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Old May 17, 2002 | 03:52 PM
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anybody have nos with there v6????

if you got a six runnin on the bottle post some pics please and if you lookin to get nos talk to nitrous extreme they said they would make a custom plate for my 2.8 just need to send them a carb gasket they say av about 25 hp a cylinder
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Old May 17, 2002 | 03:59 PM
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If I was getting nos, why would I talk to nitrous extreme?
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Old May 17, 2002 | 11:23 PM
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You're kidding, right?
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Old May 17, 2002 | 11:34 PM
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If I was getting nos, why would I talk to nitrous extreme?
Considering they're 2 different companies.
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Old May 18, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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hehehehehehe if i want nos ill talk to nos (nos = nitrous oxide company or osmehting like that) i think we all know hes referring to n20 in general.
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Old May 18, 2002 | 03:45 PM
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Actually NOS does make a rather nice set up for our V-6.
Uses flex hose, adaptable for many engines.
Adds about 1/2" height under fuel injector.
May, may not work for our V-6.
I can't afford the "Let's Experiment $$" tag of $500.
I'd rather invest the $500 into a sure thing 3.4 w/low milage for $900, like I just did.
I have V-8 cars for HP wars.
I love 3.4's under the hood instead of 2.8's.
NOS etc, nice, but... $$$.
IT is a worthwhile item, tho.
NOS=Best power investment (a final choice for easy HP & a sure thing).
What else for $500 can you add 50-125 easy HP?
ONLY if your foundation IS STRONG, do it.
These wimpy 60*, do blow up easy
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Old May 19, 2002 | 04:38 PM
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A wise man once told me:
"NOS is like a tampon.....every pu$$y has one."

no american car should turn to the bottle........
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Old May 19, 2002 | 09:32 PM
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Re: anybody have nos with there v6????

Originally posted by junkie
if you got a six runnin on the bottle post some pics please and if you lookin to get nos talk to nitrous extreme they said they would make a custom plate for my 2.8 just need to send them a carb gasket they say av about 25 hp a cylinder
are u talkin for a carbed v6???

cos if its a FI v6 then i would just get a single stage Wet Kit and put the fogger just before teh TB (plastic pipe after the MAF) and also install a throttle switch, NOS activate switch and another master switch..just to be safe...

with the DRY kit i think ull also need a AFPR..
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Old May 20, 2002 | 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Camaro87SC
A wise man once told me:
"NOS is like a tampon.....every pu$$y has one."

no american car should turn to the bottle........
HAHAHA, you're ridiculous. Please explain to me why. Do you feel "cool" saying that? I bet I can guess another one of your phrases! "You've got nitrous? Bottles are for babies." Is that why the "big $$ racers" use nitrous? You must be a hell of an experienced racer and engine builder! So if you met Pat Musi, face-to-face, you'd call him a pu$$y? I'd love to see that one. How bout Billy Glidden? Did you know the American military used Nitrous on their prop planes, during WWI? (Or was it WWII?)

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Old May 20, 2002 | 03:26 PM
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nah i dont feel cool saying that..........it's just the fact that ever since fast and the furious came out everyone thinks nos is how to supe up your engine.......lemme guess.....you were one of the "cool" people who went out and bought a NOS tank w/out even knowing wat it is......more complicated than sticking a tube in your engine......if your not racing for your career like professionally, then yes your a pu$$y....that damn movie has everyone sticking nos in every teenager's mommy's toyota camrys and thinking they know everything from watching that 2 hr waste of time.....(i will admit Dom's father's car gave me goosebumps).....here's the real way to have a fast car.....rebuild an engine the real way.....buy a crate engine or scour junkyards for that small block......don't attach an air tank to your honda and call yourself a car guy.......damn.....the founders of the hemi must be rolling over in their grave.....

......by the way.....i didn't know of that saying........thanks i got another..........
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Old May 20, 2002 | 03:47 PM
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Actually it was the GERMANS who used NOS AND SUPERCHARGERS on their Prop planes.
Germans beat the crap outta US planes, they were quick & agile, as Germans were used to that atmosphere they were flying in (power & speed.

BUT,
American had Werner Van Bruen Father of the Jet engine.

TOWARDS THE END OF WW2, Van Bruen defected to USA.
We JUST started using the NOS & SUPERCHARGER ideas on our prop planes as JET were introduced to the WW2 war ampitheatre.
Then the Europe war ended.
Then Japan war ended.
NOS is away cool way to add quick HP.
IF ya foolish to think anyone that adds close to 100HP at a flick of a finger is a pu$$y,
that's really sad.
Then to continue arguing...
Shame you guys didn't grow up in the 60's.
Engines got bigger, cars got faster and the skirts kept getting shorter!
Great life for a 12 year old like me!
I still can't believe some people are saying they proud to be fixing up a japanese car and think it's cool.
Sad.
That's from one that owned a 1966 Corvette as his High School car (1972-1976).
G0D, argue about how you almost beat a 1970 Hemi Superbird, last night.
Something worth a battle scar.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by Camaro87SC
lemme guess.....you were one of the "cool" people who went out and bought a NOS tank w/out even knowing wat it is......
I'm -far- from that guy; thanks. I just noticed that you're new here so you probably haven't read my messages yet. But I haven't even put the juice on my car. I can tell you tho, if it's between spending $5000 on a custom super/turbocharger for this 2.8, or putting the squeeze on it; I'll be buying the NOS dry system. Even if you "build" a 2.8 the "right way", you'll never get HP as easily as with the nitrous.

What's the difference between racing professionally with nitrous, and racing non-professionally? I see none. Nitrous is nitrous, and someone that puts NO2 on an unprepared motor will learn life's lessons the hard way. Not everyone using nitrous has seen fast & furious- I haven't even seen the movie yet, and Nitrous has been out for much longer than that movie. (And if you haven't heard that saying yet, then how long have YOU been around?) But hey, if you see nitrous usage as "cheating", then I'd pay to see you call Tony Christian a cheater. Go for it!

Man, we've got people that talk about turbocharging and never do it, then you've got people that cry about nitrous usage.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 03:56 PM
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Oh, it was the other way around then, eh? I knew we used Nitrous because the german planes were faster, but I didn't know the germans had the nitrous first. Oops! Oh well, the point's still valid, haha.

I'm all for a larger engine; you guys know that. But to say nitrous users are pus's is a blanket, ignorant statement. Why not go on to say that guys with superchargers are pus's? Both are power adders. One costs $500, the other costs $2000. Both will beat a n/a car of the same displacement. So why is nitrous looked down on? Because it's cheaper? Lets use that same thought on turbochargers! They're faster than superchargers, so people that use turbochargers would also be pus's, because that would mean that they're cheating.

But I do admit I haven't had my share of coffee today, and am probably a bit short fused!
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Old May 20, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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lemme guess.....your just one of those people who have to always be rite.......listen......if you race professionally for NHRA or another racing organization......it's your job to pump as many horses out of your car in as many ways as possible.......however......a 16 year old w/ mommy and daddy's money putting a nos tank in the camry that they gave to them.......is a puss........as far as the war topic goes.......thats a totally different subject......if it helps us win a war i'm all for it.......back to CARS.....superchargers i'm not a fan of either......i know people who put them in their SUVs then challenge me to race.......woah....tuff guy challenging the stock 2.8......(lol).....i'm one of those people who would rather spend time and effort in the garage w/ a few tools manually squeezing as many horses as possible then buy a NOS system and beat the hell out of my 1.,9 ltr chic car......i'll just leave you w/ this thought......which would u rather cruize around in.... ...a HEMI 'Couda or a Honda Civic buzzing w/ a tank of NOS........i'm strong w/ my point.......:rockon:
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Old May 20, 2002 | 05:37 PM
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No, but I'm against any benchracing BS that I hear. And I was never talking about putting nitrous in an import; I guess we're talking about different things. Imagine a Hemi with nitrous! ( See "Father's Day Auction": http://www.motortrend.com/news/briefs/nb_020401.html )
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Old May 20, 2002 | 06:48 PM
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A hemi w/ nos??.....ohh man now that's just demeaning......that's like sticking a rocket up a cheetah's a$$........although it would be one crazy trip i'll stick w/ the natural 442
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Old May 20, 2002 | 08:22 PM
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Its really no suprise to hear someone coming down on nitrous oxide. I bet you dont have it. I bring close to 400 ft lb to the table and stomp v8's with my 2.8 and I love the juice.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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hmmm...whats a hemi 'Couda? ive heard of hemi 'cudas tho...
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Old May 20, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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damn you guys are nuts.....what is fast and furious anyways?????? ill tell you this too im not no teenager and i did say camaro not camry right???? and i have a 350 already ...so if i blow up the six...i blow up the six WHOOPIE!!! I GIVE A DAMN...
but for quick easy hp for a 2.8 go nos ..by the way have you tried looking for performance upgrades for a 2.8????if you find anything other than a k&n air filter let me know ok???
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Old May 20, 2002 | 10:04 PM
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id say go for it...

a wet shot might be better than a dry shot as the AFPR doesnt have to come in..

also try the 50 shot at first and i dont think a 100 shot will be good on our engines..

bottom line is no matter what u run if u won, u won thats it

hey 614streets...how much hp are u pusihing in that s10???do u still own the s10?
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Old May 20, 2002 | 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by 89camaroRSV6
id say go for it...

a wet shot might be better than a dry shot as the AFPR doesnt have to come in..

also try the 50 shot at first and i dont think a 100 shot will be good on our engines..

bottom line is no matter what u run if u won, u won thats it

hey 614streets...how much hp are u pusihing in that s10???do u still own the s10?
It'll run 13's on a 75 shot. I am building up the motor with the supercharger and a huge lazer custom cam as well as a commander 950 ecu lap top controlled with headman true headers. Once its built it should turn low 12's/ high11's.
Thats on a ext cab s10.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 10:53 PM
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nice!!!!!!!
i remember seeing ur ride a long time ago on gmforums.org

are u still on stock internals and is it a wet shot???
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Old May 20, 2002 | 11:31 PM
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Wet kit tbi 5153 from nos , plate system , adjustable. Stock internals for now yup. Forged internals when I build it up.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 11:49 PM
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did u get that Supercharger that u got to work??

i think it was a wierd make ...the company shut down or something

i was lookin for a wet kit for the MPFI with a single fogger nozzle ...on ebay...well i lost

anyways the auction went over 450 and i didnt wanna bid anymore

i think mostly all wet kits with single fogger nozzles will work on the MPFI models
(correct me if im wrong)
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Old May 20, 2002 | 11:59 PM
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The blower isnt on ..yet
Yup for mpfi any wet kit nossle system will work just fine.
Buy a kit and jet it to 50 to 75 , you'll love it. Just dont buy a Zex kit. They suck.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 12:20 AM
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really,,whats wrong with ZEX


on ebay ..u can find a NX kit for 450 buy price
with everything
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Old May 21, 2002 | 01:30 AM
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Zex kits dont supply anything in the hp department. 75 jetting might yeild 35 hp. They are like for ricers. Yeah buy a wet kit you'll have a ball , I can tell you how to tune it just right also.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by junkie
but for quick easy hp for a 2.8 go nos
Glad to hear you're not a Fast&Furious "spawn"! But nos is a manufacturer of nitrous oxide systems... so Nitrous Express doesn't sell nos; the company nos will sell nos. Nitrous Express sells Nitrous Express. That's all I'm joking with you for!

http://www.nosnitrous.com
http://www.compucarnitrous.com
http://www.edelbrock.com (makes nitrous kits now)
http://www.nitrousexpress.com (weren't they nx.com a few years ago?)
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Old May 21, 2002 | 03:28 PM
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but for quick easy hp for a 2.8 go nos ..by the way have you tried looking for performance upgrades for a 2.8????if you find anything other than a k&n air filter let me know ok???
i heard about this this thing called a 2030 cam...does that count?
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Old May 21, 2002 | 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by camaro-mayhem


i heard about this this thing called a 2030 cam...does that count?
Actually there are ALOT better cams out there. You can spend 170 for a cam and lifters from crane, or spend 180 and get a cam, lifter, push rods, springs, retainers, and maybe a few other goodies from Crower. Not to mention ALOT meaner profiles to choose from. And yes STILL COMP freindly.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 04:37 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TomP
But nos is a manufacturer of nitrous oxide systems... so Nitrous Express doesn't sell nos; the company nos will sell nos. Nitrous Express sells Nitrous Express.


NOS stands for Nitrous Oxide System so obviously Nitrous Express doesn't sell NOS
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Old May 21, 2002 | 04:46 PM
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yeah i ran a 250 shot of NOS
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Old May 22, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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bottom line - crower is better when u rebuild

crane 2030 is better when u are just swapping a cam..(this is what i did)

but crower is a better deal for the $$$ ...but too much work unless the engine is already apart

DRKTEALV6BRD...yea right i ran a 500 SHOT
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Old May 22, 2002 | 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Camaro87SC
NOS stands for Nitrous Oxide System so obviously Nitrous Express doesn't sell NOS
Right! (Read the first message of this thread, you'll see why I wrote that)
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Old May 22, 2002 | 03:00 PM
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Heheheheh! What else can I say?? you guys trip me out! NOS on a v6? wow, i really have heard it all now...
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Old May 22, 2002 | 03:18 PM
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Man, nobody reads; NOS is a company that makes Nitrous Oxide systems for cars. Your message should read "Nitrous on a V6?" Did you think that systems were only available for v8's?
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Old May 23, 2002 | 10:14 PM
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NOS is a brand of N2O by Holley

tom p did you ever live in dundalk? i think i know who u r...
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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:31 PM
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Hey TomP, NOS is a BRAND NAME...DUH!!!


haha, just bustin' your ***, don't worry, I read and got the joke the FIRST time, not the fiftieth. lol.....I bet someone will STILL miss it....
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Old May 24, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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LOL, Azure!

And RPS, I think I answered this in another message, but; No, never lived there. You said that's in MD, right? I've been in Jersey all my life. Sometimes they let me out of the state, but I've gotta sign a ton of paperwork!
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