Timmys88Z

Anyone know if these are any good? How they fit? Etc, etc?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=14945

blyth18md

email the seller and see if he has any pictures of installs, ask him what the box is constructed of...dont settle for anything less an 3/4" mdf. Ask him how the joints are sealed? ask if its screwed or nailed....Make sure the box is the right volume for your subs. Some people dont realize how important the right enclosure is.

iusedtobebrober

Looks like a crappy thin particul board box, plus over 1 cf per 10 inch woofer? Id go get some mdf and make my own box, its really not to hard to do. Look at the box closer its not a quality box.

RedGTAWSU

I had a buddy of mine build mine. He does it for a living, and they made sure it was perfect. It doesn't look the best sitting in the back, but it fits, doesn't make noises, and it's the right volume inside. The most important thing about a sub box is the volume and port placement (if you have ports). Each sub has it's own amount of volume it will need. Just pick your subs, and then go to a local shop to pick your box. If you feel you can do it yourself, there are places to find the volume you'll need for that sub on the internet, then do some math and draw out a diagram of the box, then build.

Ryan

Timmys88Z

I dont have the means nor time to build my own, or any friends to do it. So I will eventually buy one. Thanks for the input though, I did email the seller and we'll see what they say.

Jim85IROC

iTrader: (2)

The box in the pic is particle board, and appears to be your run-of-the-mill cheap POS box. It's fine for a pair of Sony Xplods, but I sure as hell wouldn't expect a good sub to sound good in there, nor would I expect the box to maintain what integrity it has for long if you're running a high powered system.

napalmdemos

Its a ripoff, they only send the top board of the box you stiil will have to build a box under it. I have seen this scam before on ebay.

br()bert

You can look at the picture and tell its trash, you mite as well put your subs in a trashcan.

2 dope

it looks ok to me but im no expert

Sickness91Z28

iTrader: (1)

people say these boxes are trash...but my friend bought one for his 91 RS....and it sounds great. He 0only paid 80 bucks for it I think. They didn't just send him the top....they sent him the whole box. Yes....it is thin material.....but it sounds just as good...if not better then the JL box I have in my car....

br()bert

A thin box will NEVER sound as good as a thicker mdf box. If you take two boxes, both with the same sub, same vas, same wattage, one made of the thin crappy particle board like your ebay box and one made of even 1/2 inch mdf, the mdf box will sound better and last alot longer. Not to mention a 4 foot by 8 foot sheet of mdf here in Philly at homedepot is like $25. That and a tube of liquid nails and you can make more then one box depending on the size. Most things you buy you get what you pay for, sub boxes are the exception, most you see online and even some from some audio shops are crap. Particle board just as good? Thats like saying a vw bug is just as fast as a porshe ( im tired i forget how to spell it right now lol)

2 dope

werent the boxes from a few years ago made by the cheap particle board?

2 dope

ya and why do they not allow anyone to read the feedback reviews, they tryin to hide somethin? Ebay has some stupid policies man, why would anyone be allowed to hide thier reviews?

br()bert

the cheap ones yes

2 dope

so how long has MDF been used for boxes then?

lykan

you cant hide the 39 negative feedbacks why is he still allwoed to do business.. yeck!

napalmdemos

As long as ebay gets paid they dont care.

3.1RS

I emailed them and they said that they use 5/8 and use a chemabond sealer and t-nails for construction.......i emailed them back to ask if the entire box is included

jcurrieirocz

i wouldnt buy them just because of the 2 neg feedbacks in the past 7days!

I think the box would be ok not the best but its not that bad. Yes 3/4 mdf is the best, 1/2 mdf or partical is ok but 1'' mdf thats overkill! Come on guys look at some speaker boxes in your home, there no where near 3/4 mdf, most are 1/2 or less partical board and they sound great.
Thing is partical board breaks easyer if busted up....but in your trunk its ganna take some massive sub to bust a side out of that box, which i dont think will happen. Its a good price for what your getting with shipping included but dont buy it from them!

So just go ask around at sterio stores for good people that build boxes,,,get some guy to build you one out of 3/4 mdf and youll be happyer and spend about the same $. Look around for a used one even!

br()bert

Ive busted three boxes made out of particle board. It is crap. And any REAL high end loudspeaker in your home will not use the crap either, This is not a debate, it is a proven FACT that mdf is better. One inch mdf is kinda thick for most subs but in some cases it is needed. For the last time PARTICLE board is JUNK! If you are happy with JUNK then do as you wish.

lykan

Well i mailed the guy, asklked to see his feedback i said

"Anyway io could check out some of your feedback, i jutst like to feel comfortable before i make a bid"

He responded

>Feedback is all an opinion...everybody has one...we have >learned that this
>forum is used as a retalitory factor to those who don't pay and we leave a
>warning for...they have no recourse other than the negatives.
>our record stands for itself:
> Dishes4you

Well with 40 negatives I would definetaly argue that it does speak for itself, but most notably not in his favor.

Thought I would share that with you before you made a buy.

br()bert

Ever since i heard of that kid selling computer towers with nothing but a brick inside i stay away from ebay

Jim85IROC

iTrader: (2)

GOOD home speakers use 1" or even 1.5" MDF or solid wood, with extensive bracing inside. Furthermore, home speakers rarely see anywhere near the sort of sound pressure levels that car speakers do. When's the last time you saw somebody pushing 1,000 or more watts into a pair of home speakers and producing sound pressure levels in excess of 140dB?

Even if you never blow the box apart, the box itself will resonate, which has a dramatic effect on the sound quality. If all you use is something like Sony or Volvenhag subs, with an amp that can barely squeeze out 200 watts, then using an inferior box isn't going to result in a major difference, but I guarantee that if you drop a pair of W7s or Brahmas in that box and push real power through them, you'll physically damage the box, and the speakers, and even before that point you'll never get good sound quality at anything except low volumes.

3.1RS

The guy DOESNT use particle board.....he uses 5/8 mdf......just clarifying......i dont know still doesnt make up for the feed back....allthough he does have so many positives....seems like u would get some negs.

jcurrieirocz

br()bert- Its your choise to stay away from ebay but if you research ones feedback history youll find out exaclty what kind of guy your dealing with. I hate when ebay gets a bad rap from a very slim % of ppl get riped off, it ruins it for other. Ebay is very safe in my opinion, you just got to be smart about what your buying. I also never said high end stuff would ever use 1/2" partical board,,The stuff i heard with it sounds great. And yes i know that mdf if better then partical board. Also what kind of power and subs were you pushing in those 3 boxes you busted up?

Jim85IROC- Ive never seen home speakers running 1' or thicker mdf. But if you say its out then i guess i've been corrected. They must be some high end stuff i want that in my house.
And yes i totaly agree drop a set of high end subs in there your just wasting your time with that box, but he didnt say he was looking for a compatition stuff. I still think it would be fine for a set of kenwoods or sonys too..maybe he could try filling it with foam or fiberglass insolation to cut down on the resonation maybe if hes justs running base model subs....just a thought ive never really had good results trying that tho. It really doenst matter like i said he shouldnt buy one anyhow i think he should make a 3/4mdf one,,it would be just as cheap cost wise, and he'll have a better box.

demicon

Just my two cents worth,

I had always figured MDF was better not really because of strength, but because it was a denser material so it "controlled" the vibration of the speaker better therefore creating clearer and harder hitting sound.

jcurrieirocz

Ohhhh,,well in the pic thats not mdf! Maybe thats where is neg feedback is coming from. It may still not be called partical board I forget the other names out there....but thats not mdf and still not as good. If he does sell mdf boxes then the pic is not what your biding......I could be wrong but ive never seen mdf look like that anywere around here.

thats strike 2 if you ask me bont bid IMO!

Korn1699

I bought two boxes from them before, and they are pretty good... The only trouble I had was with the shipping. I bought one, and UPS lost it. Then I had one for a year, and someone stole my car, and when I got it back all my stuff was gone. I got another one from there, but UPS killed it in shipping... They sent me a new one, and I've been using it now since the spring. I have the 12" model though, and used to have 600w kenwoods, but now have the 700w ones.

Brian Felts

I will say one thing........its never a good thing on E-Bay when a seller has to keep their feedback private.


Brian

2 dope

true dat man, true dat

redbird_400

Yea... there was a dude selling those on this site for a good price, like 80 bucks or so if I remember. I wish I remember his name.. jim something on here I belive. Ehh... Just do what I did, build your own out of Fiberglass. I'm going to build another one and stick it on ebay to see how it sells. Wont be anytime really soon though. but.. Fiberglass sounds BETTER! I put two 10" JBLs 100rms in that same volume box and its LOOOOUUUUDDD those jbls came in a single truck box that held them both, seperated air space and ported. Works fine sealed in my box with one speaker reversed for the downforce effect.

br()bert

the downforce effect.???????????????

Jim85IROC

iTrader: (2)

I believe that follows the same physical principals as the BS effect.

br()bert

the crap people make up these days. I had this guy in work yesterday walk up to ma after hearing my car drive in and start talking about subs. Anyway he told me "yeah yours sounds ok but mine is wayyyyy louder,( ) He goes on to tell me he has a secret that will make any sub hit 100% louder, i ask what is that while i walk away from him , and he says he couts off the dust cap, pours 1/2 cup of 5w 30 motor oil in the coil assembly! Then glues the cap back on!!!!! Common GUYS! who wants to try this one out!!!!!!