Just picked up new Accel 24 pound injectors...
Can anybody confirm the part numbers for me, as the new ones appear a little shorter than o.e.m.
Thanks

 

IMNSHO, it doesn't matter. Return 'em.

 

Thanks for your help.
Options around here are limited.
Anybody know the part number?

 

He is serious. Did you check the posts on "product reviews" concerning Accel injectors.

Return them and buy the Ford Racing 24#/hr injectors. It should save you some bucks.

 

Accel products...at least the majority of them are junk. The SVO injectors are much better. To help explain how bad Accel injectors are, Ed Wright @ Fastchip will not even touch a car that has Accel injectors in them. That in itself should be enough to convince you that they are junk.

 

I will also tip in and say to avoid the accel injectors and go with the SVO ones. My accel set is about a year old and I allready have a few that leak down after shut off.

 

Accel= junk

SVO =good

I ran 3 sets of SVO and not a problem and one of the sets is seeing more time in a fellow members car


later
Jeremy

 

Point taken... Accels will be returned tomorrow a.m.
But as I said earlier, my options in this small town are somewhat limited.
The local parts guy was unable to find any info on SVO injectors.
Could they be listed under a different brand name, how about a parts number.
Any help would be appreciated.

 

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=249742

and...

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=259175

I'm a post *****, what can I say? :shrug:

And this is why is your friend too.

 

No P/N here but the Accels are a tad shorter. I run them in my car and have had no problems with them over the last 5 years..ignore the naysayers.

 

1 out of 4 dentists agree cavities aren't that bad.

 

Unless you have direct experiance with their injectors you are just spreading hearsay.

 

They suck bad, my friend put some in and two were dead right out of the box!

 

Ummmmm...how bout NO. If one of the most well known GM Tuners will not touch a car that has them installed in it, then I would have to say that they are junk

 

Correct me if Im wrong, but, the Accel injectors that you buy, are manufactured by someone else. It seems that all the problem Accel units are in the 24-26# range. Now dont get me wrong, if I were paying a company to manufacture a product for me, and there is quality issues, I would consult another manufacturer. Ive used Accel products for years, from caps and rotors, to the 300 race wire, and the only problem Ive had with the wires, is when I allowed them to burn against a header! My car also has Accel 36# injectors, and an Accel superram, and base, and I could not be happier.

 

Brutalform, 36# injectors? Should you have that small of an injector in a big motor? IMHO you may need 40#'ers?

 

Hey you know what, your right, Floorguy....Phew ! Im glad you brought that up...My motor might have melt down....

 

That does it FloorGuy...Im going on a larger injector quest....Ill keep you filled in on what i find...

 

If you learn to do your own programming you can go bigger yet. Just tame them down to suit your needs.

 

As a matter of fact I do. Twice over even and both were sheet. I gave them the benefit of the doubt the first time since they seemed to be new to market. I'd say the only ones as bad would be the multecs... but wait, I don't want to speak hearsay. :shrug:

 

Whatever. I'm tired of arguing with the children on this site.
See you guys...never.

 

I think someones a tad biast.

 

You asked for part 3s:

Accel 24#/hr injectors - ACC-150824

Ford Racing 24#/hr injectors - M9593A302

These are the Summit Racing part #s.

The Accels sell for $230 for a set of 8, while the FMS injectors sell for $220 for a set of 8........

FYI: Accel is owned by Mr. Gasket. I was on their site for 15 minutes and could NOT find the part number from their fuel injectors. I found the numbers at Summit Racing in 1 minute, go figure.

 

Got it in about 2-1/2 minutes (its a big catalog)
150824 is the 8-pak, single is 150124
Go to Mr. Gasket, (or skip directly to the Accel PDF link below.)
Click on the Accel Logo at the bottom takes you to Accel Click on Accel about center under online catalog takes you to Accel PDF Click on the binoculars to run a search for "high impedance injectors." I got 3 hits, first section is technical specifications.

 

You guys that posted the part #'s for the Accel injectors should have probably read the thread before posting those. He sent them back and is getting the SVO injectors. Sorry to sound like an ***, but you might consider reading the whole thread before posting.

 

I had experience with them and with others. The 1 out of four dentists crack was just that, a crack that I hoped to use to point out that everyone has an opinion. Maybe I should use a more simple form of English??

You were the one impying that I was speaking hearsay. If you can't take a joke, such as that last line in my post that seems to have affected you poorly, then don't take cheap pot shots. :shrug:

I'll stand by my opinion. Accel injectors are a pieces of fecal matter. So are the Multecs. You can see in the posts I linked I personally like Ford Motorsport injectors, and the part numbers are listed therein. You can grab those numbers and call a Ford dealership, it seems ford tries to keep their prices reasonable on some parts.

 

I agree accel suck, but if you want 7 good 24# injecters you can have mine. only 1200 miles on them.the eighth shorted out and filled my brand new 383 with fuel, what quality ha ha. I dont know what the long term damage is . Got it running with ford 24#

 

brutal is right. About the only involvement Accel probably had with the manufacture of "their" injectors was placing an order for them, then paying someone a subsitence wage to package them in a a box that they ordered from somewhere else.

Same as Ford.

Isn't that why we're here? Everyone has different opinions and experiences. I don't doubt that Red Devil and others have had a couple of less than stellar experiences with their Accel injectors. I also am certain that Morley has had no significant problems and is completely satisfied with his set(s) of injectors. Hopefully, others would have better experiences, but it seems at least that those that have had problems with them aren't afraid to speak up and relate their experiences. Those that are happy with theirs may simply be less vocal. No need for a war over it. We'll have enough battles just getting our projects to run properly.

 

Didn't I already say that?

 

I did read the entire thread, there's nothing wrong with posting the information, there may be others that are looking for it, who knows they might also be convinced by hearsay/experience/opinions posted here to choose a different brand.
I'm sure you're not suggesting that I can't post infornmation that goes against you're POV, opinions, or experiences. If this is the case then I will graciously accept a Moderator deleting my replies.

 

I wasn't saying that at all. I was just trying to make the point that there was no need for the p/n to be posted since he already sent them back. You are correct though that someone else may need them in the future, but if they read the entire thread...they will see where I made it perfectly clear that they are junk and that one of the BEST GM Tuners in the country will not touch a car that has Accel **** installed.

 

And they will see where I and others made it perfectly clear that we have used their injectors for YEARS without any problems. Your opinion isn't the only one on these boards, others have opinions that are JUST as valid.
And one GM tuner that doesn't like them hardly covers the entire tuning market, he is but one out of many.

 

Then maybe you should start to take your own advice and act accordingly. You seem to come off as yours is the only opinion with merit. Or do I speak heresay again (your allegation)... no,as a matter of fact I have your own words with wich to argue this particular point.

Maybe you should qualify your statements before you aver someone as a child.

 

Yes as a matter of fact you do. Just because YOU had bad luck with something doesn't make it all junk as you would have everyone believe. And yes, you act like a stubborn child.

 

well reading this post like 90% of the people have either heard or seen for themselves accels are of bad quality. of coarse not every injector is gonna be bad. so their are the .. lucky.. ones that get a good set.

 

You are correct most people know from experiance that accel injecters suck.a small percentage of people have experianced Know problems.If you had accel injecters in your motor for only 1200 miles and one shorted out. would you buy accell again? i think not!!

 

Maybe you need to lookup the definition of hearsay. I set forth my personal experience and in fact was clear that my thoughts on Accel injectors were my own opinion. I very rarely represent any blanket statement as a pure fact.

You on the other hand expressed your experience with them, then brazenly dismissed everyone else's opinion and experience in the matter, and still apparently do. Additionally, you insist on acting superior to everyone in the thread with an air of contempt for all who do not agree with your perspective. That, again IMNSHO, is acting quite lite a child throwing a temper tantrum.

You said before "others have opinions that are JUST as valid". Act like it.

 

How many people here have had bad accel injectors? Even if it were 20 people, that is miniscule number compared to how many injectors Accel sells each and every day. If all of their injectors were "junk", they wouldn't be able to sell any once the word got around.
The only ones you ever hear from are the ones that had a problem..the rest of us are quite happy with their products and therefore have no reason to bash them.
Since I got a bad set of gaskets from Summit (both head gaskets, valve cover, distributor & water neck all failed in less than a year) All of Summit's gaskets must be junk..Right?
I had a GE can opener that quit working in just 6 months...GE's can openers are junk... Right?
My Magnavox TV broke at 8 months old..All Magnavox TV's are junk..Right?

hearsay
"I have a buddy who knows a guy whose cousin's friend knows a guy that had bad Accel injectors."

 

Yes you are confused. Did I say no one else's opinion or exp. were valid? No, I don't think so. You are reading what isn't there.
You want a definition of hearsay? See my post above.

Moderators...lock this thread, No one WANTS to understand.

 

No one wants to understand because you have been acting like a badass and coming off like you know everything

 

Your opinion.
In MY opinion I have been trying to get across that just because a few people want to be vocal in bashing a company it doesn't necessarily follow that what they say holds true for everyone.

Saying; "They are junk!" is quite a bit different than saying " I think they are junk"
Now, WHERE did I "act like a badass"??? Where??? I said ;"Ignore the naysayers" As in; investigate, gather facts and form your OWN opinion. Did I say anyone was wrong??? NO! I said that I have used them for many years without a problem, that is fact. "They are junk" is not fact, it is opinion backed by no facts or proof.
Because someone's opinion doesn't follow the herd is a reason to attack them??? On here I guess it is, standard routine seems to be to attack and insult anyone that disagrees with the herd..BRAVO!
And I will admit, I do know quite a bit on the subject of automobiles, engines and fuel injection, I have several decades of experiance to draw from and have been around the block several times. So, if you want to think of me as a "badass" go ahead..I really could care less.

 

You are right...that is my opinion. I have used 1 Accel product and never again will I use anything with that name on it. One bad experience and I will never use anything from the company again.

 

I hate to say this, but Morley, please just shut the f_ck up. your annoying.

 

well traviz is right that friend is me

i bought a set of 8 accel injectors brand new..and factory sealed...one was dead out of the box... a pro shop used a injector balance tester on it...well i ****ed with it got it to start working worked for about oh 500 miles now...they are broken again leaking so bad i have a 3grand idle...and fuel comming out of my exhaust...

do a search i have over 20 people SAYING accel injectors suck and htey do...

infact im so infurated about it im starting a class action lawsuit against accel

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...ighlight=accel

 

Yes, I am as confused by your ranting about as much as I am after reading through one of Mikey’s (kidrcth aka therckid) posts. Really. You did in fact express that any opinion contrary to a glowing recommendation of Accel injectors was not valid. Maybe you need to invest in a dictionary. It sounds like you’ve been hanging out with Mikey. I’ll help you though, here is what lead everyone to conclude that you were disdainful of anyone’s negative opinion of Accel injectors…

and again…

Putting aside the fact that asking for opinions is in fact investigating as such, let me demonstrate what the difference is between those two words you so blithely interchange at a whim…

Main Entry: in·ves·ti·gate
Pronunciation: in-'ves-t&-"gAt
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -gat·ed; -gat·ing
Etymology: Latin investigatus, past participle of investigare to track, investigate, from in- + vestigium footprint, track
transitive senses : to observe or study by close examination and systematic inquiry
intransitive senses : to make a systematic examination; especially : to conduct an official inquiry

Main Entry: ig·nore
Pronunciation: ig-'nOr, -'nor
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): ig·nored; ig·nor·ing
Etymology: obsolete ignore to be ignorant of, from French ignorer, from Latin ignorare, from ignarus ignorant, unknown, from in- + gnoscere, noscere to know -- more at KNOW
1 : to refuse to take notice of
2 : to reject (a bill of indictment) as ungrounded

Kindly note that those two words do not, in fact, interchange in definition, and any attempt to do so would be, well, ignorant of their respective definitions.

Now then, to clarify another point you seem to be having difficulty with…

See, you have a problem there, for while you use a correct analogy, you did not truly define the word, nor are you apparently using it correctly. Here, let me help with that as well…

Main Entry: hear·say
Pronunciation: 'hir-"sA
Function: noun
: RUMOR

I am still confused at your accusation that I spoke hearsay. I can not find this in looking back over the record. I expressed my opinion. If you don’t like it, leave as you stated you would.

And as you may have noted, your opinion is not law. You do not tell the moderators how to do their job. They are very capable of doing so on their own using their own judgment to form their own opinions.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Morley [B] How many people here have had bad accel injectors? Even if it were 20 people, that is miniscule number compared to how many injectors Accel sells each and every day. If all of their injectors were "junk", they wouldn't be able to sell any once the word got around.

Not entirely true. There are numerous suspect products and services which are purchased everyday. And I don’t remember ever saying all Accel injectors were junk as you intimate with your poor example. We are discussing a particular model, like the Corvair, which did not portray the entirety of GM’s line. As I stated before, I rarely make such blanket statements. If you would like references to that you may PM Vader and ask him, he knows first hand of my tendencies

That makes no sense. You mean to tell me that there are a slew of happy Accel injector owners that came to this board, read this post and refuse to post anything positive? That is pure speculation. As has previously been mentioned the Accel units that have been reported as problematic on this board have all been those rated under 30#. This thread is about 24# injectors, which I have had two sets of, which both were crap. I posted my opinion and you took exception to it.

Nevertheless, I made it clear that I spoke my own personal opinion and have tried their injectors more than once. You still insist on trying to demean my opinon. Why?!? Where exactly did anyone say all Accel products were junk? I most certainly did not. I in fact own quite a few of their products.

In conclusion, I would like to leave you with one further definition that, in my opinion, may fit your personality and may help you see that you may be in the wrong in your obstinate attacks towards everyone’s opinions contrary to yours…

Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, hypocrite, bigot
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices





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All definitions from www.merriamwebster.com ‘s free online dictionary. If my post seems a bit erratic, well, taking care of the kids and writing can not be done simultaneously, but I tried anyway.

 

Shut up? Because you say so? Fat chance!
Oh and,learn how to spell, your ignorance is glaring.

 

Back to name calling..the first sign of loosing an argument and low intelligence.

 

I'm no english major, but his spelling looks fine to me. Maybe you meant his grammar? If you're going to pick on someone for they're typing, don't be owned by YOUR own ignorance

 

I'm sorry, where did I 'call you a name'? You were the one that came out swinging at everyone with accusations, name calling and intimations. I just pointed out your fallacies and errors through out this thread.

Your opinion does not preclude the fact that many people have indeed had problems with their 24# Accel brand injectors. That would be a fact. Two sets here would be a fact.

If you truly feel that you are in the right (about what, everyone is still unclear), do not feel intimidated by my ability with words, but please present your argument. I think, as many seem to agree, that you are in the wrong. Suck it up and just admit it. If in fact you are correct in whatever argument you still believe you have, eloquence will not negate an invalid argument on my part.

 

Actually, that's the second sign. First sign of below-average intellect is misusing the word 'loosing' when in fact it should be 'losing.'

If you've heard the saying "even a broken clock is right twice a day" then you have some hint as to your Accel injector success story.

I ditched the 6 working and flow-matching Accel injectors from the 8-pack they sold me. 100% of my Accel injector buying experience is negative.