Big Fn mistake.
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From: Los Angeles
Car: 92 Z28 Clone
Engine: Vortec 350
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 Torsen
Big Fn mistake.
I got everything back together after lot of hard work. "3.1 v6 transmission rebuild". So I go to start it up and the starter just spins. I replaced the rear main seal while I had it apart. So I jump the starter directly thinking its just stuck or whatnot and I hear a metallic ding. Aww man I think I put the little spacer on the flexplate backwards. I put the flywheel on first then the little spacer then bolts. I'm pretty sure the little spacer goes on first then the flexplate then bolts. I'm so pissed off man. Someone please tell me how bad I messed up and an easy way to fix it besides pulling the engine and trans again.:
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: Big Fn mistake.
Just drop the trans out, only takes an hr or so.
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Re: Big Fn mistake.
Well I jumped to conclusions like I always do too soon. Turns out I did install everything correctly. I removed my starter and found the S wire touching the bottom starter motor terminal. So I removed and installed again properly but still no go. So I had a spare starter laying around and popped that one in and boom fired right up. Here is an open headers sound clip, timing was still a bit off will upload a better sound clip later on. Now I have to install torque converter to flexplate bolts and fill my trans see how I did on my trans rebuild.
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Car: 92 Z28 Clone
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Axle/Gears: 3.23 Torsen
Re: Big Fn mistake.
Well I was nervous and excited as I poured the ATF in and shifted the trans into reverse, it worked! Next I put it into D and it crept forward
. FIlled it up some more and took it for a spin with open headers, was nervous as it revved up then 2nd kicked in,
, then 3rd kicked in and I was all smiles. My first 700r4 rebuild was successful and I was very pleased. Gonna get my exhaust together and see if 4th kicks in as I didn't get to go fast enough to see if it kicks in. Pretty sure it will.
. FIlled it up some more and took it for a spin with open headers, was nervous as it revved up then 2nd kicked in,
, then 3rd kicked in and I was all smiles. My first 700r4 rebuild was successful and I was very pleased. Gonna get my exhaust together and see if 4th kicks in as I didn't get to go fast enough to see if it kicks in. Pretty sure it will.
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From: Howell, NJ
Car: 94 Camaro
Engine: 3.5 turbo
Transmission: Performabuilt 4l60E
Axle/Gears: Strange rear, 3.42
Re: Big Fn mistake.
Congrats on the rebuild. That's one thing I never attempted. I stay away from transmissions and rear ends.
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Axle/Gears: 3.23 Torsen
Re: Big Fn mistake.
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From: AL
Car: 1985 Firebird
Engine: 3.4 turbo
Transmission: Auto
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Big Fn mistake.
they say you can warp a valve running open headers if it's cold outside. I have no evidence to back this up but I won't be chancing it. So you swapped in a 4l60? I thought a 4l60 was computer controlled? Do you have an aftermarket ecu?
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From: Waterford, MI
Car: 1998 Camaro Z28
Engine: 6.0L
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Re: Big Fn mistake.
4L60 is "basically" the same as the 700R4. 4L60E is different in that it's electronic controlled. GM renamed the 700R4 to the 4L60 in 1990, with some minor changes.
Last edited by drdave88; Nov 28, 2018 at 05:43 AM.
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Re: Big Fn mistake.
From what I have read 4l60 is the same as 700r4 like drdave said. The 4l60e is electronic so you do need an ecu for that one. The two have pretty much all the same parts except for the valve bodys. One electric and the other hydraulic/manual I think is what you would call it. I have a minor issue that has came up with my rebuild. I will be posting in the transmission section. Shifts great through the gears nice and firm. Just sometimes not all the times, there is a hard clunk going into D4. Not all the time just sometimes. May be my surging idle. My tach is not working at the moment so kinda hard to tell. Haven't narrowed it down yet. Will go into further detail in my other post.
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