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I was wondering if anyone knows of a company or website that offers clear tail light lenses for thirdgen Camaros. If you have any information for me I'd sure appreciate it. Thanks.
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ive been lookig too cant find nothing nobody has em the closest and stupidest thing i found where those gto covers clear i had the tinted covers but kept getting pulled over by police so i took them off
I know what you mean. I put the GTO blackouts on right after I bought my 91 RS and 2 days later I get pulled over. Oh well, I guess they kinda looked like crap anyways. Thanks man.
if u get clear altezza lights, y dont u go get a civic... im sorry but you have a REAL car... do not put on clear euro lights... please... I pray that no one makes them any time in the future... Blackouts are nice... but clear lights are a no no for a thirdgen.. sell ur RS and get a Civic... please
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i whole heartedly agree...euro lenses and clear lenses are not for our cars, go buy a civic or a ford if you want that bs. If you want no nonsense power, stick with what you got and forget the **** ****.
I don't remember asking for people's opinions about clear tail light lenses. I was just wondering if anyone out there has seen them available for thirdgen Camaros. For those of you who have offered help on locating this product, your assistance is much appreciated. Now that I know what everyone THINKS about clear tail light lenses, let's be both helpful and productive. Thanks.
buddy, we are just lettin u know what ur deal is. Even euro lenses for 4th gens are hidden, cause they do not belong on the cars.... We are telling u what u really feel deep down inside, and that is that u need a civic. Your saying that you are gunna spend probably around $300-350 (maybe more, thoes lights are huge) for a set of lights?300 is a set of headers or a cam or a cat back or for some tools to do some really mods to the car... the money could be spent on some performance mods, not visual. Visual mods, as u will find on this board, are not a big item for our cars... Other then SS hoods or the Aero wing, there isnt much for stupid looking body kits, wings, and lights (do a search on the Evo body kit) i hope this has been helpful and productive.
Have a nice day
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Hooker Coated Long Tubes : Magnaflow Dual Exhaust : Full PTFB.com Suspension : Bilstein Shocks 93 Caprice 9C1 350 L05 auto
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Well, I thought that clear tail light lenses would be cool because I REALLY do not like the amber (yellow/orange) turn signal color. I put in clear side markers so now all of the turn signal lights are hyperwhite except for the rear. I have a friend who actually painted his amber lenses a transparent red. They turned out fairly nice. I realize now that no one makes altezza lenses for our car, so does anyone have ideas on getting rid of those two ugly amber squares at the rear of my car?
P.S. I'd definitely keep my RS if someone offered to trade for a Civic...and that's the truth.
You could just paint the yellow turn signal with testors model paint. I think the color is candy apple red or something.Sorry don't have a pic but i know some other people have done it on the board, looks cool.try a search and see what you come up with.
Yeah, i don't get how people bash the tail light idea and say, its only for "ric ers" when some have the clear side markers! Whats up with that? Its the same principle, different spot on your car! But then you would say defensively, "but it looks good"! Well, what if there were great aftermarket tail lights for our cars, then you would sing another story. I'm just saying, if they were to look anything like 95% of the ones on imports and other cars, then no thanks for me. But there are a few designs i like of the tail lights. It all depends and it definately would be MY choice. I say if you want something, do it. No one is paying for the crap you throw on your car so who cares what they say. I have the GTS tail light covers and right now i think they look good. But who knows, maybe they will come out with a nice set of tail lights for our cars. Time will only tell. And another thing, if they are priced similar to the import's, then no way! I will not pay over $200 just for tail lights that are plastic, took less than an hour to make, and that will eventually fog up! No way, IMO they are over priced pieces of sh it.
like alex said why dont u get a civic. those stupid lights belong on the ***** cars. and so far i havent seen anyone one here with finished or even in the processe pics yet.
first off...
"buddy, we are just lettin u know what ur deal is. Even euro lenses for 4th gens are hidden, cause they do not belong on the cars.... We are telling u what u really feel deep down inside, and that is that u need a civic. Your saying that you are gunna spend probably around $300-350 (maybe more, thoes lights are huge) for a set of lights?300 is a set of headers or a cam or a cat back or for some tools to do some really mods to the car... the money could be spent on some performance mods, not visual. Visual mods, as u will find on this board, are not a big item for our cars... Other then SS hoods or the Aero wing, there isnt much for stupid looking body kits, wings, and lights (do a search on the Evo body kit) i hope this has been helpful and productive.
Have a nice day"
well said, bigals87z28. i couldnt agree with you more.
second of all,
altezza tail lights and clear side markers may be the same principle, but there is a humongous difference between the visual effect of the two. some may disagree with me, but i think clear side markers are a subtle visual mod that, at the least, dont harm the design of the car. at best, they may make the car look a bit cleaner by eliminating the red and amber standing out (especially on a lighter colored car).
eurolights, on the other hand, stand out like a riced up puke green civic on the hot rod power tour. their use of chrome is very uncalled for... it doesnt help illumination and it serves no purpose except for looking like sh!t. on dark cars, it just sticks out... on light cars, it appears to change the design of the rear end by eliminating the design of the original taillight and slapping in some circular red pods (with our boxy third gens, the roundness of the red pods in eurolights just dont fit in). i find them useless, offensive, and a complete waste of money
if you want to do this, then go ahead. its your car, and spend your money however you want. but my gut would wrench in pain if i saw a thirdgen with eurolights on it, and i would imagine alot of others would, too.
I say again, I posted this topic in order to receive useful information on locating altezza or any other type of CLEAR tail light lense for 3rd gen Camaros. I did not ask for anyone's opinions on this particular product. I noticed that someone posted a topic labeled: "what does everyone think of euro tail lights?" THAT is the place where you put in your two cents about how euro tail light look like s&@$. Again, thanks to all those who have actually given me some helpful information.
Ok, this really is useless info here. People are getting their panties in a bunch over something that does not exist. I say, if they make them, and they look good TO ME, then i would buy them. End of story. But like i mentioned, the overall look of the "altezza" lights are really bad IMO and therefore ,i believe if they were to make them for our cars, they would look like piss to say the least. Plus, not too mention the price for piss now a days. lol Oh well, i like to say, "don't sing it, bring it!" But, there is nothing to show/bring here so i don't see a need for this. Damn, the more i type, the more i probally don't make any sense and i shold go to bed now. Later
man u guys are rough. i havent seen any clear tailights. i think hamspiced? is trying to mold his own out of plexiglass and a heat gun machine thinger mabober thats homemade.
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how about this answer. u will never find a company that makes them, u will have to make ur own if u want them. thats the only way u get those stupid *** clear lights.
as i keep looking and reading posts here theres always somthing that stands out each day.......
for instance this thread is what i noticed today.......
i can not wait until the day that all the gm only guys come out of their cave and seriously realize that there is a world out side this message board and in that world people try to make there cars uniqe and diffrent.....
now i know theres alot of people that dislike or even hate the look of these dirrerences..... but the main thing is we can't hate what we havn't seen.....
have anyone ever seen a true clear taillight for our cars???
yeah we can say we have seen clear lx mustang lights, and the ever popular euros that alot of imports have.... personally i like the clear lx's but thats me.......
to judge somthing before you have seen it is being a hippocrit of the worst kind..... yeah we might have seen a design that looks terible on another car, but i might look good on a different car......
i think for the number of people that hates the clears there is a same amount that would like to see apc or others make some....
personally i'd like to see a true clear version of the firebird taillight for third gens, but others will hate the thought.....
the main thing is to be curtious to others on here and try to be open minded of things..... if we don't we will be in an awful place.....
Thank you badgta...you know exactly what these Message Boards are for. I couldn't have worded it any better. It's people like you who I really appreciate getting input from.
and its people like you that make me mad that u drive a car that has so much history behind it and u destroy it with euro lights and under body kits with huge wings and 10 12' subs... im sorry, i know a lot of cars have them, and i see more and more camaros with them.. and it makes me upset.. sometimes there done in good taste (kandie has a nice set up).. I know im not the only one who feels this. My generation is in love with body kits and systems... no more performance.. just how big are ur rims, whats ur system, how many levels to your wing... its a sad sight and i hate when people bring it over to domestic RWD cars. Mustangs are becoming more and more ****-like. Im sorry for ranting but u have to understand that the majority of the people on this site want to keep the heartbeat alive. If you want to make the lights, go right ahead... but remember... its a camaro, not a civic
Clear lights on a thirdgen? I dont see any harm in that. If the **** rockets used more and more blackouts on there cars, would you condone the use of them? Clear lights aren't a big problem, but I will agree that some of the (ex.)three-tiered spoilers out there have no place on a thirdgen. I dont know who some of you people see around driving thirdgen f-bodies, but around here in northern california I can gladly say that most teens my age who own thirdgens have little respect for the import crowd. I have yet to see a camaro owner around here go crazy with the import trends. Neon lights and sub woofers, make a better arguement then that. That stuff has been around plenty of years and is not partial to any one crowd. Rim size doesnt matter on f-bodies (suv's they do), neither do stereo decibels or even levels on a spoiler, most everyone still strives to have a fast camaro.
yeah the clear lights in my thoughts arent very RICY its just that we think its gay when we see them on an econo car, i mean i would like (for hypothetical purposes)to just see how they look, depending on the design. A friend of mine was showing me a little design of how he would make them, and it didnt look half bad. but i must comment RS boy, if you wanted to make an ordinary car look flashy, get an import, dont go trying to make an already awsome looking car and turn it into something that people will laugh at when they see it.
Originally posted by junkie lol bash the clears ..funny think if most of you saw it done youd probably want it ..lol...just think 1 more set of oem tails up for grabs
nope id be insane with rage, and i would bash them in literally.
then id dork slap the guy who put them on, and the guy that made them
why, b/c you Care that much? There are some fugly cars on this site, some which i can not stand to look at. But i don't loose sleep over it. I have never seen lights on ours cars so i don't really know what to think of them for our cars. If someone wants to blow money for them and they happen to look rediculously funny to me, then more power to them. Its not an import thing, its an appearance thing. Everyone has their own idea of what looks good, not just one person, end of story.
Somewhere around here there was a picture of a silver Camaro with clear tail lights. I believe he took a stock set of tails and cut the outer 'lens' part away from the rear 'reflector' part. I think he found that the red and yellow parts of the lens were actually a separate piece behind the outer, clear part. He then removed the colored plastic, and installed colored bulbs. The effect was a big silver/white panel, like a giant reverse light, but lit up the approprate colors.
It looked good on silver, and would look good on a white car, but I dunno about other colors.
If you want 'Altezza' style tails on your car, more power to you, I think it could work, albiet with a custom re-styling of the tail light panel, otherwise you get an under designed look like those Vette tail light conversions.
I think it might be a time to put out a challenge to all of our resident Photoshoppers and 'Re-Stylists' to come up with some new tail light ideas. Maybe it will inspire someone to do something really creative
i am by far (i think) the one that has the most modded camaro on this site(although i havent seen crazy hawaii's lately)...and i strive for making my iroc look better then it already does...
i am in the midst of making my own altezzas and WHEN they make it big and all you non believers buy them from me, ill be laughing all the way to the bank...
heres a little taste of things to come...AND READ THE BOTTOM OF MY SIG...IT TELLS ALOT!!
iroc2nv
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ascd ss hood,fx designs front bumper cover,apc side marker lights,soundspeed motorsports vs cavalier side skirts,andys autosport celica gts rear bumper cover,jsp apache wing (72 inches) 20 inch american racing 20 inches strong rims, 225/35/20 tires, mustang altezza tail lights,7 stage black pearl paint with 5 stage pearlescent flames
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That picture doesn't look half bad. The only thing i would change is the testerosta body kit and the spoiler. Maybe a nice 5" spoiler. So, is this all talk or do you have stuff in production, now? Its one thing to put it on paper you know!
Hey IROC2NV, those sketches look great man. If you are the first official producer of altezza lights for thirdgens, I'll be your first official customer. Keep up the good work man.
there are millons of camaros and firebirds on the road today.....
and if they all were identical it would be a very sad place to be......
yeah i think 6" wings are a little too much for me but maybe not the dude putting it on his car...........
here were i live the only firebirds ya see are the ones that are sitting with rusting bodys and blowing blue smoke out the ***......
when i pull up in a half decent car then it makes em **** their pants...... they haven't ever seen one thats in ok shape and runs ok.... i suprised alot of people when i pull into town here......
especially with cobra r rims on it....... theyr'e eyes pop out of there head....... it's differen't....
you can't be close minded fellas..... hell i bet money that there are some gm designers driveing ricers and ford cars, are they traders? why no.... they just don't want somthing everyone else has.....
i took the red lenses out of my tails... and i dare ya to call me ****...... i got tired of them glowing orange when the sun hit them....... and i wanted a clear taillight to match my polished rims........ is that a crime? am i truley a *****? the awnser is no i am not.... being differenm't dosen't make you a ***** or trader or anything thats been said above...... i think eveyone will be shocked to see how many people has the clears or whatever apc makes when they come out..... it will be somthing to see let me tell ya.....
come to the darkside luke...... join us so called ricers......
clear tail lights look cheap and plastic if you ask me....they look like something some jackass made on the floor of their garage after a 30 back of schlitz ice and smelling too much epoxy.
they are part of the ***** culture so if you want them, or have them and deny there is any ***** in you, your only lying to yourself. Your not better than the v6 convertible camar down the street with phony SS stickers where the badges would be and fake chrome dual tips with an ultra z hood on it. You might not be quite as demented as they are, but your on your way. the next thing you know you'll be driving a 3000GT or a honda.
this site is going to a bad place man....get out while you still can, before you become one of "them"
383backinclack or whatever your name is, then leave. noones needs your comments to bring them down. they wanna do, more power to em. as for ironc2nv, i love your car pic/idea/plans in the making. i think it will make your car pretty awesome and yet custom. wait a min., custom isnt that what most people want but yet ppl yell out and cry in pain when they see custom ideas. i dont get it. i am done with here good job to u guys who love to think
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i stand behind everyone who hates the clear tail lights. they should only be designed for imports, no they should only be designed for hondas. it would make me cry to see them on a third gen, its bad enought when i see them on other domestic cars. if you want "euro's" you might as well buy a honda, you have a real car and putting that junk on it will scar it for life. thats just my opinion and im sure several will stand behind me. enjoy you real car and make fun of everyone who drives hondas and wish they could be just like you sitting behind the wheel of that pure american muscle machine.
Originally posted by del91_305 i stand behind everyone who hates the clear tail lights. they should only be designed for imports, no they should only be designed for hondas. it would make me cry to see them on a third gen, its bad enought when i see them on other domestic cars. if you want "euro's" you might as well buy a honda, you have a real car and putting that junk on it will scar it for life. thats just my opinion and im sure several will stand behind me. enjoy you real car and make fun of everyone who drives hondas and wish they could be just like you sitting behind the wheel of that pure american muscle machine.
you know what though???
i have the best of both worlds.... i have the raw torque/horse power of an american sports car and the modern styling of a new "instyle" car.. i know that i have the opportunity to win alot of car shows... both import and domestic...face it..if you dont go with the times you become a memory.. think about it..
Acctually i must say when i first saw Iroc2nv's car i was like WTF? but what i didnt realize was it was in the middle of production and when its all done theres gonna be a theme everythings gonna flow and its gonna look really badass, personally i think the stock taillights would take away from the look of his car if he kept em on te finished product.
Originally posted by iroc2nv you know what though???
i have the best of both worlds.... i have the raw torque/horse power of an american sports car and the modern styling of a new "instyle" car.. i know that i have the opportunity to win alot of car shows... both import and domestic...face it..if you dont go with the times you become a memory.. think about it..
iroc2nv
actually no, trying to be trendy is usually what lands you on memory lane......look at cultural trends...cars included.... as a whole. the best and brightest always stick around, almost indefinitely. Which is evident in the fact that classic street rods and muscle cars are still so popular....and even most ricers would agree that the 60's era and later muscle cars are worthy of respect.
Finding the way of the future with respect to cars, as with all things does not mean following the trends or pop culture....which is what the whole euro tail light and tacky r*ce thing is about right now. In 10 years when that isnt cool anymore, your still gonna find plenty of people who are third gen enthusiasts (and other cars for that matter)
Am i saying that the whole import scene will go away? certainly not, but i am saying that best and brightest of what it has to offer is all that will be left when its no longer fashionable. cars with sleeker lower lines will be here to stay. Smaller cars are probably here for the duration as well. You will see more AWD cars and a resurgence of RWD cars (happening already).
FWD is not gonna go away, but it will fade drastically. It was developed and continues for economic reasons, not because its good for performance. The driveline in a FWD car is a single, pre assembled unit. its smaller and cheaper to produce so it makes perfect sense for car manufacturers. However, it violates a basic principle of marketing....always please the customer completely. consumers will in time always gravitate towards that which is better, not that which is necessarily cheaper. But the best and brightest from this era will stay around.....and that is the development of AWD.
Finally, functionality is key....form follows function. The pretty stuff isnt what stands the test of time, its what gets the job done. The wings, the body kits, the neon, etc its all fashion. Its the hardware that gets the job done that will be around for decades to come. Check back with me in 5 or 10 years, i promise i wont say i told ya so
This topic is going to envoke nothing but OPINIONS!!!!!!!! I personally dont feel that I like his design, but thats me. Does it make him "Wrong" because thats what he wants to do with "HIS" car? No, its his car, and he can do whatever he feels like he wants to do with it... So why dont you all pick up your ballls, and worry about YOUR cars!
Originally posted by Jason92Z This topic is going to envoke nothing but OPINIONS!!!!!!!! I personally dont feel that I like his design, but thats me. Does it make him "Wrong" because thats what he wants to do with "HIS" car? No, its his car, and he can do whatever he feels like he wants to do with it... So why dont you all pick up your ballls, and worry about YOUR cars!
of course you are right for the most part....but thats what everything on a message board is usually about...peoples opinions. and your gonna hear them anyway whether its here, or out on the street.
and what i just said before this post isnt opinion, its a tried and true maxim that has stood the test of time for hundreds of years. Im just trying to make the distinction between what is fashiobable and trendy, and what is really going to be the future because it is sound and worthwhile.
Well, I truly respect what you are trying to do. Your designs are really original and will require TONS for work. I dont think it will look as bad as some of the 3rd gens I have seen, but Its just not my thing. But that doesnt mean anything, thats just me. My hat is off to anyone who is willing to take a wrench, or a cutting tool for that matter, to their car and mold it into what they feel fits their personality. Even though it may not be what I would want on my car, i commend you for turning your own wrenches.
wait i think i get his point...so your saying you would rather see a stock unmodified model t at a car show???i hate to be the bearer of bad news but muscle cars were a fad too ..man it would really suck if no one modded there rides
