Well Now this is ridiculous. Im Bitching here cause I have to. Anyway I brought my car to the body shop on July tenth for a paint job. I did the body work, I stripped the car of everything as in, mirrors, door handels, door lock cylinders, tail lights headlights, turn signals, all the bezels and such, well you get the drift. They didint have a hell of alot to do. Its September 11th and my car was finally ready for pickup.....3 months later. Guess what? I go to grab it and give it the once over an low and behold the damn thing is one big orange peel with crap stuck in the clear coat theres no luster. Basically its a horrible paint job. So to make a long story short. I went the whole summer without the car hoping to have at least a couple of weeks left of driving enjoyment.......but thats been taken away as well.....cause I refused to accept the car.

Later guys

 

It wasn't a maaco job was it?

 

Wow, I would be so pissed too. I doubt it was Maaco, they would have a lot faster turn over than 3 months.

 

DAMN...thats a long wait...I would've complained a long time ago bout getting my sh** done sooner. 3 months seems too long with an already a stripped body. I wouldnt take the car til it was complete...seems like a half *** job to me.

 

Macco nope. It was GM belieave it or not. I saw some of there work and the price was surprising. I was told dont worry youll have an awesome job. So I didint break anyones ***** about the wait cause If I did I figured Id end up witht he job I eneded up with.....if that makes any sense

 

Blama canada

 

I am no paint expert, but the paint can only be as good as the prep work. Prep work is one of the most important steps in the painting process. I am sure that you did the prep work right. A lot of body shops in my home town prefer the customer not do thier own prep work. This way the body shop is 100% liable for a bad paint job and they can't blame you. I am planning on having my body and paint work done by the same people. It will cost me a bit more, but I would like to have work done right.

I can't believe that a GM dealer bodyshop gave you a shabby job. What do you plan on doing?

 

Well the deal included them doing the prep work. I just did all the heavy work. Like welding in all the new metal. I also bodyfilled the new metal. Basically I did the grunt work and they were to do the final touch ups, like smooth out my body work and fix up the contours. All in all it was not much to do. They actually told me not to sand the car cause they wanted to do that part. So there was no body work for them as far as replacing and fabricating is concerned. They just smoothed out my work and preped it. What do I plan to do? Well I left the car there and Im not taking it untill its done right. It doesint take a Gearhead to figutre out its a **** job. I brought my wife with me and she picked all the flaws out with no trouble at all. Im really quite pissed at this point

 

heres some pics

 

Since you did not actually do the prep work and they did, that changes everything. I can't believe they would let you pick up your car with such an obvious paint flaw. Most body shops I know of would take the initiative to bring the car back into the shop to get it right before saying it was finished. 3 months is a hell of a long time for that paint job. I hope you don't have to pay for that paint job. The least they could do is fix it.

 

Ok, I am seeing the picture now. That is horrible. The 16 year old faded paint on my hood looks better than that. I would have a serious talk with the manager.

 

I have no Idea what is good prep and what isisnt. Im sure, or at least I hope that was not the final stage of the prep. The paint right now has a thousands of little dust things in it. At first I thought it was mettalic cause its every where. Theres runs in the paint and the Orange peel....you can feel it in some places. Is the orange peel in the paint or in the clear? Also what causes it cause Id like some aminition when I talk to the boss. Id like him to think I know what im talking about.

 

Some body work

 

Some of the damage

 

More Damage

 

More work

 

More stuff

 

I just noticed that you live in Canada. That may or may not have something to do with your problem. Orange peel usually shows up in the paint because of poor preperation. Sounds like they did not fine sand the body or something. I like I said earlier, I am no expert. The problem could also be with the paint itself. Looks as if they used a flat finish.

 

This is the said truth. I worked in body shop for many years and still do custom paint work at my own shop. You just don't make enough money on repaints and rust work. I can make three times as much money fixing the front clip of A VW then I can repainting a complete camaro and have a fifth the amount of time into it. So what happens at most shops is your car becomes filler work for down slow times because they can make more money on something else. They only way to get it done quick is by paying for it. I don't know what you paid but with what you said I would be charging around 3500-4000. But i would also have it done within 2 weeks and shine like a mirror. My last restoration on just the body of a firebird cost the owner almost 11,000 and that didn't include parts or paint. But it has won numerous awards, is straight as an arrow and you can see a few miles deep in the paint, new factory quarters ect. Be happy I worked at one shop for two years and during that time we had four restoration projects in the back room when I started. When I left all four were still in the back room, Why the owner could make more money doing other things, we could only work on them when it was dead. I understand the length of time, even though it should of just been a week or two but no matter what they should make the car look sweet. They have no reason for the car looking like an orange. You think with the wait they would of given it the white glove treatment, I would of. You said it was a Gm body shop. A dealership? If so most painters in dealerships don't have to lay down flat jobs or buff the car smooth. Why, because they mostly work on factory new cars, a few years old and they all have peel have you seen some of the new factory jobs, they are sick. The painter sets his gun, uses his products day after day to match this look and either dosen't want to , dosen't have the time or just can't make the changes. Your situation sucks, but you can demand that they wet sand and buff the car, to get the peel out. This is but happens alot, and if you don't say anything they will not fix it, so get them to fix it.
Extreme

 

Those pics are just the sanded primer. But the color code used is 81U which is bright red for 1987. Well Ill tell you.....its not bright right now.

 

I figured it was going to be the down time car. and I said to myself that if its taking 3 months then it better be sweet so I kept my mouth shut.....only to recieave a swift kick in the *****. I know what your saying about prices and the like. But if a shop quotes you a price and says the car will look amazing, then its there responsibility to make sure of that. I love that car and I want it to look amazing. I know the difference between a really good looking car and a show car. I just want a really good looking car. I could not afford to pay $11,000 for the paint job. But I do know what kind of job that would be. But really there is no excuse for major blemishes and crap in the paint.

 

I would get them to do it over quick......get on their case and make sure to tell them if they don't do it right you will be taking legal action........

 

That is just sick man. How much did you pay?

Back in 2000, I paid 1300 for a show-car shine job on my old 92 firebird. The car looked like it had just rolled off the factory conveyor belt already waxed. all in 3 weeks.

If they don't get their butts in gear and really do a nice job...legal action. Also, consider getting some kind of gaurantee in writing about how long the paint will look like it should. would suck to have a great paintjob and have the paint flake off in 4 months.

 

that is very long to wait and its a shame that it looks the way it does...

 

Oh....HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL no.....believe you me, I'd march my unhappy little *** right back up there and put someone's hide in a sling.

Dang, I nearly killed the dealership for putting a palm dent in my hood (which they FIXED though they weren't happy) if the paint shop screwed me over like that I'd maim someone.

It's unacceptable what they did to your car and I hope you intend to make them fix it. *goes off and rants more about ****ty shops that take 3 months to paint a car and cant even do it right with that much time!!*

Just.....screw them all! It's an embarassment and the shop should be ASHAMED that they gave you your Bird back in such a state!

 

I can tell you this. My Bird is still there. The second in comand over there came out to have a look. (The Boss wont be back till Monday) He was speechless. They no I know what Im talking about so theres no pulling a fast one. Its a great job if it was costing me $150.00 All they had to do was litterly apply some filler, smooth out some existing filler and paint it. Thats it. Theres no way its coming home untill its proper. Im just so pissed that I blew such a great summer away. Hell they can keep it till May at this point. I just dont understand how anyone can let the car go looking like that. Its one of those things you have to see for real. A picture would not show off enough detail. The paint is just riddeled with debris.

 

Man, when the shop fixed my car after my accident, they didn't prep it well, so a little while after it was repainted on the replaced panels.....paint was peeling and it just wasnt right....I went back in a little bit after that and had the driver's side door and fender painted - they turned out a COMPLETELY different shade of silver than the previous job. I wasnt happy.


When I took it BACK up there for the REST of the car to be painted, well, now I had to wait 4 weeks, but they did it RIGHT.

They saw that the paint wasnt going to match, and that it wasnt the best work they could do so by dammit they redid nearly everything. All but the nose and the hood were repainted and at no extra charge (warranty on some parts).

NOT TO MENTION: that particular shop has realized how FUSSY I am. (I plan to work there one day, too) I drove past that shop *every* day for four weeks to see where their progress was with it.

The job was 1700 and while it isnt a show car it's still the best third gen Camaro I've seen in my area.

 

So how long is it supposed to take them to repaint your car now?

 

Not sure when the car will be done at this point. I have not spoken with the boss yet. My fear is that they will say there not going to do a thing about it. I hope thats not the case. Like I said they can have it till May now. I wont be driving it in the crap months. Its usually off the road in October.

 

September 11th ? sounds like a terrorist act on you paint job. BTW what kinda paint did they use?

 

The Paint was R&M Base/Clear code 81U which is Bright Red

 

Dear G0d....


I would DEFINITELY make them do something about it. Put your foot down and stand your ground and DEMAND that the car looks better than it did before you brought it to them the first time.

 

edge,

i kinda am/was in your sit..i took my car to get painted and it costed me $2500 (i live in canada as well) when i went to pic it up i was flabbergasted...it looked amazing..BUT that was only cuz the sun was almost down and i couldnt see any imperfections...the next day my mom came home looked at my car and said ahh what happened to your car...i almost flipped i thought someone did something to it.. i went outside and looked at it...it was chipping and cracking and there was runs everywhere and it even had orange peel...i have been in constant contact with the guy that did this and nothing has happened...so if nothing gets done he isnt getting his $500 that i owe him...but seriously take legal action if its not done right

which place in toronto did you go to..just so i dont end up going there when i get my car repainted...

iroc2nv

 

wait those pics are painted? Ouch. Fight it, I know I would. Seriously, I had to re read that to make sure that was the paint job because it looked like my car did with the sanded down 1984 red paint.

 

No...No...No thats not the paint job. Thats the primer coat. I just posted them as work in progress. The colour is the same as the pic with the car being welded. But the paint in that pic looks a 1000 times better than it does now. Its amazing before I had rust around the skirts. Now the rust is fixed and the car lloks worse than ever

 

You oughtta try and get some pics of what the car looks like now

 

If they have any sort of decency or pride in their business then they will fix it WITHOUT giving you ANY hassle at all.


Bring it down here, I'll take you to the shop I went to, they do good work : D