Trying To Get It Running Again
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From: Fayette County, OH
Car: basic third gens
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Transmission: to restore
Axle/Gears: and enjoy
Trying To Get It Running Again
Long story short, this car had a driveability issue involving a code 33. I quit driving it because of it. All I did was start it up and drive it a mile or so, every now and again. Then one day it didn't start because the fuel pump had failed. That was about 13 years ago.
Which brings us to current time. I've installed a new Walbro pump, in an NOS sending unit. The car would not fire, at first. Presumably due to bad fuel still in the lines. It eventually fired, but it only fires up initially and then dies. Fuel pressure is good. I have also checked for injector pulse. Last night, I gave the injectors (24# Accells from '03) some "percussion maintenance" and it seemed to help, as the car would run a few seconds longer. But tonight, it starts and immediately dies.
Best I can tell, the injectors have failed and the car only briefly starts because of the cold start injector? Am I overlooking something?@Tuned Performance
Which brings us to current time. I've installed a new Walbro pump, in an NOS sending unit. The car would not fire, at first. Presumably due to bad fuel still in the lines. It eventually fired, but it only fires up initially and then dies. Fuel pressure is good. I have also checked for injector pulse. Last night, I gave the injectors (24# Accells from '03) some "percussion maintenance" and it seemed to help, as the car would run a few seconds longer. But tonight, it starts and immediately dies.
Best I can tell, the injectors have failed and the car only briefly starts because of the cold start injector? Am I overlooking something?@Tuned Performance
Re: Trying To Get It Running Again
Can the engine be made to run if fuel is manually administered after starting? That might reveal if the ignition still functions after the key is released to the "RUN" position. It could also be helpful is the injectors are not pulsing after the initial start.
What year? I'm curious if there might be a VATS issue at hand.
What year? I'm curious if there might be a VATS issue at hand.
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From: Fayette County, OH
Car: basic third gens
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Transmission: to restore
Axle/Gears: and enjoy
Re: Trying To Get It Running Again
Nevermind the background noise, it's just the TV.
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Re: Trying To Get It Running Again
Can the engine be made to run if fuel is manually administered after starting? That might reveal if the ignition still functions after the key is released to the "RUN" position. It could also be helpful is the injectors are not pulsing after the initial start.
What year? I'm curious if there might be a VATS issue at hand.
What year? I'm curious if there might be a VATS issue at hand.
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Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: Trying To Get It Running Again
That’s along time to sit with untreated fuel. It might be worth getting southbay to service them or put in 22s I can’t remember if it’s a stock 350 or slightly modified with cam or has any tuning or not.
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Axle/Gears: and enjoy
Re: Trying To Get It Running Again
It's an aluminum headed 350 with an ancient Crane CompuCam. Injectors are 24# and it has a mail order tune from Brian Harris. It never ran perfect, but ran well.
I was going to get the narrow body, 24# injectors from Southbay, but the website shows they are out of stock. So I ordered a set of 24# injectors from Amazon today... for a whole 47 bucks, lol. I don't expect much from them, but if they make the car run and move again, that will be good enough for now. If not, I'm out 47 bucks and it's just a failed experiment and I will know not to do that again.
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From: Mile High Country !!!
Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: Trying To Get It Running Again
Injector quality varies off China copies that don’t tune at all to real ford d3. If it ran well service what you have the voltage offsets should be adjusted already in the tune. Dispite a flow rating being the same the control voltage aspect is slightly different.
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From: Fayette County, OH
Car: basic third gens
Engine: that I like
Transmission: to restore
Axle/Gears: and enjoy
Re: Trying To Get It Running Again
Injector quality varies off China copies that don’t tune at all to real ford d3. If it ran well service what you have the voltage offsets should be adjusted already in the tune. Dispite a flow rating being the same the control voltage aspect is slightly different.
Fwiw, I don't plan on driving and using the car with those cheap Amazon injectors. I just really want to hear it run again, and have the ability to move it in and out of the garage while I tend to other stuff in the car.
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From: Mile High Country !!!
Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: Trying To Get It Running Again
Um maybe if I say the flow is the same but electricity they function differently explains it better
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From: Fayette County, OH
Car: basic third gens
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Transmission: to restore
Axle/Gears: and enjoy
Re: Trying To Get It Running Again
I ordered these ones here. Somewhere in the description it said they worked on '85+ GM too.
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From: Mile High Country !!!
Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: Trying To Get It Running Again
It should run with those, just not sure how great
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