PE vs RPM + PE vs CTemp = PE total correct?
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Car: 92 Form, 91 Z28, 89 GTA, 86 Z28
Engine: BP383 vortech, BP383, 5.7 TPI, LG4
Transmission: 4L60e, 700R4, 700R4..
Axle/Gears: 3.27, 2.73
PE vs RPM + PE vs CTemp = PE total correct?
Am I correct in assuming (in $6E - using the 6Ev011.ecu and TunerPro RT) that PE vs RPM is added to PE vs Coolant temperature? I've made some changes using that assumption to lean out PE a bit, and it drives fine, but I haven't been using our wideband, or even scanning it.
If it's not that way, there should definitely be some help note added to that .ECU.
If it's not that way, there should definitely be some help note added to that .ECU.
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From: Corona
Car: 92 Form, 91 Z28, 89 GTA, 86 Z28
Engine: BP383 vortech, BP383, 5.7 TPI, LG4
Transmission: 4L60e, 700R4, 700R4..
Axle/Gears: 3.27, 2.73
Well, when I data logged it tonight, with 17-18% PE vs RPM and about 4% PE vs Ctemp, the logged A/F from the ecu said it was commanding a 13.0:1, which doesn't quite jive with the PE. I looked at it in hex and it still equated to about 17-18% i.e. 150/128 = 117 and 14.7/1.17 = 12.56.
On every car that I've calibrated with our EFI system, (which are mostly 4 cyl TBI cars, which can sustain 14.7 at WOT - and we have block learn so the test can be back to back no problem), when 17% PE is added, it goes directly to 12.5:1, give or take a smidge.
Is there an error in the datastream? Or am I calculating things incorrectly? Or is there another factor involved?
On every car that I've calibrated with our EFI system, (which are mostly 4 cyl TBI cars, which can sustain 14.7 at WOT - and we have block learn so the test can be back to back no problem), when 17% PE is added, it goes directly to 12.5:1, give or take a smidge.
Is there an error in the datastream? Or am I calculating things incorrectly? Or is there another factor involved?
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You got the correct 2 tables for PE/WOT, but the calculation for the AFR is a bit more complex. Do a search on these boards for the answer posted by Traxion. He posts at least 2 different methods to calculate the AFR. But they both give very similar results.
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From: Corona
Car: 92 Form, 91 Z28, 89 GTA, 86 Z28
Engine: BP383 vortech, BP383, 5.7 TPI, LG4
Transmission: 4L60e, 700R4, 700R4..
Axle/Gears: 3.27, 2.73
I guess this means that the .ecu is mislabled. I'll see if I can get it back to normal tonight. I'm doing the math right now, and can assure you that 14.7/13=1.125 AND (150+10+128)/256=1.125, SO I'm right in that the .ecu is wrong! (not shouting ! just happy I found the discrepancy).
Thanks for pointing that out to me about the calculation. I found it here https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=214156 as you said, and it jives with what my display was showing in $6E also.
Thanks for pointing that out to me about the calculation. I found it here https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=214156 as you said, and it jives with what my display was showing in $6E also.
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From: Corona
Car: 92 Form, 91 Z28, 89 GTA, 86 Z28
Engine: BP383 vortech, BP383, 5.7 TPI, LG4
Transmission: 4L60e, 700R4, 700R4..
Axle/Gears: 3.27, 2.73
OK, got it now:
For PE vs RPM
Multiplier = .390625
Offset = -50
For PE vs Ctemp
Multiplier = .390625
Offset = 0
This way, if you add the numbers they will total the total added percent. So, if you want 12.5:1, you simply take 14.7/12.5*100-100=17.6%, and the two PE's must add to 17.6%.
If you want 13:1, take 14.7/13*100-100=13.07% total PE.
Cool eh?
For PE vs RPM
Multiplier = .390625
Offset = -50
For PE vs Ctemp
Multiplier = .390625
Offset = 0
This way, if you add the numbers they will total the total added percent. So, if you want 12.5:1, you simply take 14.7/12.5*100-100=17.6%, and the two PE's must add to 17.6%.
If you want 13:1, take 14.7/13*100-100=13.07% total PE.
Cool eh?
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