Miniram 355 Is now on the road
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Miniram 355 Is now on the road
I finally have my car running. Its a miniramed 355 with AFR 195 Eliminators, Comp Cams 280 XFI, SLP 1 5/8 shorties, duel cats, 58mm TB, Magnaflow 3 inch catback. I plan on upgrading to Dyno Dons shorties soon.
My build thread is located here...
http://socaltpi.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20
Here are a couple videos...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0Mjls4yLMo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hccacwFX_Tw
My build thread is located here...
http://socaltpi.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20
Here are a couple videos...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0Mjls4yLMo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hccacwFX_Tw
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Car: '91 Z28 L98 G92
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Re: Miniram 355 Is now on the road
Looks great, sounds great; how does it feel? Stock converter, or higher stall?
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At first it felt like a glorified 305 but my neighbor burned me a chip with an LT1 timing curve and it feels a lot better. So far I have driven it about 150 miles and I haven't brought it passed 4500 rpm. I can feel the powerband start around 3500, so I'm eager to see what happens when I go to 6 grand.
As for the stall I am using the baby 2000 stall I got when the transmission was built 2 years ago. I want to get Dons headers and the car dyno'd before I choose a stall.
Overall I am happy with it and cant wait until I can do a real WOT pull.
-Tony
As for the stall I am using the baby 2000 stall I got when the transmission was built 2 years ago. I want to get Dons headers and the car dyno'd before I choose a stall.
Overall I am happy with it and cant wait until I can do a real WOT pull.
-Tony
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Car: 84 TA / 89 Formula
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Transmission: T56 / 700R4
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Gotta look at those links later on but sounds good what you have there. Do you have a wideband to verify the air/fuel ratios are good? I'd make darn sure they are before getting on it
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I'll ditto what ownor said about fuel tuning, and add that, even on your 355, that cam is small for the Miniram. It wants to rev to 7,000 and will make good power well past 6,500. To do that it needs atleast 240 degrees of .050 duration and as much lift as your heads allow, which is about .600. Also, when you talk to Don think about 1.75 primaries and a 3.5" exhaust.
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Yeah, let us know how it runs when you get it broke in. (et.'s or dyno #'s maybe?) I'm gonna be running the exact same combo. I've got the afr's already hoping to swap this fall. Still gotta get the cam, LS7 lifters, gaskets ect.
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I had a combo very close to yours
A 383 sbc stroker, 195 AFR, 1 5/8 headers and open exhaust, 280XFi, LT1 intake(very close to a mini ram).
I had 3.73 gears and a 700r4 and 3200 stall.
I did 377rwhp N/A and a best of 12.09 in the 1/4 in a 3650lb GTA.
Mine would like to rev to 6500, and it would prolly rev higher if I had 1 3/4 headers
A 383 sbc stroker, 195 AFR, 1 5/8 headers and open exhaust, 280XFi, LT1 intake(very close to a mini ram).
I had 3.73 gears and a 700r4 and 3200 stall.
I did 377rwhp N/A and a best of 12.09 in the 1/4 in a 3650lb GTA.
Mine would like to rev to 6500, and it would prolly rev higher if I had 1 3/4 headers
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Wow! All of a sudden this thread picked up.
Woops. No I don't. Ok so I have gotten on it and did manage to bring it up to 6000 rpm, and it felt amazing. I talked to my engine builder about getting on it and he said it would be ok since the engine was already on the engine dyno. As for the air/fuel ratios I should get that checked out.
Of course I plan on taking it to Irwindale(1/8th mile) next week if I have it off. I want to see before and after results with my current shift points then later. Then with the 1 5/8th headers that I have now and the 1 3/4 when I get them.
Your rwhp number and E.T. is what I was shooting for with this engine. What worries me is that you had a 383 and mine is only a 355, but I have seen 350's on here with this cam supporting those numbers so hopefully I can reach my goal.
I had a combo very close to yours
A 383 sbc stroker, 195 AFR, 1 5/8 headers and open exhaust, 280XFi, LT1 intake(very close to a mini ram).
I had 3.73 gears and a 700r4 and 3200 stall.
I did 377rwhp N/A and a best of 12.09 in the 1/4 in a 3650lb GTA.
Mine would like to rev to 6500, and it would prolly rev higher if I had 1 3/4 headers
A 383 sbc stroker, 195 AFR, 1 5/8 headers and open exhaust, 280XFi, LT1 intake(very close to a mini ram).
I had 3.73 gears and a 700r4 and 3200 stall.
I did 377rwhp N/A and a best of 12.09 in the 1/4 in a 3650lb GTA.
Mine would like to rev to 6500, and it would prolly rev higher if I had 1 3/4 headers
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Car: 84 TA / 89 Formula
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Axle/Gears: 3.73 / 3.27
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I had a combo very close to yours
A 383 sbc stroker, 195 AFR, 1 5/8 headers and open exhaust, 280XFi, LT1 intake(very close to a mini ram).
I had 3.73 gears and a 700r4 and 3200 stall.
I did 377rwhp N/A and a best of 12.09 in the 1/4 in a 3650lb GTA.
Mine would like to rev to 6500, and it would prolly rev higher if I had 1 3/4 headers
A 383 sbc stroker, 195 AFR, 1 5/8 headers and open exhaust, 280XFi, LT1 intake(very close to a mini ram).
I had 3.73 gears and a 700r4 and 3200 stall.
I did 377rwhp N/A and a best of 12.09 in the 1/4 in a 3650lb GTA.
Mine would like to rev to 6500, and it would prolly rev higher if I had 1 3/4 headers
Can your bottom end/valve train handle higher rpm, say in the range of about 7k? Cause that's where this setup would feel at home imho.
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So a 383 with basically the same setup.. That would also back up the guess that with a smaller 350 the powerband would be peakier and shift up by say, 500 rpms give or take. Power could be close though, but the 3.42 won't help to reach a faster 1/4, might be a tad slower..
Can your bottom end/valve train handle higher rpm, say in the range of about 7k? Cause that's where this setup would feel at home imho.
Can your bottom end/valve train handle higher rpm, say in the range of about 7k? Cause that's where this setup would feel at home imho.
As for the top end I have the AFR 195 Eliminators with the 8019 spring upgrade and 3/8 studs. I am using LS7 lifters. The heads are also bolted down with ARP bolts.
I also believe I need to upgrade my fuel pump. It was replaced back in 06 when I first got the car but I don't know what the mechanic used. I am assuming stock replacement.
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Ok.. maybe someone else can chime in here on what the bottom end (rods, crank) can take rpm-wise? I'm sure the rest of your combo would respond well to higher redline..
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zz-4 rods are powder metal and stronger than pink rods and the arp rod bolts help a lot. The cast crank and 2 bolt are the weak point tho. It'll be ok if he keeps it under 6500ish IMO.
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The top end power limit of your combination will be cut by the 280 cam. That cam is on the small side for the Miniram. You would be better off with the ZZX(240/240@.050 .560/.560) those lift numbers are with 1.5 rockers and become .600 with 1.6 rockers. With that cam, the Miniram will rev strong to 7,000.
Whether your cast crank will take the revs depends alot on your balance point. The rotating assembly is balanced two ways. First,the weight of the rods and pistons is static balanced, then the assembly is spun on a lathe and dynamic balanced at a given speed which you can decide. I like 6,000rpm for a high test small block. So, at 6,000rpm it is at zero balance. Therefore, 7,000 isn't far from its zero balance point. The rest of the rev range is handled by the fluid damper. The damper you use is second only to balance in crank survival.
Whether your cast crank will take the revs depends alot on your balance point. The rotating assembly is balanced two ways. First,the weight of the rods and pistons is static balanced, then the assembly is spun on a lathe and dynamic balanced at a given speed which you can decide. I like 6,000rpm for a high test small block. So, at 6,000rpm it is at zero balance. Therefore, 7,000 isn't far from its zero balance point. The rest of the rev range is handled by the fluid damper. The damper you use is second only to balance in crank survival.
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I had the transmission adjusted to shift at 6000 rpm at WOT. So I went to Irwindale last night (1/8 mile) and got five runs in. I still have a lot of work to do. My best run was my first one. (go figure) These runs were done on street tire.
1st
60' 1.975
1/8 8.765
mph 80.88
2nd trany kicked back down into second
60' 2.005
1/8 9.060
mph 75.54
3rd spun a little off the line, took off the air lid
60' 2.029
1/8 8.884
mph 79.72
4th meh... Put air lid back on but left the filters out
60' 1.958
1/8 8.876
mph 78.01
5th Trany shifted way to early into second about 4500 air lid on
60' 2.013
1/8 9.155
mph 75.15
I was expecting to run 8.5's There was a TA there that was running a hair faster than I was and he was a bolt on 350 TPI. So I said wtf.
Granted I still need
1.CAI
2.Upgrade from 1 5/8 headers to 1 3/4
3. Stall
4.Dyno Tune
5. Tire
Then perhaps adjusting the shift points higher if I need to.
1st
60' 1.975
1/8 8.765
mph 80.88
2nd trany kicked back down into second
60' 2.005
1/8 9.060
mph 75.54
3rd spun a little off the line, took off the air lid
60' 2.029
1/8 8.884
mph 79.72
4th meh... Put air lid back on but left the filters out
60' 1.958
1/8 8.876
mph 78.01
5th Trany shifted way to early into second about 4500 air lid on
60' 2.013
1/8 9.155
mph 75.15
I was expecting to run 8.5's There was a TA there that was running a hair faster than I was and he was a bolt on 350 TPI. So I said wtf.
Granted I still need
1.CAI
2.Upgrade from 1 5/8 headers to 1 3/4
3. Stall
4.Dyno Tune
5. Tire
Then perhaps adjusting the shift points higher if I need to.
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Re: Miniram 355 Is now on the road
First of all it is not tune. Second, you need to shift around or close to 6500.
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As far as your air lid goes, look at what Ibad91Z is doing with the stock unit. I did this mod to mine this winter and the difference is huge. Also, the Iroc was made for ram air and it really does work wonders.
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I got the car on the dyno today. 397 rwhp and 353 rwtq. I still need to upgrade from 1 5/8 headers to 1 3/4 and get a proper cold air intake.
Graphs and videos to come...
Graphs and videos to come...
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Nice numbers but that combo needs 4000 stall to get the most out of it. Shift atleast at 6500. My friend is running 3600 in his with old school AFR 190's with stealth ram and 3.90 gear but 28" tire, its been 7.7's at 87 I believe it was and its suffering horrible valve float. Even with 3600 you can hear the car come into power well after the intial launch, so its needs more converter
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Those are very good numbers considering that this is with an unlocked torque converter. He was having problems with the transmission but he would easily had 400+rwhp. With his future mods he has a ways to go horsepower wise.
Those 1 5/8" headers are covering up the exhaust ports on his AFR heads. Not good. With a new larger cold air intake the numbers will also rise some more. What this boils down to is air flow. Gentlemen open up your intake runners.
Those 1 5/8" headers are covering up the exhaust ports on his AFR heads. Not good. With a new larger cold air intake the numbers will also rise some more. What this boils down to is air flow. Gentlemen open up your intake runners.
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