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Old 08-16-2008, 11:08 AM   #1
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What is the difference between the 5526 and the 8226. They look exactly the same.
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Re: MSD GM ignition coils

You know,

I was just searching for this answer. I did a comparison on summit's website and they have the same exact specs. Same voltages same resistances. Everything was the same. I think it's more of a off brand versus a name brand senario. Even though it 's the same manufacturer. So I think I am gonna buy the street fire for $10 cheaper..
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Re: MSD GM ignition coils

Day late and a few bucks short.

Street Fire is an offshore (pacific rim/china) brand developed by MSD. Sort of MSD's house brand. Not to say its a bad product but it IS made in china/taiwan/vietnam. I know this because when MSD launched the line a few years ago, HotRod Mag had a blurb on what it was.
I suspect the parts are the same, just lower QC spec. I dont know if MSD warranties the SF parts. Caveat Emptor (buyer beware)

IF MSD warranties the SF line, and its just a stock-ish cruiser, Id buy one. Im running a new GM coil on my car (came in a box with the car). An 80kmile 305 doesnt need a giant accel coil-a-saurus IMO
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I just put the blaster on mine because the factory coil starts pooping out at around 4500 or a little lower...
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I`ve had 2 of the gm style blaster coils go out on me.One was shooting fire out the side of the tower where the plug went.The other one failed at a red light for no apparent reason.REPLACED IT THIS TIME WITH A STOCK COIL.Not a problem since.I went through to msd coils in under 3 years and 12,000 to 15,000 miles.Worst thing is,I called MSD,told them the problem and they gave me some bs number and told me I had to pay shipping to send them in to be fixed.No problem I thought,It will be worth the shipping cost and I`ll have a backup coil.Almost 2 months later when they sent them back,i opened the package to see big yellow stickers wrapped around them that said"unrepairable"

I dont notice the stock one poop out around 4500 rpm`s.From all my research for stock to mild builds the a well maintained stock system is adequate.I notice no differance between the way my car performs with msd digital 6 with MSD blaster coil or digital 6 and stock coil.I may buy another aftermarket coil after my ported tpisbase/slp runner intake goes on but the stock one stays in the trunk.

Oh and BTW I had to send in like 20 bucks each for the work on the msd coils for repairs and didnt get that back either.;l
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damn.... I've had my blaster coil for 6 years with no problem
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Re: MSD GM ignition coils

I have the 8226 and my buddy has the 5526, you can totally tell the difference in quality. MSD 8226 just looks so much better, feels real, and the streetfire feels and looks like garbage. Is $10 really something needing to research over.

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Re: MSD GM ignition coils

My MSD coil just died after 5-6 years, pretty good I guess. But after seeing that MSD is starting to go offshore for manufacturing, I went with the Jegs brand coil. Made in USA and it works great. I notice no difference between the MSd and Jegs coils, and I was datalogging at the time.
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My MSD coil just died after 5-6 years, pretty good I guess. But after seeing that MSD is starting to go offshore for manufacturing, I went with the Jegs brand coil. Made in USA and it works great. I notice no difference between the MSd and Jegs coils, and I was datalogging at the time.
MSD is still USA made, their StreetFire line on the other hand is their offshore brand, so buy MSD not Streetfire and you will get the quality that MSD has always offered.

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i used a jegs brand coil and i lasted about 2 months went to msd and ive had it on for three years with no problem
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Not exactly what I want to hear. But so far so good.
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I went with the Hypertech 55k package, no complaints, car fires immediately with it, very nice. It was even drenched, dried, drenched in water, dried, no problems. (knock on wood)
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Re: MSD GM ignition coils

yea i put the blaster on my car now the street fire just looked like a piece of crap i saw it at autozone. could always go with accel? im not sure how their repuation is but i had one in one of my camaros and it was on over a year at least with no problems.
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Just wondering , Is the 8226 Also made in china??
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Both of these are the 8226 , what are the differences? Are they both made in China? I thought only the "StreetFire" line was made in china..


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FWIW I've owned MANY MSD products in my life and both my 6AL and the MSD "Blaster Coil" that is pictured in the bottom of the two, BOTH sucked my junk. The 6AL took a dirt nap within months and my blaster coil took a dirt nap after 6k miles. I put in a stock GM coil for now to resolve the issue. NOW, having said that, I did just put in a MSD distributor and 6+ Digital box so I'm willing to give them another chance. I WON'T put another MSD coil in though. I'm going to be probably switching over to Mallory soon.
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I was wondering about mallory products my self, considering an ignition box if they have one. After reading the posts on MSD, I'm going to stay away period. I started wondering when I saw the shelves at Autozone and Advance Auto filled with MSD products; less quality going for more quantity popularity sales? I don't know but I won't chance it now, thanks guys.


EDIT: Just scoped out the Mallory boxes, sweeeeet, I really like the second one, the Hyfire.

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MSD Iginition #84023 cap, rotor, etc..
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MSD Ignition #35599 sparkplug cables
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I`ve had my msd digital 6 for atleast 4 years maybe 5.Not one issue.The coils are a differant issue.Went through 2 in no time as stated earlier in this thread.I will not buy another!
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Are modern ones that bad compared to old ones, or am I just lucky that my original is still going strong after 24 years?
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Re: MSD GM ignition coils

Hope I'm not going off the beaten path, but did anyone try any of the Jacobs coils. They used to be pretty good stuff, but I also think they were bought out by Accel IIRC. They are still sold under the Jacobs name.

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Kinda a bit off subject but I bought the street fire distributor thinking it should easily out perform stock. Well doing a second gear burn out where the car has a load on it it wont rev past 5000 I called msd and told the guy I bought this with hopes I could get reliable spark at 7500 and he just laughed and said id be lucky to get 5000 out of it. So just a small example of the street fire brand. As far as quality goes of the product it seems fine just the insides dont work up to what I think they should. Guess thats what I get for going cheap.
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[quote][/Kinda a bit off subject but I bought the street fire distributor thinking it should easily out perform stock. Well doing a second gear burn out where the car has a load on it it wont rev past 5000 I called msd and told the guy I bought this with hopes I could get reliable spark at 7500 and he just laughed and said id be lucky to get 5000 out of it. So just a small example of the street fire brand. As far as quality goes of the product it seems fine just the insides dont work up to what I think they should. Guess thats what I get for going cheap.QUOTE]

Well,not to laugh with him but a stock type coil will not give you the ability to rev much more than stock.What else is done to your ignition system?With a 400 small block of doom I hope everything is top notch aftermarket stuff.I have probably more ignition than my engine needs at the time,not the other way around.
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Well that was the thing I figured an aftermarket msd street fire set up should at least rev past 5 grand but guess I was wrong ha. So far the igniton system is just what I stated and the diffrent module( pn 83645) to go inside it. Havent tested it out yet but I wont get my hopes up.
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From reading these posts I am wondering if my MSD Blaster coil is the culprit for my car acting wierd at WOT. I floor it and when it gets to about 4500 rpm's, the tach shoots back down to almost zero and I have to let go of the gas to get it going again. It's not the TV cable as I took care of that already, the fuel pumps are running good and clear, gas cap on good, new wires, plugs, rotor and cap.

Don't get me wrong, the car starts up well and drives good, just when I floor it like if it has a limiter which it doesn't.
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Best way to find out is put your stock or a known good coil on and take it for a spin.
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Well guess I am going to have to buy a new one since the stock one has seen the way of the Dodo bird. Was thinking about a Hypertech coil since it comes with a fresh cap and rotor with the package from Summit. Guess it wont hurt to have a spare on hand.
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then which performance ignition coil is better?
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I guess I am going to find out tomorrow. Got overnight shipping on the coil/cap kit. Didn't really want to wait. I'll report on the performance difference, if any, when I install the items.
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From reading these posts I am wondering if my MSD Blaster coil is the culprit for my car acting wierd at WOT. I floor it and when it gets to about 4500 rpm's, the tach shoots back down to almost zero and I have to let go of the gas to get it going again. It's not the TV cable as I took care of that already, the fuel pumps are running good and clear, gas cap on good, new wires, plugs, rotor and cap.

Don't get me wrong, the car starts up well and drives good, just when I floor it like if it has a limiter which it doesn't.
Do you have a 6A or 6AL? If so, that is what is causing your tach to flip out when you go over 3,000 RPMs. While it is annoying as hell, there isn't anything wrong. What is happening is at 3,000 RPMs the 6A(L) switches from multiple sparks to one steady spark. This causes your tach to trip out. The fix is easy. All you have to do is remove the inline tach filter. I don't have the directions handy, but you can find them in the MSD catalog (which I think you can download). Hope that helps.
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That's what I went with, the Hypertech cap/coil/rotor. It works great, car fires right up niiice and ignition does not cut out at all. The Moroso 8mm blue wires don't hurt either.
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Just have the blaster coil and not the 6a or l. Got my new Hypertech Cap, Rotor and Coil today. Going to install it tomorrow and then report back any change. Hope it works. If not, then back to the drawing board.
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Well the Hypertech coil, cap and rotor are installed. Took my car out for a spin. The first thing I did notice on first start up, was there was less smoke out of the exhaust. So I take it there is better spark. On acceleration, the car did perform better than with the MSD cap, rotor and coil. The WOT issue is still there, but I at least can get the car to 5000 rpm's with out trying to die out sooner.

So all in all the Hypertech items performed better in my car than the MSD stuff. As far as my trying to stall issue, I am going to install a Corvette servo on the transmission (which I was going to do anyway) and replace the mechanical fuel pump (which needs replacing). Then take it from there.
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Well the Hypertech coil, cap and rotor are installed. Took my car out for a spin. The first thing I did notice on first start up, was there was less smoke out of the exhaust. So I take it there is better spark. On acceleration, the car did perform better than with the MSD cap, rotor and coil. The WOT issue is still there, but I at least can get the car to 5000 rpm's with out trying to die out sooner.

So all in all the Hypertech items performed better in my car than the MSD stuff. As far as my trying to stall issue, I am going to install a Corvette servo on the transmission (which I was going to do anyway) and replace the mechanical fuel pump (which needs replacing). Then take it from there.
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I just bought the items from www.summitracing.com

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