hello everyone, i have been looking all over the net for a V6 camaro forum and i finally found one!

I just bought my first car, a 1987 V6 automatic MPI Camaro Sports Coupe and its in perfect condition, engine is wonderful, int. is red and looks brand new, ext. is white and has 0 body dents and good paint job. it needs rims and ground effects but thats not what im worried about, my friend has a 1989 V8 Camaro RS and is a fanatic, he said that my car looks perfect but it has no ***** "pardon the term". this upsets me because and i want to know if this is true, i know that it is nothing compared to a V8 305 or 350 engine, but is my car slow? i a planning on getting a flowmaster exaust and K&N filters for it and i have a few questions for you guys.

1.Do multi port fuel injectors require 1 or 2 air filters & are they good?

2.Is there any way i can get more air into my engine "ram air"?

3.Around how much would it cost to buy ground effects from a RS at a junk yard???

4.whats is a good item to cover up chiped paint?

5. what else can i do to beef up my camaro

i would appreciate it if you could help me out, i will be coming here very often now, i have alreay found a grip of info here, thanks.



[This message has been edited by 87_Camaro (edited July 24, 2001).]

 

your new car sounds very cool. dont listen to your friend! v6 camaros arent speed demons but they are pretty fast!! If your car is fuel injected it needs two air filters. they are located under the air filter box located in the front of the car that hooks up to the plentum.the box is over the radiator. undo the fasteners and lift up the box. they will be there.to get more air into the car drill holes in the bottom of the holders where the air filters sit. If you do enough mods to it you can make it run with your friends car! Just remember that v6 camaro's kick A$$

 

87 Camaro ,
Hey man , Welcome to the board , Im new to .I would not worry about what your friend said about your camaro ,Sounds like a fine car to me .I know there is plenty of people who would love to get their hands on a V6 ,and arent even thinking about V8s. I have heard of beefed up 2.8s hanging with 305s on the track .I dont know what kinda airfilter box you have .I have a 88 2.8 v6 with dual boxes on the front , I took the water shields out and sawed out part of the bottems of my boxes ,and droppped in some k&n filters and removed my air silencer. This mod on my car brought the car to life .As far as ground effects ,In my opinion ( could be wrong) , that would prabably be hard to find in a junkyard being the car is prabably wrecked , but still look some .If you want them bad enough , I know there is a site on here , I'll find the link and send it to you , that sells parts like that .Goodluck man , Keep us informed , Wayne (WaynesRS)

 

thanks a grip guys, i will keep yall informed as well as post pics of my car very soon so you can see my baby

thanks for the modding info also


[This message has been edited by 87_Camaro (edited July 24, 2001).]

 

I like your attitude V6camaroman
Wayne

 

V6camaroman , I think we both typed the same ideaus and replied to them at the same time , hehe ..cool ... ....Wayne

 

Your welcome 87 camaro , can't wait to see the pics ...you dont see many V6 camaros in good shape , I love to see em .When I get my new comp , I will scan some of mine
Wayne

 

well i got this car for a steal, it only cost me 2,200 bucks and the only reason the owner is selling the car to me is because he got a job promotion and is moving to another state by the end of the month, if he wasn't he wouldn't sell the car period, he origionally wanted 2,500 for it, but i hagled and got it for 2,200 all it need's is supporters to hold up the hood and hatch back wich isn't hard to get hold of.

 

oh and whats up with this 3.1 swap im reading so much about? what is it

 

good buy 87_camaro!!! If i find any performance ideas for 2.8 mpfi i will inform you

 

87 camaro

I dont know much about the 3.1 swap . I have heard that a 3.1 camaro is not much faster than a 2.8 .My dad owns a 96 grandprix with a 3.1 in it .My 2.8 feels like it has the same pickup and power has his does , but I know our hp is not the same . Wayne

 

awesome thanks

while i post i may as well ask another question

how much does it cost for a 80 flowmaster system? or what exaust system do you recommend and how much would it be?

 

your welcome ...I had a flowmaster on mine . I hated it , It was to loud .Everyone told me to put a dynamax . I love it , It kinda sounds like a flowmaster , but its much much quieter ,its got a nice rumble to it ,Also with the flowmaster they clamied an increase in hp , I did not notice it but with the dynamax I noticed an increase in power.If I were you id stay away from a flowmaster ,Wayne

 

I got my dynamax put on at AUTO KING for $130 ....Wayne

 

that was installation and the muff

 

the flowmaster 40 series cost $72.95 in summit. another idea is the traditional thrush cherry bomb. I had one on my old v6 camaro and it sounded ok.

 

is that what you have camaroman ? the 40 series ? How does it sound ? I think I had the 80 series on mine , I heard the 40 seris is quieter ...Wayne

 

yeah you dont wanna do a 3.1 swap


you wanna swap in a 3.4!!!!!!! very easy to do!!!!!!!!

ask member KED85 for more info

 

i had the cherry bomb on my old camaro v6.
just stick with the good old 2.8 mpfi

 

3.4 is a good engine ...or you can save some bucks and beef up what you have , I know this is a no brainer , but the 3.4 will be faster sence its a bigger engine (duh) lol .But Im more than pleased with my 2.8 beefed up some ....Wayne ...I like the teal color 1991 teal rs ..

 

Ive had my V6 for 2 yrs and my dad bought it new in '92. The paint is awsome cause i have the front end done when i got in my accident. I put Z28 16" Rims on it. Read my sig and others to help give you ideas to do to your 2.8. And check my car out in readers rides.. search for Pimpride92

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1992 RS 3.1L
Rebuilt Tranny W/
Trans-Go Shift Kit
B&M MegaShifter
ES Trans Mount
Dual Snorkel Intake
W/ K&N'S
Flowmaster Exhaust
Accel 8.8mm Wires, Cap/Rotor And Elec. Coil
1 12" - JL W6 (Loud)
Eclipse 2-Channel Amp
Sony Head Unit
Window Tint 20%
'92 Z28 Wheels

Kill's:
80's Stang 4-Cyl, A few Ricers, Ford Tempo(Weak)
'91 OR '92 Z28(Dont Ask Me How) All On A Mesh Up Tranny! 4th Gen 3.4, Cutlas Ciera 3.8

 

www.geocities.com/overlift

Now I recommend a Dynomax cat back and Catco high flow converter, then I would get power pulleys anda fastchip from fastchip.com... After that doing that I would look into the Crane 2030 Cam and 1.52 Roller lifters, after that I would look into some 3.73 or (4.10) rear end and a locker, after that I would get a double roller timming chain and spray NOS...

 

if the car is an auto get a hurst dual gate shifter & a shift kit. Excelent combo for power shifting!!!

 

https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/...ML/001462.html
That'll do ya fine.
Enjoy the reading
PS how's ya tranny?
Everytime ya do this swap, someone else goes thru the tranny. I've goen thru mine, it's being rebuilt now.
Damn wimpy tranny's

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Chat Soon,
KED85
Karl
1985 Firebird 2.8 to 3.4 swap project for Smog Happy LA, CA

 

yea...i highly recomend the 3.4 swap..bt or now enjoy your 2.8 it's a good little motor,,,and just a point KED is right about the tranny..mine went out about 3 weeks after my swap...so if you ever plan on doing that...hav your tranny checked out first...

wicked

 

wow thanks for all the info guys, i always thought that an exaust system would cost me at the least $250 bucks. WayneRS, now when you said 130 for the dynomax did you mean the muffler & tailpipes & instalation??? or just the muffler & installation, because i need to replace my muffler and tailpipes because htye are rusted and have so many holes it looks like swiss cheese. I may as well get a performance cat converter for 60 bucks more so i guess it will be around 250

in about 3 weeks i am going to the junk yard to look for ground effects & some RS, Z28 or IROC rims for my car, my car WILL be sitting on some RS, Z28 or IROC rims if it's the last thing i do

 

DON'T LAUGH AT THIS.
TRY TO FIND AN EXHAUST AT THE YARD, TOO!
You may get lucky!
A buddy was just quote $200 for his pipes, CC & muffler from Don's Hot Rods.
Call back, see what ya can find out!
Like, you are in his neighborhood!
Don's is in Tuscon, AZ

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Chat Soon,
KED85
Karl
1985 Firebird 2.8 to 3.4 swap project for Smog Happy LA, CA

 

Alright. I didn't really bother to take the time to read all the item aforementioned, so I'm going to start my answer off fresh.

Yes, you have 2 air filters, and yes you can set up a Ram air type setup. FastRS has tried both CAI and Ram Air, and he said he felt more with the CAI if I'm not mistaken.

The V6 F-body's in their MPFI forms (no offense Carb guys) are pretty stout. Back in their day, they could hold their own, however, compared to many of today's more efficient engines, it's a no contest, BUT if you stick around long enough, and listen, we'll make sure that you can at least put some Uncle Ben's on the dinner table.

First off, what you need to do to your car is a full tuneup. TOMP has an old post somewhere of this. I've been meaning to ask him to repost it being that it is almost Fall. I know that he does his in the Spring, but some of us do it at other times. TOMP, hope your listening. BTW, on the tuneup, make your choice of Cap/Rotor, but I strongly suggest either Accel 8.8's or CraneCam's Firewire 8.5 (which I happen to have a spare set of I may be willing to sell....email me though).

After you get a tuneup, then you'll want to go with DYNOMAX catback (149.99 or along that price range at Summit). Flowmaster's on our cars sound nice.....at idle. Anything above 3 grand and you'll start trying to figure out just where they slapped the Honda emblem on your car.

Next, there's the chip. I have a Jet Stage 2, and until I cleared my computer, I felt no difference. Afterwards though, wow. I do know now though that there are better chips out there. Fastchip.

After that, you could start looking at gears. How many miles did you say were on your car? You could possibly wake up your engine with a fresh timing chain. Also an ignition box would increase your spark. I'm fresh out of ideas for now, but we'll be sure to answer all your ?'s if you have any more.

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Smile, you're in my rearview I'm joking, I have a v6, but eventualy it'll be
JACKED UP LIKE A MOTHER
Respect My Authoritaw {Cartman Voice}
See pics @ Billy's Firebird
92 Bird 3.1L Auto--Best $750 I ever spent....DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!
Kills:93 Mustang LX (Before Mods),98 or 99 Dodge Stratus (tough one, edged out at 40),92 Camaro RS 305 TBI-Not too fair, his fuel pump went out 2 days later. Nice car, but not running right. 97+ Honda somethin or another...modded....kept at my door the entire way
Close Calls-94 Grand Am 3.1 V6, 92 Cavalier 3.1 V6
01 Porsche 911 Turbo (Had em till first gear)
Mods-Jet Stage 2 Performance Chip, Accel Cap/Rotor, Accel 8.8 MM Wires, Accell Coil, AC Delco Rapidfire Plugs, Dynomax Catback, K&N
AIM name OVRCLCK350
Best LOUSY Run...17.263 @ 77.79MPH
In a Dog Eat Dog world, I STILL go after tha cat.

 

first of all thanks for the info, this is one of the nicest forums i have ever been to, i haven't even seen any zealots yet

well ovrclck350, i have approx. 113,000 miles on the car. it has a brand new alternator on it.

what stuff would i need for a complete tune up???

just so everyone knows i am getting the car tomorrow and i will know a great deal more about it once my camaro addict get's under the hood and fiddles with everyhting, but from the looks of it, the car is in GREAT condition.

i am so in love with this car, i was an imports man myself "wanted a honda so bad" but when i layed eyes on my friends 89 RS and his 86 IROC V8 TPI
i was hooked, one thing i am ashamed to say is i hardly know squat about cars or camaro's, but with allt he help form these forums and my friend i know ill get the hang and meaning of everything in no time

[This message has been edited by 87_Camaro (edited July 25, 2001).]

[This message has been edited by 87_Camaro (edited July 25, 2001).]

 

87_Camaro, welcome to the site! Overclk350's got the best "plan" for your new toy... start with the basics (tuneup, exhaust, intake), and then move up to the harder stuff. Plus, too, you'll feel the biggest improvement from the tuneup/exhaust/intake- and with that as a basis, any other future mod you do will work even better. Example- you don't want to increase your fuel pressure until you've increased the air flow of the motor- that's air flow "in" and air flow "out".

I'll make a new "Major Tuneup" post for all to see... it's been a while, eh? The Major Tuneup will cost you less than a garage would charge- and you'll replace more. My friend used to get charged way past $100 for plugs, wires, air filter, and fuel filter! That's more like a minor tuneup... I did a major tuneup for him back in '97, and found out he had the original worn-to-hell distributor cap still on the car! The main cost of the major tuneup will be in your choice of aftermarket spark plug wires and K&N air filters. Those 8.5mm Crane wires of Overclk's would be a good start, and you could always buy stock air filters "for now" from K-mart, and add the more expensive K&N filters later.

Oh- here's the ram-air mod for your car. Never mind that it talks about the TPI v8's; your MPFI v6 shares the same intake. https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/tech/ramair.shtml

Chipped paint; well, if you're careful, you can use a bottle of touch-up paint and a toothpick. First, stir the paint with a toothpick. Next, use another toothpick to put small, SMALL dabs of paint in the chip. Don't use the brush inside the cap of the paint bottle! Cover the inside of the chip completely with your small dabs, and let it dry. After it's dry (an hour or so), lay down some more dabs, wait for them to dry, etc- this will help "build up" the chip. The brush inside the cap will leave streak marks, using a toothpick will give you a smoother appearance. As you get near to filling the chip, you could use larger blobs of touch up paint. Just always remember to stir the paint up with one toothpick before applying the paint with another.

[edit] I just posted the Major Tuneup info under another message title; check it out!


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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l) from http://www.f-body.net/mailbag/3rd/3rd_mailbag.html message boards
---Think your car could be pic of the week? Visit http://www.f-body.net for details!

[This message has been edited by TomP (edited July 25, 2001).]

 

87 camaro
Hey dude $130 was just the muffler and istallation , no pipes .

 

You will be amazed when you changed your gears it really helps out alot ...

 

if its a 700r4 get a 3:73 gear for the rear. it will make a big improvement.

 

thanks for the paint info tomP, all of you guys are awesome, i now know more than enough to give my car a good start. keep it coming

 

oh i forgot to mention that my camaro has a full bra on it, i like the way it looks but under the bra the paint has a yellow look to it as if it stained thta color, is there any way i can get the white color back if i decide to remove the bra, or is it permanent????

my friend said bra's do more damage to the car than the sun, is this true?

[This message has been edited by 87_Camaro (edited July 25, 2001).]

 

try giving it a good power wash. if that dont work you might have to repaint it.

 

aren't ya glad you got a camaro instead of a honda ?

 

You might be able to bring the paint back with a polishing compound... maybe your clearcoat just got yellow'd from dirt being trapped between the bra & bumper. If anything, it couldn't hurt. You could polish a small section on the side to see what's up. I think Meguiar's is the company that sells yellow bottles with #'s on 'em... they're polishes, the higher the #, the finer the polish. So if you got a low # and kept working up to the high #'s, it might help...

Plus I always thought bras were for protection against rocks, not sun... but yeah, sun won't nuke paint; as you can see the rest of your car is probably a nice white


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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l) from http://www.f-body.net/mailbag/3rd/3rd_mailbag.html message boards
---Think your car could be pic of the week? Visit http://www.f-body.net for details!

 

you are corrects sir , they are made to stop rocks etc. and thats why i like it because in AZ there is no grass, only gravel etc. etc. so its everywhere, im gonna try your advice on the polish, boy i hope i can make the yellow go away


[This message has been edited by 87_Camaro (edited July 26, 2001).]

 

Hey man, I know how the whole gravel thing goes. I used to have a bra on my car but the clips that clip in the wheel well aren't holding and they flap in the wind! So I left the hood protector on and took off the other piece to get the clips fixed! So where do you live here in tucson?

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1992 RS 3.1L Bone Stock

"Yeah, it's a V6 SO WHAT!?"

 

thats cool you know what im talking about, i hate not having grass but it cant live off the heat.

i live on broadway and halton, right by main street pool and auto zone, how about you??? anywhere near me ?

 

87, at stock power levels your car is a little slow, but I have good news. Throw on a cold air intake system, 3.73's, and a dynomax catback. You'll like the results after these mods, especially the gears. You'll go from slow to decently quick and the 3.73's will give you a more grunty low end.

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1992 black 3.1 V6, auto, T-tops. dynomax catback,3.4 headers, home-made FIPK,hypertech pulleys,B&M shiftkit,3.73's,crane compucam 2030
16flat@85.6

 

87 , when did you say you would get your car ? ...dude i remember when I knew I was ganna get mine but I had to wait , I was 16 yeah I still drive the same one and Im 22 now hehe ...I couldn't hardly wait to get it , it was like the best day of my life LoL .I had dreamed of getting a cam sence I was young enough to know about them hehe

 

3.1 firebird , do you have a soundwave of your car ? ...Gosh i bet it sounds bad@zz sounding car man ...Im thinking about putting a cam in mine for Christmas
Wayne

 

i just got it today! im 18 just so you know, i completly cleaned out the int. with armorall, and cleaned off my rims, i take what i said about my rims back, they are very nice indeed, i have decided to wait till my tires go bald, then i'll replace my rims with some IROC's, i realized that my back tires are just a bit bigger than my front so the car is a bit tilted to the front...i like i like , the tires dont stick out at all, i thought they did at first but now i realize it was in my mind, this car is in such great condition!! i poped in a tape in my car "my car has ERS" the speakers sound fine, they will hold me over till i can upgrade and get a sub woofer, first thing im buying tomorrow is supports for the hood and hatch back because damn are they heavy after holding them up for 5 min. , ythen ill give the engine a good cleaning and wash the car, then ill take some pic for all of you to see


edit: i forgot to mention that i am thinking about not adding the groudn effects on my camaro, its just fine the way it is, pluse its more aero dynamic "no offense"

[This message has been edited by 87_Camaro (edited July 26, 2001).]

 

Hey do you mean broadway and houghton? Well anyways, I know where main street is. I used to play pool there ALOT! Before I hit college and got two jobs! I live on Marigold Cir. It's about at kolb and irvington. Right by one of the entrances to the air force base. You know where that huge beige thing towers at? Can't miss it. I have a polo green 92RS. It's pretty nice when it's clean.(Minus the dent in my drivers side fender) I live on a corner right across the street from a house with 3 camaros, One blue 89 RS an old red berlinetta(I'm guessing 82 or 83), and a 4th gen white V6'er. Too bad the guys seem like ******, we could help each other out if we had problems. OH WELL....

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1992 RS 3.1L Bone Stock

"Yeah, it's a V6 SO WHAT!?"

 

yep i know exactly where thats at iv been past there a few times actully on the way to my friedns house and stuff

 

87 camaro ,
Yeah I had to replace my shocks to on the hood and hatchback awhile back .I washed my car the first day I got it and did not even need to hehe .
Wayne

 

For the hood?
I cheated.
I went to the hardware store and found, on the ground a door sill cover made of aluminum (for afront house door). Fits the height of the hood, full open, perfect.
My back struts still work well. BUT the reason I DO NOT HAVE A WING ON THE BACK, is the extra weight, which would wear out what still works well (gas struts).
Those things are not cheap!

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Chat Soon,
KED85
Karl
1985 Firebird 2.8 to 3.4 swap project for Smog Happy LA, CA

 

hell no gas supports are not cheap lol...

earlier today went to auto zone and bought the hood supports, they were 30.00 bucks all together ill wait for the hatchback supports because they are 80 bucks for the set and i want to save a little of my check lol, i also bought racing pedals wich give the int. of my car look even better than it alreayd does

clean the living **** out of the engine so it looks so aweosme. now all it needs is a wash and vuala!, i took pics of the engine, int. "with pedals installed " and ext.

im going to develope them tomorrow and ill post them by the end of the night or in the afternoon.