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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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daily driver...a/c..yes or no

now that summers past i cant decide whether or not to commit to removing the a/c to clear up the engine bay and take some weight off. the car IS a daily driver but it is also a t-top car so im thinkin it cant be too bad.

currently living in Connecticut but may move down to either florida or the carolinas in 2-3years so any feedback from people down there would be good too.

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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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I got rid of mine, the only days i regret is on the way from work if its raining it gets pretty hot in the car.
Old Oct 8, 2003 | 12:51 PM
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keep it.

esp if you move here or to florida.

heck, i have a vert and i use it all the time.


its not costing any power when its not on, and while removing it DOES give you alot of room you can work around it.


on a street car, i kinda think of it as breaking your car....




in anycase, you appear to have doubt, so leave it on.
Old Oct 11, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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If one removes a perfectly good AC because you think you are going to gain something, they should get their head examined...

If you do move to the south, especailly Florida and you don't have AC, within a week you will sell your car and get a new one. I removed the AC from my old Monte Carlo because I was young and thought it was a race car. It was mostly miserable all the time. And since it rains a lot down here that makes it worse...

Just keep it, keep it running all the time too and it will last forever...
Old Oct 11, 2003 | 11:31 PM
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i live in FL

i removed my A/C

i knew it wasn't gonna get me more power

i drive my car everyday

i LOVE the fact my engine runs cooler and have more room under the hood

i dont plan to sell my car anytime soon
Old Oct 16, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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Although GTA's are heavy in the fat department, they made up for it by placing more muscle in them. It's my daily driver, will be for quite some time, until I plcae it in the shop for whatever mod work I see fit to do. A/C removal won't be one of them, even though it adds an appreciable amount of weight and makes the engine bay cluttered. I can live with that 'fat' on the car. One, it keeps the wife happy and willing to ride in it. Two, I live in Hawai'i. It rains here. My beater GP had no A/C, and it SUCKED when the rain came. Vents are just no good when it's that humid. Just my two cents.
Old Oct 17, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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I currently own a T-top car and before a convertible mustang. Botha had the AC taken out cause I figure if it gets hot im gonna have the top off so the AC won't get used. It really just cleans up the engine bay not a real niticable weight savings. And it sux when it rains and ure sweating like a dog.
Old Oct 17, 2003 | 08:24 AM
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ah hell, ill take it out...an easy to work on clean engine bay is def a nice trade off. Ill just keep the a/c parts packed away in a box just incase.
Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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It's a car, not a luxury hotel on wheels. Riding a motorcycle in the heat I got used to riding in a hot blast furnace. A/C puts extra load on the engine and wastes gas.
Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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You guys are all insane!!! I had a car that I took the AC out of. It sucked. I regretted ever since I did it. The car was barely faster. Even though it was a 71 Monte Carlo, the AC components weighed in at over 70lbs. That's a lot. Almost made no noticable difference. And driving around everyday sweating really sucks. Now I understand having a nice clean engine compartment is great. Having a motorcycle is cool to, but lets not compare apples to oranges. And BTW, explain how you are going to get better gas mileage with the windows open on the highway doing 80 rather than having the AC on!!?? I am not trying to start any flame wars, just think about it.
Old Oct 23, 2003 | 01:29 AM
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If you leave the blower motor in you've still got the vent giving you air.
Old Oct 23, 2003 | 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by DJsyclone
If you leave the blower motor in you've still got the vent giving you air.

you forgot where it gets the air from.... you get the air that was already in the car...


btw, 92 zzz28 had a GREAT point.

the wind drag at high speeds more then makes up for the AC "loss"




keep in mind that:

1. that 50lbs of stuff really only effects you at launch(Under acceleration), that wind however is a constant drag at speed.

2. you spend more time driving then launching...

3. your AC only robs power when its on.
Old Oct 29, 2003 | 04:21 PM
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The last reply!

Leave it in! reason #1: If that girl next to you get's her hair messed up after she worked on it for 3hrs. because you have the T-tops out, Your going to be in BIG trouble!! #2: If you leave them in on a hot day and she (perspires) your going to be in BIG trouble. If your gay, pay no attention to #1 and #2 and take it off!!
Old Oct 29, 2003 | 04:57 PM
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Re: The last reply!

Originally posted by sqzbox
Leave it in! reason #1: If that girl next to you get's her hair messed up after she worked on it for 3hrs. because you have the T-tops out, Your going to be in BIG trouble!! #2: If you leave them in on a hot day and she (perspires) your going to be in BIG trouble. If your gay, pay no attention to #1 and #2 and take it off!!

WORD!!!
Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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1# if she bitches...too bad. car came first...if she can deal with it, shes a keeper

2#she best be wearin anti-perspirent or shes gettin booted anyway......miss a chance to take the t-tops off..hell no

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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not if you live in texas. the a/c just gives me an excuse to build an engine with a little more power, just for the nice little guy who keeps me cool in 100* weather, called MR. A/C Compressor.


Besides my friend is putting all the crap back in now that he has a girl and she complains it's too hot. i don't blame her.


posted by breathment: mystikkal_69, please visit https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/ann...?s=&forumid=49 and read CAREFULY

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 09:29 AM
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And Texas, like S. Florida, is humid as hell basically all year round. Even if it not terribly hot, the humidity will just make you sweat. I like to drive around in comfort.

But whatever, if some of you think that removing your AC will get you so much power and gas mileage, take it out. But please, do some comprehensive mileage and track testing before you remove the AC. THen do after tests, because I don't think you will gain all that much...

Have fun sweating your knuts off!!!!

BTW, that fog that builds up on the inside of the windshield will not keep you from being held liable for rearending the guy in front of you when he has to stop suddenly in the rain!!!
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by 92 zzz28
And Texas, like S. Florida, is humid as hell basically all year round. Even if it not terribly hot, the humidity will just make you sweat. I like to drive around in comfort.

But whatever, if some of you think that removing your AC will get you so much power and gas mileage, take it out. But please, do some comprehensive mileage and track testing before you remove the AC. THen do after tests, because I don't think you will gain all that much...

Have fun sweating your knuts off!!!!

BTW, that fog that builds up on the inside of the windshield will not keep you from being held liable for rearending the guy in front of you when he has to stop suddenly in the rain!!!


umm, just the blower motor gets rid of the "fog" on the windshield. hitting someone because of it is a act of stupdity... nothing to do with AC..




in anycase, the only gain you get from it is the weight loss. and as you can see from the 23 to 7 or so vote above...... most of us think thats a STUPID idea to do to a street car.
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 10:40 AM
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yeah the humidity is always high down here.... i can just imagine florida just stand outside for a few minutes even if it's not hot out or sun out. you still sweat. i here ya on that one.
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by MrDude_1
umm, just the blower motor gets rid of the "fog" on the windshield. hitting someone because of it is a act of stupdity... nothing to do with AC..




in anycase, the only gain you get from it is the weight loss. and as you can see from the 23 to 7 or so vote above...... most of us think thats a STUPID idea to do to a street car.
the blower alone will get rid of the fog but it'l take half an hour longer.. when you have fog on the inside you want to be able to removei the moisture from the air which can only be done by using the A\C.



and to say that people are STUPID for wanting to remove their A\C's, just because the polls (which asked peoples opinion if it should be removed, not if the idea was STUPID) show that it's not in the common interest of those who voted, is just STUPID..
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 08:26 AM
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You may be right (guard)! But what are you going to smell like?
That Feramone thing is a bunch of BS! It'll put more distance between you than a city-slicker and a hog pen!!
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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How stupid is this?

Before they had air conditioners on every car, how do you suppose they defrosted the windsheilds? I took mine off of my 71 javelin "IN 71" when I lived in Arizona. Yeah, it get's pretty hot out there too, and I used to make week-end trips to San Diego accross the desert did I loose HP because the windows were down? I don't know, I'm still waiting for people to catch up to me to ask them!! Grant you though, I always rolled my window up on the 1/4 mi. track when I knew every .001 of a sec. counted. But, I never could tell a difference between 130mph and 150mph on the desert hwy. if having my window down was really holding me back!! In my opinion, air conditioning is a creature comfort deemed necessary only by those with big, thick, black rimmed glasses!
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 12:12 AM
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Get rid of it, if you wanted AC you shoulda bought a buick this aint no luxury car. The way i think of it is I didnt buy camaro because i wanted passenger space I didnt buy the car because it had big back seats. ....get ridda all that crap...or dont its your car.. i think you know how i feel
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 05:39 AM
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This post has served its uselessness...
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 07:42 AM
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I tried to end it once! It was more like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest.
Now , everyone wants to get their sting in!!!

Only good thing about it is,
We don't have to hear no singin'





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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by 92 zzz28
This post has served its uselessness...
we all had our part in it..
Old Nov 13, 2003 | 03:09 PM
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I would ask are you used to A/C? I'v never had to many cars wher the A/C actually worked so I'm used to not having it so I'm takeing it off in a couple of days when my new engine is going in. If you want to keep it then keep it but if your like me and you don't really care then remove it. Either way I dont think anyone's opinions is "stupid." I drove my t-top TA around a little this summer here in Illinois where it did hit 100F a couple of days and I didnt mind and I stopped drving the car in the rain and the A/C doesnt work. It has new lines on it and everything but I didnt have the $ at the time to recharge it. So.... Like I said. If you are used to always using it then keep it. If you dont use it and you can put up with not having lose it. Either way is cool.
Old Nov 13, 2003 | 09:50 PM
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If, "when **** breaks, i tend to fix it... but i suppose thats a option if yuo dont know how to fix things" is directed to me then I must tell you that my A/C had new lines on it and it didnt have any holes but I CHOSE to not fill it because I didnt care to have it. Also when my past cars' had A/C that didnt work once again I CHOSE not to fix it because A/C isnt a big thing to me. This is not because I dont know how to fix them it was because I didnt really care if it was on the car or not. Btw my current everyday car that I drive the A/C works on it only because I bought it off a guy recently that just had it recharged but guess what... I dont use it anyway.
Old Nov 13, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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so you're saying you use your evaporator to remove the fog from the windshield!? (if they had that lil green guy that laughs and falls over and rolls on the ground, i would ahve used that one too)




1. you just proved you dont know what the hell a evaporator is.

2. a evaporator is part of the AC system

3. i usually use warm air or ambiant air to remove fog.



Hmm the evaporator is part of the A\C system.. NO FREAKING DUH. and it removes moisture from the air when it cools it, moisture causes your window to fog up. have you ever wondered why when you put your HVAC controls on Defrost the compressor kicks on? hmm its all kinda coming together now isn't it. now that may not be your personal way of doing it, but your lifestyle is up to you.

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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 08:28 AM
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at this rate, no matter what you do, you will get knocked for it.. so really its up to you. I figure Id ask the same question, but since I already have the retrofit kit and about 6 bottles of r-134a, Im just gunna go ahead and hope that there is no leaks in my system and that 40 bucks doesnt go out the window. If that happens, Ill remove the compressor and leave everything else in...
Old Nov 14, 2003 | 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by bigals87z28
at this rate, no matter what you do, you will get knocked for it.. so really its up to you. I figure Id ask the same question, but since I already have the retrofit kit and about 6 bottles of r-134a, Im just gunna go ahead and hope that there is no leaks in my system and that 40 bucks doesnt go out the window. If that happens, Ill remove the compressor and leave everything else in...
if the compressor is still good, and the hoses are still good, and you just want to do a CHEAP "lets see if we can get this to work" thing, id spend the $3 for new o-rings and put thoes on before i put the kit in.

a good percentage of the time, the leaks are just around the o rings anyway.... for $3 and some time, it cant hurt.
Old Nov 14, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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I'm confused ???

You choose not to fix the A/C or fill it when it quit's working, because you don't use it anyway? Q. #1, How do you know when it stops working?
Old Nov 14, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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and i quote..

Evaporator Core—The a/c evaporator is like a small radiator but instead of containing hot antifreeze it contains cold Freon gas. The cold Freon gas passes through the evaporator thus making the evaporator very cold. The a/c blower fan is located behind the evaporator and blows air across it and that cold air travels through the dash duct work and out the vents inside the car. Consider the evaporator like a block of ice in your hand and when you blow across it like the blower fan you get cold air. The a/c water you see dripping from under the passenger side of the car is coming from condensation at the evaporator core.

http://www.trustmymechanic.com/parts...rator_core.htm

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