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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 06:55 AM
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Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
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16 Pound Flywheel

If I understand correctly, the Gm light-weight flywheel came stock on L69 cars. Would that flywheel work well with my current set-up (see sig) and 3.23's. Would it work well with a 350 swap? The car will never see a drag strip.

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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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Car: 83Z28 HO
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Transmission: G Force 5 speed
Axle/Gears: Moser 9" w/Detroit Trutrac
Should work just fine. Works on my 400......
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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Car: 87 IROC
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How would this work compared to my Hays Billet flywheel(30 lbs I believe)?
Would i see better throttle response?
Do you have a part#?
thanks
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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it'll work fine. A little tougher to launch consistently, but a little more throttle response.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 04:59 AM
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I wish I would of went with a lightweight flywheel but i alrdy bought a stock one and had it balanced with my bottom end.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 06:26 AM
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Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
This from GMParts Direct:

GM PART # 14085720
CATEGORY: Engine Flywheel
PACK QTY: 1 CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $211.05
OUR PRICE: $147.74
DESCRIPTION: FLYWHEEL
Outside diameter is 12 3/4" for years 1955-85. Crank Flange bolt pattern: 3.58"; clutch dia.: 10.4"; starter ring gear teeth: 153. Lightweight nodular iron flyweel. Weighs approximately 15 pounds. For two piece crank seal

Any other comments about the appropriateness of this piece for my car would be appreciated.

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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 06:38 AM
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What about for a 1 peice
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
You might do a search if no one kicks in. I recall seeing some part numbers, but since they weren't of personal interest, I blew them off.

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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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Car: 83Z28 HO
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Originally posted by Spdfrk1990
What about for a 1 peice
I don't think it matters whether the crank is a one piece or two piece oil seal crank...

I'd think it does matter if it's internally or externally balnced though.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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Car: 1999 Z28
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305TPI 5speeds had the 16lb flywheel, however 305TBI 5speeds got the heavier 25lb? flywheel

i have tried both, obv the heavier one gave more torque, car revved quicker with the lighter one.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
SLP,

What kind of gearing did/do you have? Which flywheel are you currently running? What's your preference?

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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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3.08 and 3.27 gearing. id use the 16lb one. my car is apart right now but the 16lb wheel will be going back in along with a spec stage II clutch
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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So I should be good to go with 3.23's? Any downsides to the lighter version? Driveability and so on? This is strictly a street-driven car--but I'm always up for a bit more zoom zoom, especially on the highway.

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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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Confuzed I think they bolt up different.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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So i guess if i went with the lighter flywheel after having it balanced with the heavy one ide screw it up?
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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Car: 87 IROC
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this is the info I found on the lightweight ONE piece rear seal flywheel
#14088646 Flywheel
Outside diameter is 12 3/4" for years 1986-up. Crank Flange bolt pattern: 3.00"; clutch dia.: 10.4", 11"; starter ring gear teeth: 153. Lightweight nodular iron flyweel. Weighs approximately 16 pounds. For one-piece crank seal
Hope that helps,
I believe I'll be buying one and selling my Brand new Hays billet..live and learn
Good luck
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 06:46 PM
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Car: 83Z28 HO
Engine: Magnacharged Dart Little M 408
Transmission: G Force 5 speed
Axle/Gears: Moser 9" w/Detroit Trutrac
Originally posted by Brock's91RS
this is the info I found on the lightweight ONE piece rear seal flywheel
#14088646 Flywheel
Outside diameter is 12 3/4" for years 1986-up. Crank Flange bolt pattern: 3.00"; clutch dia.: 10.4", 11"; starter ring gear teeth: 153. Lightweight nodular iron flyweel. Weighs approximately 16 pounds. For one-piece crank seal
Well, I guess there is a difference then - I just don't know what it would be though. I stand corrected! Live and learn...
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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Car: 83Z28 HO
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Transmission: G Force 5 speed
Axle/Gears: Moser 9" w/Detroit Trutrac
Oh, and BTW Spdfrk1990 - Cincy's near and dear to me since I was born/grew up there. Nice to see someone from there on the boards. I still go there for family pretty often... Who Dey!

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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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Cincy is starting to bother me though im rdy to get out of here. Soo does anyone think ill be better off if i use the lighter one even though its been balanced i might just call the company that did it and see what they say. That 25lb er is a lil too heavy I would think the 16lb one would help alot.
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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Axle/Gears: 3.42:1, ???
"The bolt circle on the crankshaft flywheel flange is different. Pre 1986 2 piece RMS is 3.58" and 1 piece RMS cranks have a bolt pattern of 3.00". Also cranks with 1 piece seal require a counterweighted flywheel for proper engine balance"
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 10:12 PM
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question, does the 16 lbs flywheel for 86-up bolt up to LT1 style T56?
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by VILeninDM
question, does the 16 lbs flywheel for 86-up bolt up to LT1 style T56?

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=270645

The LT1 flywheel is deeper than the 85-down 16lb flywheel.

The 86-up 16lb flywheel is functionally identical to the 85-down 16lb flywheel except for bolt pattern and balance.

Therefore, no it does not.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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I run the factory 15/16 lb. flywheel on a dead stock 305 with WC T5 and 3.73's--absolutely no problem off the line and much quicker throttle response. I'll keep it when I switch to 3.23's.
I also have a 36 lb. Hays billet steel flywheel gathering dust--shatterproof, but it made a hot rod '56 'Vette run like it was made out of lead--switched back to a 15 lb. flywheel and it flew.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 10:54 PM
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Has anyone switched from the 25lb to the 16lb and had any balance problems.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by jmd
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=270645

The LT1 flywheel is deeper than the 85-down 16lb flywheel.

The 86-up 16lb flywheel is functionally identical to the 85-down 16lb flywheel except for bolt pattern and balance.

Therefore, no it does not.
i know this from experience :lala: i didnt know it was a t5 flywheel though ruined my clutch, and had to do it all over again, the dish clearance for the diaprham/flywheel bolts is what the problem is, on the t5 its under 1" but on t56 flywheel its 1 1/2"
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