FBFAN

I couldn't help it! I was at the junk yard looking for parts and this radio was in pristine condition just begging to go home with me. $35 bucks later and an evening with the dremel, it is now installed. All I can say is it sounds sooooo good compared to the stock delco that I repaired a few months ago. I also like how the lights now match the rest of the dash. Did I mention how awesome it sounds!

ferret lady

looks good, you did have to get it unlocked?

FBFAN

It was already unlocked, thankfully.

DynoDave43

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Nice buy FBFAN.

PurelyPMD

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Well done!

firechicken1992

My 2002 GTP has that radio. I've also been planning on getting one for my 'bird when I get it running soon!
What does it look like in the day light?

5.0ta

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Had the same Delco (2000 T/A)...added an Aux. input, great working radio!...just looked a little to modern so I put the cassette player back in.

firechicken1992

It'll look right at home AND period correct in the 90's 3rd gen 'birds

FBFAN

Here are a couple of daylight pictures.

firechicken1992

That looks AWESOME. I can't wait to get one for mine this summer.

PurelyPMD

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Were any modifications necessary to the face plate or wiring? What did you have to do?

FBFAN

No face plate or wiring changes needed. I did have to trim back the metal mounting tabs on the sides of the radio some. I also trimmed back the plastic guide pin support (what the radio guide pin slides into), because I just couldn't get the radio to sit flush. It might go in without trimming, but I played with it for two hours and no luck. Not sure if the cabling was in the way or what.

Overall the main part of radio is about 1/4" longer than the stock radio. The CD player is another 1/2" longer just at the top. So in all, the entire radio is about 3/4" longer than the original.

This radio was pulled from a 01 Grand Prix, so if your at the junk yard, be sure to hit all the Pontiac's, not just the Firebirds.

alex722607

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I want to do this conversion, but I need an aux modification to the radio and I need to do the steering wheel swap because i refuse to be content with driving my GTA without steering wheel controls.

I have the uk3 option in my car and I like my steering wheel controls very much.

Anyone know if I can swap a 4th gen wheel on a 3rd gen column without major mods? Or should I be looking for an entire column.

FBFAN

I know the car I pulled it from had steering wheel controls. Not sure if it is directly compatible with older controls. Maybe someone on the boards can answer that has more experience with these radios.

ThePain

Pretty cool.... but DAMN that radio screams cheap 90/00s chevy plastic garbage!!! BLEH

Nothing against you, I just have serious hate for the "Styling" Chevy went for back then..

The thing that's so sad about it is I personally feel the Delco third gen radios are leaps ahead nicer looking than those new Delco units... and they're pretty outdated themselves

SC/T02

What rear plugs do you have? Would the 1985 radio male connectors be the same as yours? I have 3 connectors. A blue, white, and some other color manybe grey with a 2 prong additional connector. Is that what you have? My radio has recently kicked on the clock which stays on so long as the ACC fues is in the car.

alex722607

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I have blue and white which are speakers, I have black which is power and lights and I have gray which is for steering controls. Keep in mind though I think 1988 was the first year for these plugs in our cars

FBFAN

I think you can buy an adapter to convert from 12 pin to 21 pin, so you can use the newer style radios.

http://replacementradios.com/gm-wiri...-a3-p-166.html

my82roc

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I see those pontiac cd players all day long at my local yards.Just picked up a monsoon cd player from a 98 camaro in good working condition.The second picture is the delco cd player that I have in both of my Irocs.

yaj15

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I've been looking for a factory CD player with the EQ like you have. What kind of car did that head unit come in? Did you have to modify the wiring harness to get it to work?

FBFAN

That radio looks great.

my82roc

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It's a Buick radio.They came in early to mid 90's road masters and lesabres if your lucky enough to find one.The wiring is a gm standard 21 pin plug used from 89 and up.I have several of these CD players if your interested.The radios work but the cd mechanisms need to be refurbished

yaj15

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Sounds good. Thanks for the info. I'll have to splice in the 89 and up connector to work in my'88.

The_Wraith

For the radio MY82ROC posted, keep a lookout for sloped front end style astro/safari vans. I have seen many with that type, for pontiac guys look for early 90s bonneville and you will get red lighting in the same unit.

It should also be noted for some reason that era of deck seems to pump out better sound then those newer bubbly looking GM units. Not only that they look better.

eseibel67

I put the same radio as the OP in an 88 GTA. The font matches the HVAC, the red backlighting matches the dash, and the rear plugs fit without any splicing. Unless you are intimately familiar with these cars, it looks factory stock. And the good news is that perfectly functioning ones are available for peanuts because they were used in all flavors of Grand Am's and Grand Prix's in the early 2000 era that now litter every junkyard. But it does not work with 3rd gen radio controls.

nhra-trans-am

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Yep, put the same style radio in my 89, but the steering wheel controls plug does not fit in the newer radio.

my82roc

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I've never seen these radios in astro or safari vans.I belive this style radio only came in buicks

Tru70SS/RS

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I pulled mine from an early 90s buick park avenue.

The_Wraith

GM cross platformed their delco decks in everything they made. They could be ordered with pretty much any of the line up. An example of one particular model



ASTRO 92 w/o remote multi-disc CD player; AM-mono-FM-stereo, w/o cass; w/CD player
ASTRO 93-95 AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player
BERETTA 92 w/o remote multi-disc CD player; w/o cass; w/CD player
BERETTA 93-96 AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player
BLAZER S10/JIMMY S15 92 w/o remote multi-disc CD player; AM-mono-FM-stereo, w/o cass; w/CD player
BLAZER S10/JIMMY S15 93-94 AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player
BRAVADA 92 w/o remote multi-disc CD player; AM-mono-FM-stereo, w/rotary *****
BRAVADA 93-94 AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player
CAPRICE 92 w/o remote multi-disc CD player; w/o Bose sys; AM-mono-FM-stereo, w/o cass; w/CD player
CAPRICE 93 AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player
CAVALIER 92 w/o remote multi-disc CD player; AM-mono-FM-stereo, w/o cass; w/CD player
CAVALIER 93-94 AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player
CHEVROLET VAN 92 w/o remote multi-disc CD player; AM-mono-FM-stereo, w/o cass; w/CD player
CHEVROLET VAN 93-95 AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player
CHEVROLET VAN 96 exc. Express; AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player
CORSICA 92 w/o remote multi-disc CD player; (AM-mono-FM-stereo), w/o cass; w/CD player
CORSICA 93-96 AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player
GMC VAN 92 w/o remote multi-disc CD player; AM-mono-FM-stereo, w/o cass; w/CD player
GMC VAN 93-95 AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player
GMC VAN 96 exc. Savana; AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player
LUMINA VAN 92 w/o remote multi-disc CD player; AM-mono-FM-stereo, w/o cass; w/CD player
LUMINA VAN 93 AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player, ID 12343194
S10/S15/SONOMA 92 w/o remote multi-disc CD player; AM-mono-FM-stereo, w/o cass; w/CD player
S10/S15/SONOMA 93 AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player
SAFARI (GMC) 92 w/o remote multi-disc CD player; AM-mono-FM-stereo, w/o cass; w/CD player
SAFARI (GMC) 93-95 AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player
TYPHOON 92 w/o remote multi-disc CD player; AM-mono-FM-stereo
TYPHOON 93 AM-mono-FM-stereo-CD player

my82roc

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I have that same exact deck with black trim and once again it came from a buick

SC/T02

I got my 1998 Trans Am radio with 7 band. The back plugs do not match the thick factory plugs on my '85. Do they make a way to adapt it?

PurelyPMD

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Are there any of these with the green/blue lighting that will match the Camaros?

Edit - never mind, saw it in post 19 - thanks!

*84TA

http://replacementradios.com/gm-wiri...-a3-p-166.html

SC/T02

So the 20 pin is the newer style. I saw the 21 pin being called that. Just want to make sure the link with the 20 pin is correct.

*84TA

Same thing.

muswp1

The 20 pin style is newer than the 21 pin, but the 21 pin is newer than the 12 pin connector.

*84TA

I could be wrong but I think 20 pin is a typo on the website. It was a 21 pin connector. Some if the buick/olds changed to a 32 pin in the late 90's, but that won't affect you if you're using the 4th gen style Pontiac radio.The link to that plug will work for all GM cars pre 89.

SC/T02

Bought this radio http://www.ebay.com/itm/281696562824?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Got the 20 pin adapter mentioned above. Plugged in. It came on. Stations work, CD player works... Screen is not working. Shows no signs of being broken. Need to know if its broken or the fact that the plug in the back center has nothing plugged into it. Not Bose, and does not appear to be Monsoon. Just a Delco from what I can tell.

FBFAN

Your screen backlight is burnt out. Shine a flashlight at the screen and you should see the channels changing etc. I ordered my replacment bulb from Ebay, and it is an easy replacment.

This is what you need:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PONTIAC-RADIO-DISPLAY-BULB-OEM-DELCO-/161720244123?hash=item25a747179b&vxp=mtr

Glad your cable worked.

SC/T02

That is the issue. I appreciate everyones help on getting this swap done.