MrSRT

I was about to post these 1991 SLP Firebird parts for free to a good home. Luckily as a new member I was not allowed to post in the classifieds. That's because I was just informed they may be very rare and valuable. Can someone verify exactly what they are? I already tossed all the other intake parts, and misc pieces from the wrecked car in the recycle dumpster. As a vette guy, I never thought those old Firebirds had any value, so I cut it up. Not sure why I kept these 2 pieces, but here they are, and I want them gone.

Bob88GTA

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I'll Take em.

MrSRT

I am trying to learn what they are. Now I am curious about the car we cut up. What is so significant about them?

Bob88GTA

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SLP ENGINEERING offered a pacvkage that was available through GM when you ordered a car. It was basically a "GO Fast" package for the Firebird/Trans Am. Now that you know they are worth something, I suppose you're not giving them away .
If you are, I'll pay the shipping to 35761

Bob

MrSRT

Do they still sell parts for it? Maybe I should try to buy the 2 side pieces, and make it a complete unit again? How many of these were made? And the free option is certainly out the door...sorry. I am really curious what this stuff sells for. Maybe I'll be able to retire after all! LOL

aliceempire

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I gotta sneaky suspicion Bob already owns it all......

Bob88GTA

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Funny Alice! I'm still waiting to see how much he wants for it all.

Work with me here MrSRT. Ther're rare, valuable, and I would pay. BUT, i'm not going to go back and forth about the rarity of a part, how many they made, and if parts are available. Do some research, put a price on the stuff, and sell it.

Bob

novaderrik

why are the center mounting bolts at the same angle as the outers? 87 and later should be at a different angle..
did they use the Vette aluminum heads on the Firehawks?

and i love that someone actually thought "hey, these parts from this car that had special stickers on it look different than any other parts that i've ever seen. i better throw them away"..

Bob88GTA

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I thought the same thing when I sold my 1975 SD455 last year for 500 dollars!

aliceempire

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Ahh the ultra special 1975 D port SD455?

Bob88GTA

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How'd you know that?? Yep, that was them.

MrSRT

Fine beat me up! On a serious note, I can say from my last 2 hours of research, it was not a real Firehawk. The car was an automatic. This was likely a transplant, or maybe stuff was purchased off the shelf to upgrade the stock engine.


If your waiting for me to post a price, you can stop. I'm a chassis performance engineer for SRT, and closet corvette collector. I like unique things, and special go fast items. This stuff is no longer available. I want to instead find the missing 2 side pieces and put it on the TPI corvette motor I have laying out back. It will make for an interesting conversation piece displayed with my car collection. Although, if there is somebody that has a real Firehawk that is missing these correct components....I'd of course help that person get these parts back where they belong.

dmccain

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The Firehawks did have the Vette aluminum heads.

MrSRT

L98 or LT1?

MrSRT

Now that it's clear this is not for sale, I'd really like to know what the experts think this stuff is worth. Are we talking $500 money? Seems like it would be a very small market.

Bob88GTA

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"I already tossed all the other intake parts, and misc pieces from the wrecked car in the recycle dumpster"

Had you not done the above, and had the sides, I would've given 900.
500 for what you have now. No Joke.
But since your putting it on that Corvette out back, I'm not interested anymore.
Good luck with your build.

MrSRT

So is it compatible with the iron L98 heads? And do you have a set of the missing sides, or know of a good place to look for them?

Bob88GTA

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I don't have the sides nor do I know the whereabouts of any. Might be tough to find.
Also,
An Exerpt from Autopolis...

"The key to the Firehawk’s performance lies in SLP’s well-placed modifications to the engine and suspension of the stock 5.7 L V8 powered Firebird. Firebird buyers could check the FU2 option when ordering and for about $39,000 would get a full arsenal of SLP performance bits including: modified 350 engine rated at 350 hp, 17 inch special Ronal wheels on special Firestone Firehawk Z rated tires. Other racing car like parts included a full roll cage and cross drilled Brembo brakes (the same ones on the Ferrari F-40).

The high engine output was achieved by using aluminum cylinder heads, a port injection manifold and steel hydraulic roller camshafts among other things. A 6-speed ZF transmission from the Corvette helped manage all that power through a Dana performance rear axle. In essence the Firehawk was as close to a street legal race car as you could get."

MrSRT

Thanks for the info! Apparently the word is out. My phone is getting blown up from people wanting this stuff. Seems the $500 appraisal was on the low side. Really surprising how much demand there is for these.

dmccain

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TTOP350

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PM incoming

PurelyPMD

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Unfortunately value is not linear on these. Just because you have 2/3 of the setup does not make them worth 2/3 the value of a complete one. The odds of finding two orphaned sides out there in the market someplace and being able to pick them up are slim to none.

Bob88GTA

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If he knew what he had, he never would of tossed them in the trash! Kinda stupid if ya ask me. SMH. JMO. Put it between two piese of breab and have. It for lunch tomorrow. MMS

startat2

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This whole thing is interesting to me. We're these parts offered as off the shelf items? If not where did the spare setup come from that was put on an alleged non slp bird? Did this guy cut up a firehawk that had a trans swap in its life?

I'm with the others, good luck on finding the rest of the setup. I would think what you have would be most valuable to some one with the other pieces, or someone who needs a set in better condition.

thtanner

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Always sad to see stuff like this.

I guess you can't even use it missing the side pieces

vinny R

This is typical of what people think pf 3rd gens. Just cut them up, throw the parts away, and scrap the rest, ugh! Who knows what else got thrown away? We all know how through the years people loved to swap engines trans, etc. in these cars. For all we know he could have cut up his retirement if it was a true SLP firehawk!

OrangeBird

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Yep , could be that .....

OR !

The OP could be a Troll out lookin for a rise , using the old "I cut up this worthless junk" taunt knowing full well he didn't cut up anything and just wants to see people's reactions .

As a member of a couple of antique radio/tv boards , I see this a lot . The most valuable antique color tv is the 1953 RCA CT-100 , the very first commercially sold color TV with only 5000 units produced . Sadly , the CT-100 was plagued with an inferior designed CRT that looses it's vacuum ("goes to air") at the literal drop of a hat . Now , due to the rarity AND fragility , a working CT-100 displaying a perfect picture can fetch right in around $10K , not bad for an old , rare , but arguably ugly TV set .

Around once a month we get pictures of CT-100s from brand new members asking what is the best way to turn this "old useless pile of crap" into a fishtank . These Trolls know the reaction they'll get , they thrive on that reaction , and are SO commonplace now that no one usually responds to their posts .

greenyone

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With all the interest in the parts, and if you decide to part with them then why not throw them up on ebay and watch the wolves drive the price up?

aliceempire

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Aren't all 91-92 Firehawks accounted for? As in, all the current owners and therefor future buyers know what it is? This was probably one of the off the shelf intakes. You could buy them separate...a long time ago.

sofakingdom

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Yes you could just order them from SLP, at one time. A LONG TIME ago.

NOTHING else fits them. NOTHING. They fit NOTHING else.

If you have any trouble understanding any of the letters in the word "nothing" I'll try to explain maybe a little but I can't do a whole lot of that. I can fix ignorant (uninformed, lacking knowledge) sometimes but I can't fix stupid.

Which means, if the WHOLE thing, WHOLE, ENTIRE, INTACT, START TO FINISH isn't there, it's worthless except to someone missing the pieces in the pic.

Once again, if you have trouble with any of the letters in the words whole, intact, etc. I'll help a little bit but mostly you need to learn some English instead.

Not worth A DAMN THING to anybody except the folks that have partials of that setup; to those people it's worth MORE THAN GOLD. Literally. (what is gold today... a bit above $1300 an oz??? and your intake weighs ... ? oz ?????) A WHOLE INTACT ENTIRE one of those setups is unthinkable stupid $$$$ these days. (yes there's ALWAYS a "greater fool"... if there's any ONE THING I could bet on about humans, it's that there's ALWAYS a "greater fool". Might take awhile to find em, but they're out there)

Evaluate your seller wisely. Don't rush in. Bob88GTA has already shown himself to be a lowballer and not deserving of you bending over, grabbing your ankles, making a new friend, and giving your parts away to him. Be patient, someone more .... desperate.... will eventually surface. Might take acoupla years but you'll pocket AHELLUVALOT more jingle that way.

You need to go revisit that dumpster. If those parts are gone, you just threw MANY $1000s in the trash. Next time, post BEFORE instead of AFTER.

Bob88GTA

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Thanks for the slam Sofa.....I never LOWBALLED him. He already threw half the pieces in the dumpster. If you read his first post, he wanted this gone. I always valued your advice and opinions on EVERYTHING you ever posted in 3rdgen. Butt hurt.....no. The OP should know what he has....He flew in here like a "Seagull Manager" and craped all over everything, and then left. I dont even need any of the parts. Just found the whole thing interesting.

PurelyPMD

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I've always found the value of something was always far higher than somebody was willing to pay.

The question you should ask is what would you pay for these intake pieces - personally I think Bob's offer was fair. Sofa - I don't think they are quite worth the value you are portraying.....yet. Whoever owns/buys these has to hold on to that investment for the unlikely event they will come across a pair of orphaned sides & we all know the odds of that are lottery like. If he instead decides to fabricate the sides, he'll have a huge investment into the parts and even then have a cobbled together intake that's not the same value as an original.

BOTTLEDZ28

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Sofa always seems to show how rude he can be when he post in this forum. I didnt find your offer to be low by any means.

Bob88GTA

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Thanks.It's all good!

DynoDave43

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It just gives Mr. SRT more water-cooler stories to tell about how rude GM people are when working at the CTC.

OrangeBird

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I still think the op didn't recently "cut up and put in the recycle bin" any car of any sort , I think the op had these two pieces for a long time , knows already EXACTLY what they are , and wanted to see how high price wise folks would leap when he dangled them as though he had unknowingly found the holy grail . For Jesus' sake , he called them "SLP Firebird parts" in his thread title , are you telling me that's a one in a trillion coincidence ? Go type "SLP Firebird" into Google and then come back here and tell me he had no idea they were "Hen's Teeth" valuable before he typed the first word of this thread !

I still say if it has the unmistakable stink of a troll thread , gents I do believe we were visited by none other than Shrek himself

aliceempire

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Bob and I suspected that minute 1, but if it wasn't it was potentially a real score you just have to entertain.

OrangeBird

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Yes Alice I agree 100% that it would have been nice if it was for real , but I smelled a rat from post #1 myself , and this was the basis for this post I posted , post #27 ;

aliceempire

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I didn't mean that as to be offensive to you if you took it that way. Just wanted to point out it sure was entertaining to start out, troll or not.

OrangeBird

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No you didn't offend me , I just wasn't sure if you saw my earlier post and wanted to post it again . The OP hasn't been back so I think he got what he was looking for . Whatever that was .....

Bob88GTA

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HA! Yeah, I guess he don't want my "Lowball" offer offer of $500

92GTA

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"I already tossed all the other intake parts, and misc pieces from the wrecked car in the recycle dumpster."

Wow lol.

Aside from Sofa's slam of Bob88GTA, the rest of his post was legit.

OrangeBird

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Bob , I thought your offer , especially considering the unobtainum missing side pieces , was right in the ballpark of how high I'd go if such an intake interested me . Which it don't , since I don't have the rest of an SLP Firebird to go with it . Course , I don't believe for one minute that the OP ever had one either .....

92GTA

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All you guys know this stuff was sold thru Jegs and probably Summit way back in the day when it was new? Lots of these floating around that were never on a real Firehawk.

Upwards of 250 of them is a number I have heard often, half the planned Firehawk production of 500, which of course was a total failure and only sold 25. The rest of the parts they had needed to be sold thru other channels.

TTOP350

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It was sold through summit and I think Dave Hamberger told me there over 500 intakes made.

rarebmx

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The T Ram was on Firehawks only as a package.
You could buy them from Summit aftermarket however the numbers sold was limited. According to a guy I know locally who bought one of the Summit units,there was a fire at the production facility very early on & the original molds were destroyed. The number sold was somewhere under 250 including the Firehawks.
To give a number....I offered him $2,000 to come off his complete setup that's just sitting in his garage & he was not interested in that number. I'm still working on buying it because it is complete & fairly rare.
I don't think anyone ever threw out some of the pieces & kept some of the pieces. Every car guy, engineer or backyard mechanic would easily realize that all the pieces went together as a set....

bk2life

No car enthusiast would cut up or throw away parts to a very odd intake or any other odd car part for that matter.
That's like tossing a cross ram intake, its odd, and very rarely seen, so it must be worth something.
finally, i re-read this thread and figured it out, he is a vette owner. Their a strange breed. --my opinion of course

rarebmx

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Agree with above post. You know anything attached to the intake is part of the intake.
It's like finding a 6 pack off a 440 & tossing the air cleaner & carbs.....
This Mr. SRT is not being up front. Lots more to this story & 2 + 2 = 3 in this thread & all his post on other threads.
If he's a Vette collector he didn't throw away even the gaskets that came with this let alone the other parts.

paulo57509

You're not kidding here.

I have a Tri-Power setup for '61-'64 Pontiac; complete from the air cleaners to manifold that I've been hanging on to since the early 70's.

I also have an Offenhauser manifold for the same vintage Pontiac.

I passed on an old Pontiac dual-quad "bathtub" intake manifold years ago, which I should have grabbed. It far from the $2k they want for them these days.

I just can't get myself to get rid of any of it. Part of me feels that a '62 Grand Prix will land in my lap some day.

I do miss my '63 Tri-Power Bonneville....

TTOP350

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Forgot to update this, deal was made and the parts have changed hands.