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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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Hawks/Redraif Notchback Announcement!

The mold is just getting final touches, so we should have some finished notches very soon. If you didn't get in on the original list for the GP, you still can. If you have talked to Hawks in the past and given them a credit card number (one of the original 10), please contact him to work out payment and hsipping details. You can call Bruce at 864-855-2694. Thanks everybody! Hopefully we'll have some pictures of a new finished notch very soon.
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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bruce called me yesterday. we're gonna have to work out the payment, but it's great to see that he's definately going through with it.
Old Oct 13, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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I can't wait to get mine...its been the main holdup on painting my car!
Old Oct 13, 2003 | 09:27 AM
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Does anyone know if he wants to do another run of these at some point in the future? I know he has another notchback available, how much of a difference is there in the two? I just don't have the money, or the storage space for a notchback right now, but I'd like to have at least one.

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Hey guys just to give a update we only have heard back from three of the original customers so to finish the mold I need some more people to step up so we can get it finished please call me if anyone is interested.
Thanks,Bruce
Old Oct 14, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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I thought it was almost finished? Why not go ahead and finish the mold...everyone is getting impatient, and you'll have a lot better chance of selling them if they can be delivered in a reasonable amount of time.
Old Oct 14, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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Bruce I'm still in on the GP. I just have to save up the rest of the 500 bux and then I can buy one when you repoduce em
Old Oct 14, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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i know i'm one of the ones he talked to. i'm probably the poorest of all the original 10, but i'm still here, where are the rest of you? i will be if we got this far and they don't get reproduced
Old Oct 14, 2003 | 11:43 PM
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Im one of them as well, and Im not rich, but I really want to get rid of the glasshouse effect in the california summer with my bird...Anyways, Im still in here...lets get these hatches folks.
Old Oct 22, 2003 | 08:07 PM
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im calling him in a few days...my dads a little sketchy about giving people his credit card number cuz someone got the number and spent a shiat load of cash...so ill be calling bruce within the next week
Old Oct 23, 2003 | 10:21 AM
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I'm always cautious with credit cards, too, but Bruce owns a successful business with a very good reputation, and he's as honest as they come. I've known him personally for about 4 years now, since he was still part of Third Gen Resource. Besides, I know where he lives !
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Just a though, sell them on ebay and say that they will have them in 3 weeks, or however long it would take. That way you get the full amount upfront and with people paying $1100 for these things, you would probably sell a few at $500. I really hope they get made because if they do I will probably/hopefully buy one this summer.

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Bruce has the mold finished now, and just has a few minor details to take care of. He hopes to be shipping the first notches after Christmas. I'll post pics later of the first one out of the mold. Right now, the plan is to offer it with a lexan/plexi rear window with an installation kit (a rubber weatherstrip and adhesive), or with no rear window for those who want to have a glass window installed. If anyone wants to order one, give Bruce a call at 864-855-2694. Thanks!
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Originally posted by Mathius
Does anyone know if he wants to do another run of these at some point in the future? I know he has another notchback available, how much of a difference is there in the two? I just don't have the money, or the storage space for a notchback right now, but I'd like to have at least one.

Mathius
Theres two different notches? I only ever saw the pic of one and didnt really like it. I am a huge fan of the factory style notch though and would seriously consider buying one. Lets see some pics and if anyone can update if there is a second notch? i dont believe there is though.
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 11:16 AM
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There are two notches...the one pictured on Hawk's website is the old GT Auto one that IMHO is extremely ugly. The other notch is one that Redraif bought on Ebay (manufacturer unknown), and sent to Hawk's to have reproduced. It looks a lot like the factory notch, but not exactly...this notch uses the original hinge hardware from the hatch, and has the carriage bolt heads sticking through just like they do on the standard hatch. The GM notch doesn't have this, its smooth here. Also, there is no ridge in the center, making it easier to fit other spoilers. I mocked up an Aerowing on this notch, and it fit well, something you can't do with an original. Just about any third gen spoiler will fit on this notch. Redraif's notch has a removable plexiglass back window, but the production ones will likely have a plexi or lexan window, weatherstrip, and adhesive to permanently mount the window. It will also be sold with no rear window for those who want to use regular safety glass, or make their own removable window. Here are some pics of it:

http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...=265593&page=6
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 11:34 AM
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this is starting to get me thinking, maybe ill wanna buy one after i see how they look. It might be something cool to have, my ram air 2 and a notchback.
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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Bruce is supposed to email me some more pics of the first production one installed on a vehicle today...I'll post it as soon as he does. It hink this one will be on a TA.
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 05:39 PM
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holy crap i gave up hope when i saw the one on the site because its ugly as sin but if its like the one on redraif's car i want one! This sucks im 17 and i now have.....4000 dollars worth of appearance mods i want to do....guess i gotta start putting in some over time at my 7 dollar an hour job lol and its 7 bucks an hour canadian too so that comes to almost 900 hours worth of work and at like 20 hours a week rofl its gonna be a while
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Nothing beats an original!!!
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 08:46 PM
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Congrats guys! Know you all have been waiting ages. Good luck with it and keep us posted!
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 08:49 PM
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Ok...here are some pics of the first one out of the mold...
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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Notice how nice the weatherstrip looks...

Hopefully I'll have some pics on a car to post soon!
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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Can I just buy the weatherstripping???
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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Can I just buy the weatherstripping???
If you're serious...not sure you are...give Bruce a call. I'm sure he could sell you some.
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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Yes, I'm serious. The factory seal sucks and I'm hoping the one Hawks has will work better. Is the window opening the same dimensions as the stock notch?
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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I don't think its exact, but its very close. The weatherstrip is moldable, its not molded to fit this specific opening, so if you gave him accurate measurements he could probably supply some.
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Great, I'll try to call him tomorrow.
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im trying to envision it on a 91-92 formula.
but i cant.
demmit.

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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 10:58 AM
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im trying to envision it on a 91-92 formula.
but i cant.
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im trying to envision it on an iroc, same problem
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im trying to envision it on an iroc, same problem
But you don't have too, there is a picture somewhere around here of a notch on an Iroc.
Old Dec 12, 2003 | 12:54 PM
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redraifs site, it has one but the front end of the car is totaled, and i just need to see a couple more pics on different angles to make up my mind.
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Got a call from Bruce tonight verifying my credit card and address. He said he was going to try to get it out within the next five to seven days. Just in time for me to be gone on vacation.

Dammit.

S.
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Yeah he called me this morning and woke me up. Not his fault though, no class today and I got a huge time difference. I really wish I had the rest of the money (I just gave the $100 deposit) so I could have a fancy new notch before the new year. Unfortunately for me, I wasn't expecting to get so many tickets since summer.... Still can't wait to see how they fit!

Laters.
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Hmm. Maybe ill drive to SC and see how one looks on the formula.

thatd take care of the formy people wondering what it looked like.

(and i'd probably end up buying one before i left. heh.)

after all, its only 7 hours or so. piece of cake.

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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 12:45 PM
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cost?

how much dose the notchback cost?
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would a 3" Z spoiler fit on the "hawks" notch.. if so count me in..
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Well. It's the second of January. No notch. So I sit here crying like a bitch. I was all fired up to have it here to work on when I got back from vacation and nada. Gonna have to give Bruce a call today. Anybody get theirs?

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anything ever happen with this hatch?????????
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that's not the same one that redraif and lt1 guy was working on though, there's looked way closer to the stock one.

really guys, how is this thing doing? i don't really want one but i think that it would be cool to see this thing available.

scauffiel, ever get yours?
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yeah im hoping soo too....need more notches out there....that and i need the weather stripping...
heres a photo chop of my car to show what it looks like with the hood and the notch nolan.
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I think it dried up and died....
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I think it dried up and died....
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 06:44 PM
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i hope they dont make it , if they do id probably buy it so i hope they dont becasue i dont wanna spend the money on it .
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Originally posted by 19doug90
im trying to envision it on an iroc, same problem

Here is a pic of my car when I had a notch on it. A guy here named pepsicola has it now.
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and another one.............
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Interesting....a notchback makes your cars
look like a convertible car with the top. I never did like the hatch-back glass and always prefered the 'trunk' look.

But for some reason, the notchback effect on non convertible cars does not look too right. The roof lines do not seem to flow evenly and the back window is squashed...looks strange to me.

But in anycase..goof luck with them.




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