i bought a edelbrock 600 elec. choke to replace my old q-jet elec. choke on my 84 t/a....there are two electrical plug ins for i dont know what on the old q-jet but there arent any on the edelbrock.....what should i do? what are the wires for? do i need them?

if they are emmisions stuff...i went with a non emmisions carb....since im taking all my emmisions off anyways....
ty in advance

 

I would assume those are for some computer controled gizmo, maybe one is the choke. To do that swap..you'll also need a non computer controlled distributer tho.

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No you don't need them they are for the comp. I am assuming you swapped the dist. too.

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you will have to swap the distributor to.and some say you will get a check engine light ,others say no.

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so what if i just remove the computer? will it make things easier??

 

The computer in an 84 controls three things. The fuel mixture solenoid on the carb, the timing advance and the lockup of the torque convertor. The carb you have taken care of. You need a vacuum advance distributer and either a kit for your tranny or a simple sitch to lock the convertor.

 

k guys thanks....now to get the computer out.....heres where i get lost lol

 

Leave the computer in there. It doesn't hurt anything, doesn't weigh that much. Disconnect what you don't use (carb TPS & MCS, 4-wire distributor connector), hook up what you need (choke thermostat, power wire to distributor, TCC lockup switch). Just leave everything else alone and save yourself some other headaches.

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If it helps all the computer wiring comes from the passenger side. All your gauges and actual important wires are from the driver's side harness.

 

I am about to do the same thing. I have a Edelbrock 1405 and performer intake along with a non-computer controlled distributor from a older chevy. My 2 questions are:

1. Will the computer still lock up the converter after I have removed the CC Q-jet?

2. Does it matter if my new distributor is not a vaccume advance unit if so what are the drawbacks of it not having the advance a can.

Thanks for the help in advance!!!!!

 

Be careful with this. I don't know about the LG4 or the L69 but the cross-fire motors the oil pressure wire goes by the comp not through it but around it.


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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT

1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, ASCD SS hood, 16" IROC rims.

future mods:
completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, Hurst shifter, dakota digital gauge package, procharger supercharger.

 

To answer in order,
1. Your Torque Converter lockup will not work without the CC-carb, because the Throttle Position Sensor will not be present. The TC uses this. There's kits available to remedy this.
2. Your CC-distributor will have no advance without the CC-carb, once again because it uses the TPS on the carb.
Usually when you bypass the computer system with these components, you'll get a Check Engine light because the computer is programmed to tell you when there's no references returning from the dist. Although, I have seen one car where the computer basically just shut down when this was performed; but I guess stranger things have happened.

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so basically i need a vacum advance distributor and a kit for the lock-up? and i can just leave the comp in there but not hook anyhting up...correct?

 

what if you have a stick shift? I plan on doing this swap also.
Matt

 

I've done the swap and I should've done this years ago!

I did my first de-computerization of my ghetto-cruiser 1984 Olds 88. It now has an older (1972 Olds) Q-Jet and HEI distributor from a '78 403 TransAm. After I did the usual tweaking and fine tuning, that Olds will snap your neck on takeoff (no EGR, either!).

The smog pump runs full time to the cat converter now, the evap cannister is still working, the exhaust heat riser valve still works, but the TCC doesn't work. Go to the JEGS website. JEGS has a TCC lockup switch kit for non-CCC cars using the TH200-4R and TH700 overdrive transmissions.

So, go for it! That CCC stuff is just cluttering up your car anyway! :-D

 

Hehe, something must be wrong with my car then. I'm running a Holley and a vacuum adv. distributor and the 200C still locks up in 3rd. The computer is still connected but I'm going to unplug it tomorrow to see what happens.
Now, when I unplug that ECM, shouldn't the check engine light go out? it doesn't on mine. A friend of mine asked if the car would start with the computer out, showed him it could, and that's how I found out the engine light stays on. ('82 Z28)

 

In my 86Z the back up lights went through the computer, nothing else of importance