I have a total of 450. smackers for a set of headers...what can I get for that price? I want them coated and no air!......as I have removed all my smog crap....

My setup is in my sig.........as we speak Im adding an LT1 cam, 1.6 roller rockers...I just need the headers and I can put everything back together. .......

give me some suggestions...I want to spend my money...

thanks!

 

Id go with the Hedmanns....You can get there "Elite" series for like $259. But, you might have to have a custom Ypipe made....but that shouldnt be more than about $100 or so. I think you can get the Hedmann 68481 for about $475 with the Ypipe through JetHot....I think.

 

What is so BAD about the Headmen Y pipe? I dont know much about Y pipe but I have read that in some other posts.....My max is 450 no more...Im all tapped out...

 

I dont know to be honest....Ive read on here where some people have problems...and some dont. I think it may be an issue of motor mounts..sagging springs or something like that.....just like some people have problems with the SLP headers and some dont. I think it would be fine....might have to persuade it a little.

 

get a set of summit shorties for $80 and buy some other stuff to add to you car. Then have someone coat them for ya for cheap.

 

The Elite headers are the same and the non-smog headers only coated and thicker flange.. but still will bolt up to the y pipe they make. Im 99% positive of that. The y pipe isnt coated, and you can always get that done by someone. There are a couple of members of this site that do coating... PM TPI383 for info cause i know i have talked to him, and his pricing is very good.

 

thats the headers Im looking at but why has the Headmen Y pipe gotten such bad reveiws? whats wrong with it?

 

Where the two sides come together it's 2-1/2". To fit a 3" converter, they include an adapter to go from smaller to bigger. Basically, it builds in a restriction.

From what I understand...

 

but its still WAY! better than stock? right? Those headers will still produce alot more power/HP?

 

I had a similar budjet when I bought my headers last year. I got a set of coated flowtechs from www.yearone.com for $369 (- shipping) and they were what I wanted. The y-pipe was a little smaller and the primaries were only 1.5" but they fit the budjet, were coated, had an 02 bung, and most importantly they didn't have emmisions. But I warn you. My Flowtechs came with a bent header flange which made it hard to install. I think the quality on these headers varies from set to set. And I certainly had a bad set. Made me very angry. I got the header flange to seal but the collectors have yet to stop leaking to this day. Some people praise them others despise them. When I buy headers for my '95 Z I am saving for the absolute best set that may run me a grand, but trust me, you get what you pay for.

 

not to flame you, but coating flowtechs is like buying candy coated sh*t... Flowtechs are crap for everything except out of tune 305's or smaller.

 

Look to my avatar for what I think about Flowtechs......:lala:

 

Buy a set of non coated SLP's , they are reg price 400, and some vendors you can get em for around 375 uncoated, you'd be better off buying them than some coated pieces of junk.

 

Well put.....couldnt have said it better myself

 

guess some of you guys dont like the summit brand eh lol, they work great for me, i would never pay like $400 for headers no sir.

 

Yeah but SLP's dont come without air, do they? I dont want to mess around with having to cut the tubes off and plugging them...I can get some 1 3/4 SLp and the install kit for around 400 but thats with tubes and uncoated....plus I dont think 1 3/4 work well with the 305's, do they?

 

You can get coated or non coated 1 5/8 SLP's with or without AIR. Go to www.slponline.com and check them out......

 

I too hate my flowtechs but I got them for a pretty good deal. They already came coated so it's not like I sent them out. ALso yes they are small but 1.5" primaries can still support a lot of power. If you are on a strict budjet chances are you won't have a combo that will benifit from better headers.

 

SO the best I can possibly get for the money I have would be the "elite" Headmens? cause thats the whole package, (Y-pipe, install kit, coated)

 

Theres about 20 diff sets of 3rd gen SLP headers available, just about any of the following choices is avail in a set of headers from them.

1. 1 5/8 or 1 3/4
2. Single or Dual cat
3. AIR or No AIR
4. Coated or Non

Just buy the quality headers once and be done with it, dont goof around with those other piece together deals.

 

You want coated, therefore your budget will be stretched. The Hedman 68478's are $260 plus s/h, and you'll need to get your y-pipe modified to hook them up. I don't see any indication that the Hedman 17470 y-pipe will fit those headers.

An alternative would be to call Jet Hot and see if they'll sell you some coated Hedman 68470 to which you can hook the $100 Hedman 17470 y-pipe. Jet Hot will probably want around $270 for the headers.

Assuming you still have TPI, you need an O2 bung in the collector, which I believe has to be added and should be done b/4 the headers are coated.

 

OK OK OK!!!! Im going with SLP's 1 5/8 without air non-coated, I'll just have to get them coated some other time......I can probably get them and the install kit for under $400....

is that all im going to need? Headers and install kit? Then I can put them right on.....drive to the exhaust shop and have them fix my exhaust where I cut it off...I cut it right before the CAT....

The headers come with the Y-pipe and O2 hole, right? Is the SLP Y-pipe restrictive like the others?

thanks guys, Im glad I asked cause I was almost SET on buying the headmens till I started looking aorund at the prices for SLP's...


Oh yeah, one more ? do the 1 5/8th cause that fitment problem with having to dent one of the primaries on the drivers side?

 

i still say go with the summit shorties, $80 man, get someone to coat em or do it yourself and buy some other cool parts with the leftover money. But thats how i would go about it, in fact that s what i did, just tryin to help ya save some bills

 

Why coated? Unless they are Jet Hot coated, i see no necessity for a coating. Chrome plating will just burn off. As long as you keep them painted with proper header paint (not the factory crap) they will probably outlast your car.

My dad's '73 Camaro Z/28 had a set of Hookers that he painted flat black with proper header paint back in the day and he kept them clean (wiped 'em off from time to time) and they (headers and paint) lasted for many many years, and still looked good.

 

Ceramic coating has beneficial heat insulating properties that no paint or plating has. Even SLP's stainless benefit from ceramic coating.

The only benefit from cheap headers is the cheap part. The downsides are numerous.

 

Oh yea, I realize that ceramic coating has its benefits... thats why I singled out coatings like Jet Hot's in my previous post... I was talking about the chrome "coatings" that will burn off (or turn blue) just as fast as factory black paint will, but cost $100 more than the same set done in flat black.

 

Hmmm, must have been early in the morning when I typed that. What I meant to say is now edited in.

 

Everyone has their moments

 

anyone know about how much more HP the SLP's add over the others?

About how much HP with any kind of header are we talking about?

Does anyone have a close figure as to what HP was added t there ride verses stock?

 

I would say all headers are going to add power...cant really say which one adds more than the other.....I can say long tubes can make more power than shorties, but thats not what your asking. I think all headers(even Flowtech ) will make MUCH more power than the stock manifolds.

 

How much more they will add depends on the size of the engine, the parts used and its state of tune. The variables are infinite. Only a dyno can tell you for sure.

 

well damn! I thought someone would have some sort of numbers.....give or take.........

anyone got pics or know of any post with pics of noncoated 1 5/8 SLP's?

 

Depending on how hot the engine really is (performance wise), the 1.75" is probably worth 5-10 more hp over the 1.625".

 

for a mild 350, 1 5/8ths should be fine... if your gunna go for a big bad engine, go with 1 3/4

 

i got lucky. a friend with an 83 z28 had a pair of hedman shorties on his car with his 305, but when he dropped a built 350 in, he bought long tubes. i got the headers and y pipe for a 100 from him and they only had like 1500 miles on them. already had the o2 bung too. then i sent them to jet hot, which was like 240 for headers and y pipe. i dont have any problem with they y pipe guess im one of the lucky ones

 

I'd say look around used... I just bought Hedman shorties, jethot coated with a custom made 3 inch y pipe with gaskets and bolts for $315 to my door from Jeff Hager on these classifieds. Check classifieds or Ebay if your on a budget!

 

Im on a budget....thats $450. so I think I can get some pretty good headers for that. With the sales going on with some of the vendors , I can get the SLP 1 5/8 and the install kit for less than $380. I would have to say that pretty good...only flaw is they are not coated.....

NOW! why am I reading that the SLP y-pipe is not good either? do all the header manufacturers Y-pipes suck?

 

Nope, the hooker y pipe is awesome

 

what about the SLP's?

yeah but the 2055's dont come without the air tubes...

 

Read my post at the top of the page in the sticky. Just cut the air tubes off of the 2055's.

 

Where can I go to look at some pricing on the hooker 2055's?

coated or not.....wheres the cheapest place to get them..

thnx

 

A lot of places carry them. Most are around $350 uncoated. You could probably get a pair already coated from jethot for around $500-600 depending on how jethot feels that day, lol.

 

If you order them through Jet-Hot or summit, Be sure to ask if they come with gaskets and bolts. I rember a couple of posts that had a problems with that. Mine came from Jeggs and had all the parts. However, they were painted grey, strange.

I just got my 2055 on after getting them back form Jet-Hot. I am most pleased.

 

Im just going to go with SLP's.......the Y-pipe cant be that bad! and for $360 or so I get everything I need for the installation plus the headers are stainless steel so they will hold up until I decide to pay the extra for the Jet hot coating and I dont have to HACK off the air tubes..... why would so many people buy somthing thats bad....and also, you stated in your post that the SLP Y-pipe does not fit under our cars and also sticks way to low................I did a search for that and have found nothing to go along with that statement.....only thing I found was that the 1 3/4 have to be dented to fit....

 

I don't believe there is a problem with the SLP Y pipe hanging to low. I think thats limited to the Hooker 2055's.

The only real problem I know of the SLP's is the fit on the drivers side. Also, some have said the quility of the headers seems to very.

If you do have a problem with fit on the SLP's, you might have worn out motor mounts.

 

I never said the SLP y pipe hangs low. I said it sticks out in the wheelwell. Also the hooker 2055 y pipe does not hang low. There has been 1 single person with that problem and he/she got a new set for free from hooker because that is NOT NORMAL.

 

I remember reading about at least 2 people. If you did get these and happened to have that problem I would return it though. I think it is a quality control problem more than a norm.

Ben

 

I must have misunderstood what I read, sorry bout that....but even still I never read anything about the y-pipe stick into the fender well..oh well, enough of that..sorry.....


ok, now my question, if I was to get a piar of the hedman elites that are already coated where would I take them to have the bung welded in place and alos wouldnt that chip or damage the coating? Im sure it would make the warranty no good.......

Im gonna have to call JEgs or Summit and find out if maybe they come with or can have it done before the coating...