This Probably sounds like a newb question but, on Hawksthirdgenparts.com it shows the 5" spoiler for 82-86, 91-92. What about the 87-90? Will it not fit on those years? Can someone please explain to me why. This is the spoiler i'm refering to.


Thanks

Mike

 

looks like im the first yes. ok the 82-82 dont have a 3rd brake ligth , the 91-92 has it mounted high , it will bolt on your 87-90 but wont be legal since you wotn havea 3rd brake light . Big deal , my 85 doesnt have one legally and i dont think a cop is gonna worry about a brake light .

 

because if you have a 3rd brake light in the spoiler (like 87+) cars do, you cant legally take it off and replace it with aspoiler that doesnt have one.

he can say 91 and 92 legally because they used the wing instead and had the light on the hatch.

 

Of course, I didn't even think of that. Thanks guys!

Mike

 

Would it be legal to replace the spoiler brake light with a hatch brake light then put the 5" spoiler in?
What about the base 87-90 Camaros without a spoiler, did they exist? If they did where is the brake light?

 

thats still DOT legal... so yea.

although swapping parts is always a gray area, the end result is a DOT legal setup....

the hatch.

 

unless the cop really knows his camaros he shouldent stop u for it. please correct me if im wrong but as far as i know the 82-85 didnt come with a third break light.

Dark Mage

 

Your right...i beilive they became manditory on all cars after '85 not positive though...but something like that.

Oh and just for reference, on my '92 z28 i have a third brake light mounted on the hatch...i dont use it though and ive never got pulled over for not having it. VA has strict laws too but ive got lucky they just dont notice...

 

those be teh ugly, dont do it!!!!!11!!

 

My 92' has the third brake light mounted in the middle of the back window at the top(factory). Just go to a junk yard pull one out wire it up..... presto

 

it looks good in real life on SOME cars... horrible on others...

but its rarely photogenic. it looks espically good on cars with large cowl hoods... kinda balances them out.

i may be wrong, but i think they're permantly bonded to the glass....

 

I like it if you have something big up front to balance it out

 

It may be i'm not really sure,never really looked at that close. Even if it was,couldn't you use like some adhesive on it ? Like they use to hold that metal clip on rear view mirror to the glass. Just a thought.

 

those be teh ugly, dont do it!!!!!11!!
Ugly my a$$

 

We love the look of the extended spoiler (especially with a cowl).. there were a few things we wanted different, so we made our own.






The car is not finished yet in these pics.

 

I don't know what else to say...

 

johnyIROC,

 

I cant believe you're letting that fresh candy paintjob see snow ....spoiler looks really good, what does it measure out at 5, 6"???

 

Look at irocbirdbuilders car.....best looking car with the 5" spoiler, and it matches with his hood

 

Don't worry... we're not driving around in the snow! My dad needed the garage for a few hours so we had to roll it out. It comes out to 6" in the middle... thanks guys!

 

Damn! I always loved the 2nd gen spoilers. Beautiful work.

 

if you ever feel like making another for a price, look my way

 

this is the kind of spiler i want on my car, do you think it would look alright, i had the wrap around, i dont have a pic of my car, but its red, 3" ram air hood, lowered with sportlines, and 17" TT II's

 

I think this spoiler would look alot better on our cars

 

Ugly???

 

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where do you get those spoilers?

 

Hawksthirdgenparts.com (sponsor up above)

 

yea and i have a t/a so it wont fit

 

third brake lights became manditory in the US on pass. vehicals in 86, and on non-gov trucks in 90

 

My 1992 S10 has no center brake light, never did.

 

if by "mandatory" you mean it became hard (but not impossible) for OEMs to meet DOT approval on passenger cars without one, then yes.
there still is no law for trucks, but its such a good idea that most have it.

 

The Spoiler will NOT fit the 87-90 Camaro's without Drilling holes to match.

Please be aware:

The spoiler is wider then the 82-86.
Quarterpanel drilling required and Hatch holes need to be made to fit. The outter two fit right but the third inner set do not line up.

Will directly fit the 82-86 and 91-92.

Third break light is irelevant... Just as long as your tail lights work.

 

Exactly...

 

Not sure what wing that is but its not Hawks unless its modified.

But it looks like a different style so I don't think its even Hawks wing modded.

 

That spoiler was actually made from scratch by johnyIROC. He started with the stock spoiler and worked from there.

 

why does the paint look bad on the roof of the car

 

Looks like it's just dirty, if you look on the hatch you can see it there as well.

 

you're right, looking closer it just looks like condensation probably from being rolled out of the garage.....lol at first glance though it looks like some faded paint

 

The car is filthy in those pics... I wiped off the spoiler just for the pic. The rest is covered in dust. When the wether is nicer I'll take some good pics of the entire car.

 

Is it just me or does johnyIROC's custum spoiler look like a 77 78 trans am spoiler?

10/4 ... LOL

Speed

 

Heres another

 

I think it looks awsome johny! ...I always loved the Bandit trans am. If you could make a mold of that think you could probalby get some good coin by selling them. However that would mean that everyone would have one, and yours wouldnt be such a respected custom thing. I could almost guarrantee that Hawks would mysteriously come out with one like yours shortly afterwords too LOL.

Very cool

Speed

 

i like that spoiler you made. what is that the zz0? what does that stand for. awesome rims and awesome paint too btw.

 

Can somebody tell me how thick the fiberglass is at the the corner of the corner peices on the Hawks spoiler?

The only thing that bugs me about it is that that part is too square. Some fairly minor careful sanding before paint could take care of that.

Here's a 5 second MS Paint to give you a basic idea of what I mean. Forgive me for using your car, LT1Powered89.

Before:

 

After:

 

I agree. The photochop looks about a bajillion times better

 

is there a way to get this spoiler on a firebird/trans am with is still somehow looking good?

 

you'd have to widen it but it is possible with a little fiberglass work. Prolly have to modify the end pieces too. Maybe somebody should talk hawks into making one for firebirds.

 

Perhaps a stretched version of the Z20 appearance package spoiler.