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Old 01-27-2011, 08:04 PM   #1
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T5 from camaro 93-97 26 spline

hi, there is a tranny i found for sale,,it's a T5 out of a camaro 93-97 model with V6...but it has 26 splines...just wondering,,,would this fit on a V8 car and bellhousing?...the 26 splnes would be good for the V8 clutch ..just wondering,,bolts right on?
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Re: T5 from camaro 93-97 26 spline

No

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Re: T5 from camaro 93-97 26 spline

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Not even close
thanks for the response,,but why?...let's forget the fact it's a V6 model and the gear ratio is different from a V8 T5,,but will it bolt up to a V8 bellhousing?..and it has a 26 spline input shaft like the V8 T5...what else changes?...
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Re: T5 from camaro 93-97 26 spline

Because it's different.

The entire bolt pattern where it bolts to the BH is simply .... different. Won't work. Doesn't seem too hard to understand. Look at pics of ones for sale on eBay or something; I think you'll figure it right out.
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Because it's different.

The entire bolt pattern where it bolts to the BH is simply .... different. Won't work. Doesn't seem too hard to understand. Look at pics of ones for sale on eBay or something; I think you'll figure it right out.
ok,,that's what i wanted to know...i didn't see the tranny ,,just a pic and coudn't tell the front bolt pattern...so the front of this model T5 won't bolt up to a V8 bellhousing because it's different...thanks for your help!
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Re: T5 from camaro 93-97 26 spline

i was wrong....
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Re: T5 from camaro 93-97 26 spline

A thirdgen V6 T5 will absolutely bolt up to a V8 bellhousing. I've done it, I know it works. I am not aware of any changes to the T5 case for the 93-97 V6's. I can't see them redesigning the T5 case, but I suppose is possible. IIRC, the 3.4 V6 is also a 60* design so its bellhousing should still be the same or at least very similiar to a thirdgen V6 bellhousing.
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the only major diffrnece in the 4th and 3rd gen t5 is the spline count

3rd gen is 14
4th gen is 26
ok,,so the 4th gen T5 V6 has 26 splines,,,and will bolt up to a 3rd gen v8 bellhousing?
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Re: T5 from camaro 93-97 26 spline

NO the 4th gen T-5 will not bolt up to a V8 bell housing. The bolt pattern is different.

If instead of listening to the people who have never seen one and are just telling you what they think you want to hear, you would just go to eBay and LOOK AT ONE, it will be IMMEDIATELY obvious. So obvious it hurts. You won't have ANY trouble figuring it out.

So here, I'll do it FOR YOU:

4th gen 6-cyl trans http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEVR...item2c59e002c1

One with the same bolt pattern that fits a V8 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/S10-T...item2c5a5e5b9d

Not sure about the 4th gen BH. It's conceivable that you could put the 4th gen T-5 into a 3rd gen car with a 4th gen BH; but that BH won't bolt to a V8. So you're still left with, the 4th gen T-5 won't bolt to a V8.
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Re: T5 from camaro 93-97 26 spline

thanks,,i never saw one up close...i see the difference...
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Re: T5 from camaro 93-97 26 spline

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Umm... ,,,, ... yeah....

eBay is your friend in matters like this. Not just car parts. People go to a GREAT DEAL of trouble to put up the best pics of their whatever that they can; it's gotta be the world's richest resource of pictures of .... things. My advice to people who otherwise would post WRONG non-information like all that drivel above would be, instead of arguing about stuff like that, USE IT to your benefit.
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Re: T5 from camaro 93-97 26 spline

I did use Ebay to look at the pics of T5's before I posted my answer. I wasn't able to find anything conclusive on there. If you look at the two links posted by sofa, they bolt pattern appears to be the same. It looks like they may have just added some reinforcement between the two bolts on the driver's side of the case. If you look closely at the pics, the bolt holes appear to be directly over each other on both transmissions. That's why I said they "should still be the same or at least very similiar to a thirdgen".

It may be better to compare pics of the bellhousings where you can clearly see the bolt patterns of the transmissions.

Thirdgen V6: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-92...item4aa6615310

Thirdgen V8: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Camar...item45f84fb239

Fourthgen V6: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-94...item4aa803268e
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umm...you can bolt a v6 trans to a v8 bellhousing there are threads all over the place on here about doing it
i have bolted up a V6 3rd gen tranny to a 3rd gen v8 bellhousing,,i know it will work,,but never seen or heard anything about the 4th gen V6 T5 bolt up to a 3rd gen V8 bellhousing...
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Re: T5 from camaro 93-97 26 spline

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I did use Ebay to look at the pics of T5's before I posted my answer. I wasn't able to find anything conclusive on there. If you look at the two links posted by sofa, they bolt pattern appears to be the same. It looks like they may have just added some reinforcement between the two bolts on the driver's side of the case. If you look closely at the pics, the bolt holes appear to be directly over each other on both transmissions. That's why I said they "should still be the same or at least very similiar to a thirdgen".

It may be better to compare pics of the bellhousings where you can clearly see the bolt patterns of the transmissions.

Thirdgen V6: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-92...item4aa6615310

Thirdgen V8: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Camar...item45f84fb239

Fourthgen V6: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-94...item4aa803268e
Thirdgen V6 pattern is a rectangle, tilted 17deg. to the driver side with the lower passenger side bolt moved out about an inch so the spread across the lower bolts is wider.

Fourthgen V6 pattern has a wider spread across the top between bolts.

If you want to try and bolt the trans. upsidedown and find that it still doesn't work for the OP, go right ahead.
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Thirdgen V6 pattern is a rectangle, tilted 17deg. to the driver side with the lower passenger side bolt moved out about an inch so the spread across the lower bolts is wider.

Fourthgen V6 pattern has a wider spread across the top between bolts.

If you want to try and bolt the trans. upsidedown and find that it still doesn't work for the OP, go right ahead.
And that is why I suggested looking at the bolt pattern on the bellhousings. All the pics I found on Ebay, and posted by Sofa did not give a clear view of the bolt pattern and spacing on the front of the transmissions.

Both generations tilt the transmission towards the driver's side.
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And that is why I suggested looking at the bolt pattern on the bellhousings. All the pics I found on Ebay, and posted by Sofa did not give a clear view of the bolt pattern and spacing on the front of the transmissions.

Both generations tilt the transmission towards the driver's side.
it would be great to have a 4th gen V6 T5 and a 3rd gen T5 V8 bellhousing and figure things out,,i think it would help a lot of other people curious about this ....
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Re: T5 from camaro 93-97 26 spline

I was also under the impression that the 4th gen T5 had a longer input shaft then the 3rd gen V8 T5, but I'm frequently wrong.
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Re: T5 from camaro 93-97 26 spline

all i wanted to know was if this 4th gen t5 would fit on a 3rd gen V8 t5,,,because it has 26 splines like the 3rd gen v8 clutch...i never have seen one up close,,,there are a few for sale real cheap...but like these guys here said,,the front bolt holes on the t5 4th gen are different and won't fit my v8 bellhousing ,,it's too bad,,because it would make a good temporary replacement...this is why i ask here...lot of helpful and knowledgeable people..
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