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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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LS1 rear brakes info and part numbers

Hello fellow
F-body enthusiast!<BR><BR>Below you will find a list of the parts with their
corresponding part numbers required to update an F-body <B>10 bolt</B> disc or
drum rear to the 98-up LS1 disc brakes. There are several part numbers and
prices not listed and I will update the chart with them as soon as I get them. I
am estimating $15-$30 for those parts not yet priced. As you can see, the total
price for the conversion will be approx. $550, not including pads. I chose Hawk
HPS pads ($55) to match my 1LE HPS pad up front, but there is a wide range of
prices and different pad mats starting from $30. Also, hooking the parking brake
up to the earlier F-body style will require some fabrication. If you are
upgrading a drum rear, a new prop valve (approx. $50) may be required, depending
on the year of the vehicle. I hope to have pictures up shortly!!<BR><BR>* Please
note that your local dealer may have much higher prices then I have listed, and
most likely will require that the GM parts be order over the web.<BR><BR>**
Stainless steel flex hoses may be substituted for the GM rubber hoses and
slotted rotors may be subst for the solid rotors, but this will add to the cost
of the conversion.<BR><BR>A NOTE ON CALIPERS-These calipers are
<U><B>NEW</B></U> GM/PBR calipers! I have found that the rebuilt units from
parts stores are approx. the same price <U>before</U> they add the core charge!
Since the GM calipers are new, there is no core charged when ordering them. They
also come with the caliper to caliper pin mounting bolts. As an added bonus, the
GM calipers will allow the installation of a 100% new rear braking
system.

There are several very good tech articles on upgrading brakes, including an article on how to modify the drum rear to accept the disc backing plates here: https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/tech/

Also, please visit this thread on thirdgen.org : https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...ght=ls1+brake%


Please scroll down for parts chart
<TABLE border=1>
<TBODY>
<TD><FONT face=Arial>Quantity Req.</FONT></TD>
<TD><FONT face=Arial>Q x Price</FONT></TD>
<TD><FONT face=Arial>Price each</FONT></TD>
<TD><FONT face=Arial>Mfg. </FONT><BR></TD>
<TD><FONT face=Arial>p/n </FONT></TD>
<TD><FONT face=Arial>description</FONT></TD>
<TD><FONT face=Arial>Avail at</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>1</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$60 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$60 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>12455127</FONT></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>LS1 LH rear PBR caliper (NEW-NO CORE
CHARGE)</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>1</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$60 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$60 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>12455128</FONT></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>LS1 RH rear PBR caliper (NEW-NO CORE
CHARGE)</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>1</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$61 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$61 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>10434796</FONT></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>Rear LH backing plate with drum parking
brake shoes</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>1</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$61 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$61 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>10434797</FONT></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>Rear RH backing plate with drum parking
brake shoes</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>2</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$46 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$23 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>12456459</FONT></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>Caliper mounting brackets </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>2</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$34 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$17 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>10424968</FONT></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>Rear parking brake cables</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>1</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$4 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$4 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>10289539</FONT></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>Rear LH parking brake bracket</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>1</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$4 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$4 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>10289540</FONT></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>Rear RH parking brake bracket</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>2</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$48 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$24 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>22163484</FONT> </TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>Rear brake hoses (to calipers) w/ banjo
bolt</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>1</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$0 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>Rear brake hose (chassis to
axle)</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>1</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$0 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>N/A</FONT></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>Prebent LS1 metal brake line (mounted on
axle)</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>Salvage yard</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>4</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$3.75</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$15</FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>12530697</FONT> <BR></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>Caliper guide pins</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>GM</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>2</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$124 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$62 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>Aimco </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>55050</FONT></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>Rear rotors with parking brake
drum</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>AutoZone</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>1</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$15 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$15 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>Brakeware </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>H5927</FONT></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>Anti-rattle pad springs and caliper pin
boots</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>AutoZone</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial size=+1><B>Total</B></FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial size=+1><B>$532 </B></FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=bottom>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>1</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$55 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>$55 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>Hawk</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle><FONT face=Arial>HB250F653</FONT></TD>
<TD align=left><FONT face=Arial>LS1 HPS rear pads</FONT></TD>
<TD align=middle>ThunderRacing.com</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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Last edited by Justins86bird; Dec 18, 2005 at 05:52 PM.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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Cool, Just what I was needing. You wouldnt happen to know the part #'s for the caliper bracket to backing plate bolts would you?
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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Oh, also curious as to where you bought your Hawks Brake Pads for $55.00. Thunder has them for $66.99, anywhere cheaper to get them.........jt

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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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Nice parts list Justins86bird. Has anyone posted a definitive solution to make the LS1 parking brake lines connect to the factory parking brake setup?
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by jtmiller92
Cool, Just what I was needing. You wouldnt happen to know the part #'s for the caliper bracket to backing plate bolts would you?
No, I dont have the p/n for them. I can get the size and then you should be able to buy them at a supply store. IIRC, they are metric 10.9 strength.

The pads I bought awhile back, so the prices may have gone up. At the time, TR was the cheapest.
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