if you dont like it you can just peel it off heres a thread about it and how good it comes out http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/hang...ed-my-car.html
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Old May 19, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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Heres a thought... You are paying $900 for a car, I wouldn't be so worried about it's value. I would be more worried about how bad *** its gonna look with a new paint job glistening in the sun.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 06:24 PM
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Heres a thought... You are paying $900 for a car, I wouldn't be so worried about it's value. I would be more worried about how bad *** its gonna look with a new paint job glistening in the sun.
why would it look bad with a new paint job???????
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Old May 19, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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if youll notice the three little stars next to bad i tried to write a naughty word, which i shouldnt have, but the phrase in which I am referring to does not mean bad, what I meant to say was how sweet its gonna look
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Old May 19, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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if youll notice the three little stars next to bad i tried to write a naughty word, which i shouldnt have, but the phrase in which I am referring to does not mean bad, what I meant to say was how sweet its gonna look
gotcha its not going to be clear coated its going to be a flat color considering my cash budget plastidip and you have your self a nice paintjob for about 100
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Old May 19, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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No offense but I wouldn't plastidip the car especially if it has existing rust. Reason being your just covering it up making it that much easier for it to spread. Depeding on how bad it is wet sanding and clear coat go a long way. Especially is you got a steady hand and know how to spray paint. Just curious where you from I see your a dsm fanatic and a friend of mine just recently crashed his eclipse .
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Old May 19, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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No offense but I wouldn't plastidip the car especially if it has existing rust. Reason being your just covering it up making it that much easier for it to spread. Depeding on how bad it is wet sanding and clear coat go a long way. Especially is you got a steady hand and know how to spray paint. Just curious where you from I see your a dsm fanatic and a friend of mine just recently crashed his eclipse .
yea im not going to spray over the rust and plus plastidip is idiot proof and you cant **** it up,, i live in CT now my 91 tsi jumpped timing 2 weeks after i got it paid 1600 parted it out made my money back still got some other pieces left.... you cant lie for a 4cyl those things will murder some v8s,, i would get another one but cant really find one and im looking for something more reliable and my brother got a 1980 camaro with 130k rusted nice but still drive fine so why not, plus ive always wanted a 3 gen camaro
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Old May 19, 2011 | 08:01 PM
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Lol anything can screw if you putbyour mind to it! Remember your in a v6 camaro forum lmao. My gf has a 97 eclipse so ya I know they can move would I drive one? He'll no . To each his own I would never plastictize anything of mine but my truck is primed black. Way I look at it if your going to put fourth the effort if its primed you can get it painted over it.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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Lol anything can screw if you putbyour mind to it! Remember your in a v6 camaro forum lmao. My gf has a 97 eclipse so ya I know they can move would I drive one? He'll no . To each his own I would never plastictize anything of mine but my truck is primed black. Way I look at it if your going to put fourth the effort if its primed you can get it painted over it.
if your girl dont have at least the gst or gsx then its nothing lol but im not here to talk dsms.

i know you wont use it but im not that good painting and i dont have that big of a budget, would i do it hell ya just because it comes out perfect and its not bad at all and no prep work need execpt to clean the car before, and its removable to, the camaro its not primed the clear coat it peeling.


cant wait till saturday hopefully the car is good, and i can put the ttops to work
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Old May 19, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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If the base coat is solid clear coat it man im telling you wont regret it. Is it comes out bad wet sand it and throw another coat of clear. And like I said you best take care of the rust if you put that stuff on there. Good luck to you man what ever you choose to do this is the best forum for the 60 degree v6. Soon as you get it your guna want more power I sunset looking at the sticky on this forum lots of good mode.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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i dont want more power well i do but the way gas is im glad i dont have a v8 since im going to use this as a DD jw what do these engines usally run up to?
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Old May 19, 2011 | 08:37 PM
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Roughly 130hp
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Old May 19, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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i kinda ment like mileage,
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Old May 19, 2011 | 10:06 PM
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Some guys get these past 300k all about how you treat it like any other car
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Old May 19, 2011 | 10:19 PM
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18MPG around town, mid-high 20's on the highway or in the country.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 11:20 PM
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alright sounds good... ill if i do get it ill be sure to post up some pictures and go into more detail about the car
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Old May 21, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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so i picked her up today. looked alright the dents wasnt as bad as i thought they was little, auto tranny shifted smooth a lil dirty very very very little surface rust oh and i got it for 700 the only thing the rpm gauge dont work?
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