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Old May 16, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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Faster V6?

Hey guys is there anything I can do like within budget range that is responable that I can do to my 84 firebird 2.8 carb'd? Like i was thinking of making a carbd 3.1 and I have another thread for that. Besides a turbo or a supercharger what can I do????
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Old May 18, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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Re: Faster V6?

Don't get a 3.1, make the little bit of extra effort to find a 3.4 from a 93-95, its just as easy a swap, but more displacement and power. Also, read my sticky for ideas of what you can do, that's what I wrote it for, a general guideline to give newbies some direction.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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Thx man il look into it.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 03:41 PM
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Re: Faster V6?

If you want some good power ditch the carb, and go EFI. "IMO"
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Old May 18, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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Re: Faster V6?

A carb can make as much power, though the stock carbeurators are worthless, and they are computer controlled if memory serves, making them more so.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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Re: Faster V6?

Yeah I want to put a 4 bbl onto it. (**** MFI) lol and like i just want to put a 4 bbl.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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Re: Faster V6?

Hey project, a little off subject here but do you happen to know any subframe connectors that fit a v6 without much modification?
Thanks.

Ok back on topic.
If I was rich ( damn it I'm not) I'd have project build me an engine. I can't do that kinda stuff anymore. 2 neck surgeries and a blown out left knee won't allow me too.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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Re: Faster V6?

ill say it..get an LSX or 350
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Old May 18, 2012 | 08:38 PM
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Re: Faster V6?

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Hey project, a little off subject here but do you happen to know any subframe connectors that fit a v6 without much modification?
Thanks.

Ok back on topic.
If I was rich ( damn it I'm not) I'd have project build me an engine. I can't do that kinda stuff anymore. 2 neck surgeries and a blown out left knee won't allow me too.
any sfcs that fit a v8 car will fit a v6 car, the chassis and ex routing is the same no matter what engine u have
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Old May 18, 2012 | 09:06 PM
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Re: Faster V6?

SFC's blew my mind on how much of an improvement they were
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Old May 18, 2012 | 10:44 PM
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Re: Faster V6?

Originally Posted by Project 3.4 Camaro
A carb can make as much power, though the stock carbeurators are worthless, and they are computer controlled if memory serves, making them more so.
Yea their ecm controled. I just like the capibilities of of EFI system exspecially if he ever decides to add boost. But I dont know if he wants to go that route.


@ special edition, I understand you like the carbed cars and muscle theme, but always keep in mind you have a pre 1985 V6 engine in there. IIRC those valve on the heads are sig smaller then post 85 60* engines. Anyone remember if thats correct?
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Old May 18, 2012 | 11:06 PM
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Re: Faster V6?

Originally Posted by project89
any sfcs that fit a v8 car will fit a v6 car, the chassis and ex routing is the same no matter what engine u have
I'm not sure about that... I almost bought a set of SFC, until the set I looked at specifically said it wouldn't work with a V6 car with stock exhaust.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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Re: Faster V6?

the ex routing is the same on v8/v6 cars, the only difference is the ypipe,well that and the v6 cars have smaller ex pipes

but other then that the cats are in the same location and the pipes are in the same location
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Old May 19, 2012 | 07:03 AM
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Re: Faster V6?

I don't have a cat on my car, so I'll try the spohn ones since I have their wanderbar
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Old May 19, 2012 | 08:21 AM
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Re: Faster V6?

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I'm not sure about that... I almost bought a set of SFC, until the set I looked at specifically said it wouldn't work with a V6 car with stock exhaust.
There are sfc's that will not.clear stock exhaust. Others that will. There is nothing diffrent with a v6 car that will prevent the usage of a set of sfc's that would otherwise fit a v8 car.
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Old May 20, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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So I mean like lol I'm not going to change my carb unless its to a 4 bbl and then I need to change my manifold correct?
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Old May 20, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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Re: Faster V6?

Originally Posted by SpecialEditon84
So I mean like lol I'm not going to change my carb unless its to a 4 bbl and then I need to change my manifold correct?
Yep. Edelbrock makes what you need. Not cheap, and not worth the cost. Cheaper to drop in a stock 305 with a stock Q-Jet, unless you can find both the lower and upper Edelbrock parts used, and that's really unlikely. But that's really your only option for not upgrading to EFI. If you are going that route, stick it on a cammed '93-'95 3.4L with Pacesetter headers and Y-pipe for best results.
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Old May 20, 2012 | 02:28 PM
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Re: Faster V6?

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Yep. Edelbrock makes what you need. Not cheap, and not worth the cost. Cheaper to drop in a stock 305 with a stock Q-Jet, unless you can find both the lower and upper Edelbrock parts used, and that's really unlikely. But that's really your only option for not upgrading to EFI. If you are going that route, stick it on a cammed '93-'95 3.4L with Pacesetter headers and Y-pipe for best results.
I mean the only reason I want a 4bbl is for the round air cleaner but I'm currently making one and its coming out really good for my 2bbl. I just don't know how to add more power. lol (chrome valve covers add like 50 hp) lololol
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Old May 20, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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Re: Faster V6?

Those birds that they put on the hood. Add a solid 20HP...
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Old May 20, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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Those birds that they put on the hood. Add a solid 20HP...
Yo man real talk! And the **** for a spoiler on the back basically make the car go.
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