grngryoutmyway

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Filled her up and gas started leaking out when parked for about 2 days. I couldnt see where it was coming from but gas was dripping down the back corner in the drivers side. I'm assuming that theres a hole rusted in the top. Just looking for other alternatives that it may be. I'm planning on just swapping out a new tank, what other tanks fit without exstensive modification to the sending units and such?

Tonyrodz

Mine leaks too--but on certain years the welds gave out where the filler neck meets the tank(so I've read). My 86 does it.
Are you sure that isn't your problem?
Anyone know how to fix this?

grngryoutmyway

iTrader: (1)

That could very well be my problem. It seems to be leaking from that area.. I cant quite look up there.. and its a daily driver so if I'm gonna pull stuff off I'm gonna wait til I have stuff to fix it with.

Tonyrodz

Let me know if you find something that works to stop the leak.
It'll be a big job to replace the gas tank.

tom3

Those tanks are hard to get out, and expensive to replace. There is a plastic panel in the wheel well you can take out and get to that area. Maybe get some of the stick type sealer and mold it around the neck. Seems to be a common problem on our cars.

treeohfive

i also recently suffered from a hole in my gas tank, cept a ROCK gashed my tank...nothing would patch it since it was a crack rather than a pin hole......

i ended up pulling the tank out of my 86 parts car and it has a hole in it too!! haha go figure...some moron tried to ground an amp back there and drilled into the top of the gas tank.

i said screw it, its at the top, i cleaned the area REAL well with ACETONE ...good ten times...sanded...more acetone...then 4 coats of jb weld.

no matter where you go to put a patch..make sure you clean it REAL well.

the seal for the assebly lines at the top of the tank may be leaking.

treeohfive

i know 92s are famous for leaking around the filler neck...there were recalls on it. dealership might replace it for free IF your car indicates the signs of the actual filler neck leaking

grngryoutmyway

iTrader: (1)

ill pull that patch of and look at the weld... it probably is where the filler neck is welded on. What is JB weld?

Tonyrodz

I thought about jb weld but I wasn't sure if it would work or not.
The only time mine leaks is when I fill it all the way to the top--also--whoever had my car before me-whatever work they did to it, the filler neck is resting on the lower part of the gas cap hole--so there's weight pushing on the neck(which I'm sure is what cracked it).

treeohfive

unless the gas tank straps are seriously loose theres no weight on the filler neck, those straps hold the tank on the car pretty well.

Adrenaline

If it is the fuel neck filler, then look into the TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) for your year camaro, for some of them this was a factory imperfection straight frm GM, and you may be able to get it fixed professionally, for FREE. look into it. or get back to me with your VIN # and ill try and look it up for you at school on ALLDATA.

Good luck

grngryoutmyway

iTrader: (1)

I took out the little panel today, I could definately see some discoloring and such that look like signs of leaking from the filler tube. What is JB weld? I might have to use that if I cant get it replaced

oh and i found this on alldata.. for the 92 specifically, its actually a safety recall and not a service bulletin

TSB Number Issue Date TSB Title
92C36 JUN 94 Recall - Fuel Tank Inspection/Replacement

treeohfive

jb weld is an epoxy that hardens when mixed together to make a durable solid 24 hours later.

tom3

First page of recall:

JUNE, 1994
PRODUCT SAFETY CAMPAIGN 92C36 - FUEL FILLER NECK TO FUEL TANK
SOLDER JOINT
1991-92 CHEVROLET CAMARO PONTIAC FIREBIRD
.
TO: ALL (DIVISION) DEALERS
THE NATIONAL TRAFFIC AND MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY ACT, AS AMENDED, PROVIDE
THAT EACH VEHICLE WHICH IS SUBJECT TO A RECALL CAMPAIGN OF THIS TYPE
MUST BE ADEQUATELY REPAIRED WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME AFTER THE OWNER
HAS TENDERED IT FOR REPAIR. A FAILURE TO REPAIR WITHIN SIXTY (60) DAY
AFTER TENDER OF A VEHICLE IS PRIMA FACIE EVIDENCE OF FAILURE TO REPAIR
WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME.
IF THE CONDITION IS NOT ADEQUATELY REPAIRED WITHIN A REASONABLE
TIME, THE OWNER MAY BE ENTITLED TO AN IDENTICAL OR REASONABLY
EQUIVALENT VEHICLE AT NO CHARGE OR TO A REFUND OF THE PURCHASE PRICE
LESS A REASONABLE ALLOWANCE FOR DEPRECIATION.
TO AVOID HAVING TO PROVIDE THESE BURDENSOME SOLUTIONS, EVERY EFFORT
MUST BE MADE TO PROMPTLY SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT WITH EACH OWNER AND
TO REPAIR THEIR VEHICLE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AS YOU WILL SEE IN
READING THE ATTACHED COpy OF THE LETTER THAT IS BEING SENT TO
OWNERS, THE OWNERS ARE BEING INSTRUCTED TO CONTACT THE CHEVROLET
CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE CENTER IF THEIR DEALER DOES NOT REMEDY THE
CONDITION WITHIN FIVE (5) DAYS OF THE MUTUALLY AGREED UPON SERVICE
DATE. IF THE CONDITION IS NOT REMEDIED WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME,
THEY ARE INSTRUCTED ON HOW TO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC
SAFETY ADMINISTRATION.
DEFECT INVOLVED
GENERAL MOTORS HAS DETERMINED THAT CERTAIN 1991-92 CHEVROLET CAMARO
MODEL VEHICLES FAIL TO CONFORM TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF FEDERAL MOTOR
VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARD (FMVSS) 301, "FUEL SYSTEM INTEGRITY". THESE
VEHICLES COULD EXHIBIT CRACKS OR "PIN HOLES" AT THE FUEL FILLER NECK
SOLDER JOINT. THIS COULD RESULT IN FUEL ODOR OR FUEL LEAKAGE. IF
AN IGNITION SOURCE WAS PRESENT, FUEL LEAKAGE RESULTING FROM THIS
CONDITION COULD RESULT IN A VEHICLE FIRE.
TO CORRECT THIS CONDITION, DEALERS ARE TO INSPECT THE FUEL TANKS OF
INVOLVED VEHICLES AND REPLACE THOSE TANKS THAT EXHIBIT THE CRACK OR
"PIN HOLE" CONDITION.
IN ADDITION, FOR VEHICLES WHICH REQUIRE FUEL TANK REPLACEMENT,
OWNERS ARE BEING INFORMED THAT AN ALTERNATE MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION
WILL BE PROVIDED FREE OF CHARGE UNTIL THE FUEL TANK REPLACEMENT IS
COMPLETED.
VEHICLES INVOLVED
INVOLVED ARE CERTAIN 1991-92 CHEVROLET CAMARO MODEL VEHICLES BUILT
WITHIN THE FOLLOWING VIN BREAKPOINTS:
YEAR MODEL PLANT CODE FROM THROUGH
1991 F-CAR VAN NUYS L ML100001 ML200843 CHEVROLET
1992 F-CAR VAN NUYS L NL100001 NL170008 CHEVROLET
(and similiar Firebirds etc.)

Tonyrodz

Sux for me since my car is an 86!

tom3

I'd say it would take an act of congress to get them to fix the cars specified even with this recall. Hell, GM won't even fix their new cars these days.

treeohfive

indeed....dont expect gm to fix a car from 1992..in 2004...they will claim its either too late, already fixed, or thats not the actual problem

tom3

Considering the price of the tank and the work involved, I'd sure go to the limit to get it fixed under the recall. Note the NHTSA is involved with this too so you can get some help there. Have seen a post on here showing a resoldered tank that worked ok, but I'd push for a replacement.

grngryoutmyway

iTrader: (1)

I will definately be trying, that note from the recall will help since I have documentation saying they must buy my car if they dont fix it

treeohfive

man..i feel your pain.... my brand new fuel pump leaks.....and this is RIGHT after i had to pull my original tank and replace it due to a hole in the bottom....luckily i had a 86 with a tank in it...but it had a hole in the TOP of the tank...and i patched it..should be ok....due to the price of gas ill never see a full tank anyways...

but yeah....i definatly know how you feel and then some...ive pulled out and installed 3 gas tanks this month...and now this fuel pump....

i tried to tighten the fuel pump housing bolts...a bolt broke under 5 lbs of torque....so now i gotta find a exact replica of the bolt to stick in it to send it back to IOWA to get a replacement. (im in sc)

anyways...... i FEEL your pain man...

coz

So I have the cracked filler neck problem. My dealer, who's generally pretty good to me, tells me that after seven years from the date of the recall GM is no longer liable for or obligated to correct the problem. I've emailed the NHTSA and asked them to confirm or deny the dealer's claim.

Dark Mavis

The very first thing I did to my camaro was replace the gas tank. PITA. You have to drop the entire back end and make sure the car is high enough because even when the back end is dropped clearance is still difficult. The tank was roughly $300.00 and of course labor was $0.00 since I did it in my driveway. Make sure that when u disconnect fuel lines, you someone map out how they were so u can put them back in the same fashion. Its easy to make a mistake and its a terrible thing to overlook. Good luck though (btw, got the tank from Advanced Auto).

scottmoyer

A safety recall is good indefinately. Dealers like to try and get out fixing something older, but legally they have to. The seatbelt recall on third gens is still valid since it's a safety recall.

If the service dept. refuses to repair, get in touch with another dealer or the dealers GM. If you need to, talk with the Chevrolet Customer assisitance center for repair authorization. I also have the phone number to Chevrolet's Vice President of Customer Service in Detroit. It's his direct line if you can't get this resolved.

Psycho_91Camaro

My 1991 RS is leaking ALOT!!!!!!!! when the Drivers side is lower than passanger! If my Local dealership refuses to fix this ill need that number! =) even if im the Third Owner and its November 2005 they can still fix it right? Has anyone even attempted to fix this problem at any dealership? and if so what was the outcome?

87CIZ

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swapping tanks isn't really that hard. but maybe that's since i have alot of practice due to my poor luck with fuel pumps. I've changed the fuel pump 4 times in 2 years. Anyway about the tank leaking this was my last encounter i had a pin hole in the bottom of my tank and the sealer i bought (which was $8.99!) didn't stop the leak. i emptied the tank,wire brushed all the loose stuff off, sanded the tank around the surrounding metal with 80grit, whiped it with acetone. Then put the stop leak epoxy on. I let it sit overnight, put gas in it and drove to work the next day. Sure as hell when i get to work it's leaking again, not as bad though. Put another layer of the epoxy on top of the first one and it didn't help either. when my tank pressurized it just seeped around and through the patch. So I replaced the tank the next day. If the hole is on top the patch stuff might work. I think JB Weld would have worked, but i didn't even think of it at the time.

JB Weld is a 2 part epoxy that hardens extremely hard it's also called a cold weld. It's good stuff.

elky74

I have a quick question on this topic: Is this also a problem for Firebirds?

Spiers

iTrader: (7)

I got a 91 'bird and mine leaks too. Just at the filler neck when it's filled all the way up. I know there's a recall on my year model but the dealer said they showed no open recall on it. I even called the number for Pontiac or something, but they also said they showed no recall. I try to park with the driver's side higher up when I'm full so it doesn't leak.

If you search here, you'll find a ton of other topics about the same exact problem. You think if I filled my tank up, went to the dealer, parked so it leaked really bad, and brought a paper showing a recall on that year model, they would consider fixing it?

elky74

Highly doubtful. You know they won't fix anything unless they REALLY have to. And then when they do, it's rarely ever done right. This seems to apply to a lot of things in life.

Psycho_91Camaro

Ok so today at lunch I went to my local dealer ship in Torrance Ca, MARTIN CHEVROLET
Heres what happend:

Took my car to the service dept

Informed the Service Consultant about my problem (GAS TANK LEAKAGE) and the recall
He said ok lets look up your VIN number so I handed him my registration and he looked it up on the computer and it came up OPEN and he scheduled me for 7-8am on wednsday

Then he went to go check stock

Came back and said "We dont have that part here"

Then he said he would investigate to see if he can get the part

And then told me he would call me back in a couple of days

So prepare for **** like this, instead of calling im going to show up in the service dept early in the morn! and be there in person with LEGAL PAPER WORK describing that they BY LAW need to repair this safety recall.

so now we wait till wendsday! I shall keep you all posted on my situation!! so right now everything is looking alright. At least the recall is still open for my car!

JeremyNYR

iTrader: (2)

it isn't reasonable to expect that every or any dealership has a thirdgen f-body gas tank in stock. Give the guy a chance before you show up threatening him with legal papers.

Psycho_91Camaro

Oh If he needs to order the part and have it shipped to his dealership then thats fine, but if he comes up with some excuse leading him not to be able to repair my camaro then we have a problem.

Psycho_91Camaro

Talked to the kat early in the morn! said he ordered the part and will call me as soon as it gets there!

Psycho_91Camaro

The Part arrived last friday and im scheduled for early thursday!!!! yeeeah!!!!! FREEE GAS TANK

85f-bird

congrats....hey, what about 4th gen tanks? i didn't read that being mentioned,but i remember hearing people had swapped to them b4, and i was believing it was a direct swap. The 4th gen tank is also plastic, so ontop of being newer by sometimes more than 10 years, it won't rust out, and will also save you weight....

gerrym

I had a gas leak on my '90 RS. Painful to fix, easy to get to. It was a hair split in the tank right where one of the straps holds on to it.

I assume it was there since my tank has been known to GROAN... gets put under a vacuum and distorts the tank, until I open the cap and all the air rushes in and equalizes things. Common GM issue from what I understand, but don't know if its the cap or what ?

My issue with fixing it was JB Weld didn't hold, Epoxy didn't hold, both were tried on several occasions over about 18 months. They'd hold for a while then start self destructing.

The fix was a small die grinder, carefully ground some serious scratches into the tank, then sealed it with the new 3M 'gray' RTV.

Been there about 6 months now, and dry as a bone. It needed something that would flex a little.

Man... now this thing gets GOOD gas mileage again!! V6 and 30 mpg on the interstate. Yep, I like it.

Gerry-