worst tubular K member ever made
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
worst tubular K member ever made
DON'T waste your time w/a performance automotive K member for a 82-92 too long of a story to post but it doesen't fit worth a #$%^!
at least 5 or 6 bad screw ups on thier part
at least 5 or 6 bad screw ups on thier part
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Car: 1992 RS
Engine: 406 Stealth Ram
Transmission: 700R4
Sorry to hear that man. I'm glad I cancelled my order for a PA and waited for a Road Tech K-Member. I hope everything works out for ya. I havent installed it yet, but I'm pretty sure its all gonna bolt up, if it doesnt, someone going to have some explaining to do, lol.
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Well u wanted the story I'll try to keep it short. I ordered my K from raceware a parts outlet that handles PA stuff and it showed up around 5 days later, not bad. I got home from work and started to pull my car apart had a beer then opened the box and saw a chipped up p.o.s. 1st prob. I brought home a engine sling and hung my motor then dropped my stock K and installed the PA K. I started to check spring fit they wouldnt fit in the perch all the way prob 2. I then tried to put in dr side A arm and it rubbed on the main crossbar and the rear mount where they bolt together prob3. I called PA they said they would ship a new one out.cool no prob. Around 2 weeks go by I finally get my new one looks good,so I check springs no fit. A arm same probs as b4
so I install new one anyway to check steering linkage guess what? it rubs the main cross bar and motor mount up rights when the wheel is turned L and R and car is at ride hight prob 4. .
I went ahead and shipped the 1st K back and fixed K #2 myself and then I find out they won't refund my money because it had been installed and chipped up????prob 5 So after many colorful calls I was pissed. FINALLY after abought 6-8 months got them to ship the first one back so now I've got 2 to fix at my cost prob 6. Ya I got the usual excuses your cars been wrecked (NO IT HASN'T) my A arm was bent and the best, the cars are shorter on one side?!?!?!?!?! That is the first prob I ever had w/a parts place EVER. ya a little more to story but ya get the pic. I just got finished helping my friend put the 1st K in his car thats what brought on my hatred again. REMEMBER YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!!!!!!!!
so I install new one anyway to check steering linkage guess what? it rubs the main cross bar and motor mount up rights when the wheel is turned L and R and car is at ride hight prob 4. .
I went ahead and shipped the 1st K back and fixed K #2 myself and then I find out they won't refund my money because it had been installed and chipped up????prob 5 So after many colorful calls I was pissed. FINALLY after abought 6-8 months got them to ship the first one back so now I've got 2 to fix at my cost prob 6. Ya I got the usual excuses your cars been wrecked (NO IT HASN'T) my A arm was bent and the best, the cars are shorter on one side?!?!?!?!?! That is the first prob I ever had w/a parts place EVER. ya a little more to story but ya get the pic. I just got finished helping my friend put the 1st K in his car thats what brought on my hatred again. REMEMBER YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!!!!!!!! Last edited by TTOP350; Feb 24, 2003 at 09:46 PM.
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
OH I for got, I would put on a strut tower brace on the front or it will feel like a wet knoodle if ya don't not PA's falt
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Car: 87 Buick GN
Engine: 3.8L (231 cid) V6
Transmission: 200-4R
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt G80/ 3.42
Ahh, I see. I thought it actually wouldn't fit on the car itself because mine bolted up perfectly. I too had the same problems with the stock A arms rubbing on the cross tube. I ended up getting their tubular A arms sooner than expected and it now fits perfectly.
But yeah, even though PA Racing says the stock A arms will work, they won't. I called PA about it and they said they use a factory K member jig so there isn't any way they could weld it wrong. Well it may not be welded wrong but I think they designed the whole package to use tubular arms and did not take the factory arms into consideration.
Again, I also had the clearance problem with the right side drag link rubbing on the right motor mount bracket. I had to notch it slightly for clearance.
Other than those 2 snags, the whole piece itself is pretty solid and I haven't had any durability problems so far.
But yeah, even though PA Racing says the stock A arms will work, they won't. I called PA about it and they said they use a factory K member jig so there isn't any way they could weld it wrong. Well it may not be welded wrong but I think they designed the whole package to use tubular arms and did not take the factory arms into consideration.
Again, I also had the clearance problem with the right side drag link rubbing on the right motor mount bracket. I had to notch it slightly for clearance.
Other than those 2 snags, the whole piece itself is pretty solid and I haven't had any durability problems so far.
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
I have been doing this stuff 4 a living 4 14 years and I know the defintion of performance part is it "doesn't fit". This K member had powdercoating flaking off it really no big deal but why would they ship out a product coated that has to be ground on, cut apart and stretched 3/8" so A arm will fit with out a major bind.
I measured all my A arms I had lying around 6 pair and every one was within a 16th of an inch, my friends car too. Both K members I have were the same. DR side was 3/8"inch to short and about 3/16 to far forward where the A arm bolts to K member. there is room on the car where the K rear bolt is to move it back 1/2" if needed if my memory serves me right. not trying to run this into the ground just had to vent.
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I measured all my A arms I had lying around 6 pair and every one was within a 16th of an inch, my friends car too. Both K members I have were the same. DR side was 3/8"inch to short and about 3/16 to far forward where the A arm bolts to K member. there is room on the car where the K rear bolt is to move it back 1/2" if needed if my memory serves me right. not trying to run this into the ground just had to vent.
thanks for all replies
Originally posted by IROCZZ3
But yeah, even though PA Racing says the stock A arms will work, they won't.
But yeah, even though PA Racing says the stock A arms will work, they won't.
You wanna hear about "junk" k-members? Go the mustang boards and ask them about junk k-members. They'll give you a very loooooooong list and the best ones are either built by AJE or PA
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From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
First off I'm not trying to be an a$$ it's just that when i called to tell them they needed to move dr side A arm back a little they started to get mouthy and give a bunch of excuses. I wasn't brought up like that . Anyway I had my car on a frame rack a couple years ago b4 I but on sfc's( my friend has a body shop)and it was as strait as it could be. The main prob I had had nothing to do w/a strait frame it was the A arm mount was to narrow front to rear on dr side (the arm rubbed bad front and rear of K ) causing th suspention to bind when you hit a bump ,it just didn't move freely like the pass side. If you have stock A arms go out in your garage and try to push your car up and down then do it on the pass side and you'll see what i mean. I have put in a bunch of K members in must and f body some are better some are worse this just happed to b my idea of very bad. I have never had to cut one up ( untill we got ours ) I couldn't use coilovers and tubular A arms like I wanted because i run 96 ram air rims on the street (spring would rub tire). I talked to aje at gateway in stl one year and he said he didn't recomend using stock springs and tubular A arms don't remember y 4 sure don't think he had done enough development work on them yet.
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