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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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NHRA: New TTop rule

I wana know if you mods can make this a sticky for a little while... New rules from the NHRA about ttops. if you run faster then 13.99 you need a roll bar. If you run faster then 10.99 you need a cage and you need a 5pt. basicly now vert rules apply to ttop cars. They ruled that the TTop is an open cockpit car.

LS1tech---NHRA's new TTop rule.
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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So a stock LS1 needs a roll bar??? Guess I won't be taking mine back to the track.
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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only at NHRA tracks.. i think IHRA too... time for atco.
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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quote from a guy on corvetteforum.com:
I just got off the phone with John Miller Tech Service Rep for NHRA National Headquarters , in Glendora Cal. and he stated
" At this time there is no change to the glass/t-top rules, they will be considered a coupe and require a roll bar at 11.99, same as in the past"
He did tell me this was discussed at this past Tuesday rules meeting but no changes will be made now or in the near future.
So everyone relax, it's business as usual.
And a reply from somebody else:
You are correct. THIS IS NOT A NEW NHRA RULE!!! Ths was enforced at a track in Houston recently though (HRP) HRP was enforcing that t top cars running faster than 14.0 must have a roll cage. This was not a NHRA rule, they were enforcing this FOR THEIR OWN INSURANCE REASONS. Please do not get paranoid, unless you race at HRP you have nothing to worry about...

The link for those who are registered there:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zero...&id=1544924843
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 04:22 PM
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now it gives some people an exuse to stiffen up the chassie now.
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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Madmax beat me to it but it is not a manditory rule. One track decides to have the rule because of insurance reasons then they can have their own rules. It's no different than the helmet rule. NHRA says you need a helmet if running quicker than 13.99. Many tracks say you need a helmet at all speeds because of insurance reasons.

Personally I can't seen them forcing all the t-top cars to get a roll bar even if the run 12-13 seconds. There's too many street cars that just won't go to the track if they have to do major fabrication like that.
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by madmax
shrug

figures it's the track I race at....


guess I'll be running 1/8 mile for a while.

Last edited by TexasLT1; Aug 21, 2003 at 09:37 PM.
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Stephen 87 IROC
Madmax beat me to it but it is not a manditory rule. One track decides to have the rule because of insurance reasons then they can have their own rules. It's no different than the helmet rule. NHRA says you need a helmet if running quicker than 13.99. Many tracks say you need a helmet at all speeds because of insurance reasons.

Personally I can't seen them forcing all the t-top cars to get a roll bar even if the run 12-13 seconds. There's too many street cars that just won't go to the track if they have to do major fabrication like that.
Stephen, you are up on these things, did this come about from a recent accident or something? Just curious why the sudden change?
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by BuckeyeROC
Stephen, you are up on these things, did this come about from a recent accident or something? Just curious why the sudden change?
I frequent many race forums I think that dragstrip just enforced it because of legal issues from an insurance company. The cost of liability has skyrocketed in the last year and many race tracks are finding it hard to pay the high premiums. If a track can get a lower premium by changing their safety requirements then I can see them saying that all t-top cars will need a roll bar similar to convertibles.

I just heard about it a couple of days ago and a retraction yesterday about being only at one dragstrip. I'm sure if there's anything going to change soon, NHRA will post it on their web site and/or in the Digger (National Dragster).
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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Why do dragstrips need insurance? Last time I went to the track, they made everyone sign a waiver, whether to race or watch. It said, in so many words that if you die, it's your own fault and/or the track's not responsible. that's the way it ought to be.

Lousy insurance companies...
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 07:46 PM
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Liability insurance. It doesn't protect you because you signed the waiver but it protects the track, track crew and spectators.
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Old Sep 14, 2003 | 11:42 PM
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This post almost scared the crap outa me!! What a relief when I read on!!

Concerning tracks and insurance:
Saturday at Silver Dollar in Reynolds, GA a high 5 sec 1/8th mile car (early mopar running a BBChevy) overran at the top end when his chute and possibly his brakes failed. He not only ruined his car, but hit a few motor homes at the end. The driver got away with minor burns to his nose and chin. Anyway, the reason I'm saying all this is: Who - if anybody- pays the person whose camper got destroyed? The track, the driver, or noone??
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 02:23 AM
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they need to have the tracks open more often for street night. itd save me a lot of speeding ticket money, that could go towards mods.
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by 89Formula350WS6
Who - if anybody- pays the person whose camper got destroyed? The track, the driver, or noone??
You sign a waiver when you enter the track. Stop and read it.
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back to the original topic of this thread.....

the NHRA stated that it is not going to change its rules on T-top cars and they are NOT considered convertibles, hence the roll bar is required at 11.99 like all other cars.

This was printed in last weeks National Dragster.
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