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Old 11-21-2004, 02:45 PM
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LS1 Front Brake Upgrade Questions

I have read the articles concerning the LS1 front brake upgrade, and need to clarify some items.

Does the "hub" for this upgrade NEED to be from a 1LE rotor, or can my existing front rotor be used as the hub?

Also, if I get two spindles complete with calipers and rotors still on them, will anything beside new hoses be missing?

Can I use my existing hoses, since they are still good?

This upgrade does NOT require cutting off the bump stops, correct?

Thanks for the help.
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Does the "hub" for this upgrade NEED to be from a 1LE rotor, or can my existing front rotor be used as the hub?
No regular rotor works fine although not as strong as a 1LE but not w big concern IMO.

Also, if I get two spindles complete with calipers and rotors still on them, will anything beside new hoses be missing?
Kinda hard to tell you what you are going to get unless you are taking these parts off of a car yourself how could you know? Just ask whomever you are buying these from what all is there.

Can I use my existing hoses, since they are still good?
Yes.

This upgrade does NOT require cutting off the bump stops, correct?
No.
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My input differs on this just a bit:

Does the "hub" for this upgrade NEED to be from a 1LE rotor, or can my existing front rotor be used as the hub?
As it's "designed" right now, you can't use a 1LE hub without using a 5/8" thick bracket. The 1LE hubs add .300" more outward offset than a stock hub has so the bracket would have to be that much thicker. I use 5/16" thick brackets (.3125").

This upgrade does NOT require cutting off the bump stops, correct?
Unless someone does them different, you DO have to remove it. Here's a pic, the stop is where the red lines are.

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Damn...pic too small.

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Thanks for the information. Is there any brake upgrade besides the 1LE that allows you to keep the bump stop?

And is the 1LE upgrade still more expensive that others? If so, is it just because used parts are difficult to find?

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Old 11-21-2004, 06:29 PM
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C5 lets you keep the stop but it also requires 17" wheels. BTW, the stop on the spindle never really touches the stop on the A-arm so it's not really needed. We debated this in depth a while back...you won't miss it.

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im going to try and make a functional bump stop on mine this winter. anyways, i highly recommend going through ed, and i have to say these brakes are the best thing ive done on my car, it now stops like a sports car should
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My appologies on the incorrect info re the 1LE rotor I was unaware that there was a bracket thickness related issue there I did the C5 swap so I left the bumpstop but can see from those brackets you use Ed that it does indeed have to be removed. I have seen some different brackets around here thought that may or may not require this I dunno. Nonetheless...

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Ed knows his stuff and would not steer you wrong
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Yea, I agree. Ed sems to be the guru of these types of mods, and I appreciate him taking the time to answer my questions.

Ed, I must have missed that thread discussing bump stops. Thanks again for all of the knowledge.
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I saved my bumpstops. Info is in FAQ thread.

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Originally posted by red87iroc
Gents:

Thanks for the information. Is there any brake upgrade besides the 1LE that allows you to keep the bump stop?
Yes, but its a one-of a kind handbuilt setup and runs about $2500
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Thanks for the info.....I will go back and re-read the FAQ post.

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I am sure they work quite well, but a little out of my price range!

Thanks for sharing, though.
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Yep, forgot about the Allen bolt usage thing, that would work fine, BUT...here's my point:

If you look at his picture he linked, there's a shiny spot (as viewed) in the middle of the cast circle of round things, just to the right of the shiny lower spindle bolt. This is where the stop on the A-arm actually hits the spindle, so you can see that the steering stop really doesn't do anything so there's no harm in removing it (IMO).

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