Saigon_Bob

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or the guys in the car audio store that sold me these weak subs i have saying that they will pound... also saying that the box i bought would fit in the well area of my car. it didnt

ryanL04

wow. gg. so you had a bad experience with someone that doesnt know what they are talking about. wow get a fcking life and do the damn research yourself. if your gonna spend a shlt load of money on something anyway, do the fkcing research and see if its worth it. its like car. check it out before you buy it. and dont sit there and call me some punk kid thats just triyng to sell stuff. you stupid fcker, i dont get commission and i dont give a rats *** if someone buys the jl audio w3v2 subs or the memphis amp i have. I KNOW that it pounds a lot more/harder than some(not all) of the other shlt thats out there. and another thing, i demo my car because my stereo system fckin beats. and theres not a *** damn bit of "rigging" in it you stupid fckhead.

AmorgetRS

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Please chill a little bit on the langauge. Bypassing the filters is worse then actually letting the filters catch you. Do not make a habit of posts worded as yours, you can get your point across without the langauge.

Kandied91z

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don't know about spl and the rest but i've got more power to run a few blocks..

ScrapMaker

I think he was just pointing out, with respect I might add, that it would be a bad idea to be giving newbies an excuse to burn up their amps/cars by showing them your fuse-less conversion.

You may be fine with your setup, but I can tell you for sure that the 1100d shouldn't blow it's own fuse unless you run it less than 1 ohm.

Saigon_Bob

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yea thank you.. i never accused you a being a punk kid selling what ever. i was mearly making a comment and point that because you or anyone sells something that doesn't make them knowledgable to it. I got my system for x-mas and i got this equipment because it was in a good price range to pick as a gift, it was not what i had intended on getting. Basically i got it becasue it was free( as a gift) and i could pick it up right then instead of waiting.

Now regarding this whole conversation, we are not bashing you. We are telling you that what you did is not safe nor is it proper, it may work "fine" for you but to give a newbie the wrong impression and have them do this wuold be pretty bad.

as far as loudest system.. i dont have any numbers but when i was going to school listening to techno the guy in front of me rolled his window up after about five minute...lol and i start to get headache after about 15 mins.... loud enuff for now

ScrapMaker

15 minutes at your loudest setting?

hrm, I couldn't go more than a minute with mine... my ears get red and I have a headache for the rest of the day...

/never listens to it that loud.

except when I'm NOT in the car, like at the beach or the lake..

Jeffsmean91

I have 2 rockford t1 12's in 4.2 cubic foot slot ported box, rockford t10001bd, t8002, eclipse point source 6x9's, rockford power 4x6's, rockford p series components in kick panels, eclipse 8022 monitor, 2 gauge wire, sound deadener from the rear seats back, and an extra battery. The local shop used a term lab mic. Rockford designed the port to be tuned at 40hz. I hit a 155.2db. I still have some cover plates to build and might get another db or so, but man it's looooouuuddd. I'm changing out the port after the stereo contests are over around here. Believe it or not it is very clean and sounds good, I just have to keep the sub amp down when I'm not doing spl.

Kandied91z

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pictures..

Jeffsmean91

I'll get some pics as soon as I finish the cover plates for the rear. I should be done by this weekend.

NEEDAZ

You are absolutely correct Scrappy, you should never bypass a safety feature on your equipment. It wouldn't break because of it (in this case), but if it breaks, your SOL.

aaron7

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I don't have numbers, but I have numbers of people who have called in noise complaints

Sometimes I listen to it a little loud, like if Slayer is in the CD deck or something. I get out of the car and it sounds like I'm in a silent room...

aaron7

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Not just SOL, but SO of a car due to a nice electrical fire.

ScrapMaker

Hey Jeff... I'm a bit curious how your system sounds with BOTH the 4x6's in the dash, and the components in the kickpanels

pretty much everyone says this is a bad idea... but I, on the other hand, don't have any other use for my Kappa plates that I already have in my dash... so I was thinking of keeping them in, in the case I'm at the beach or something, and I just need a lil' extra projecting sound from my car...

how is the 'imaging' from the driver's seat?

Jeffsmean91

I think it sounds great. I unhooked the 4x6's and I didn't really like the sound near as well. I'm sure I'm not running my crossover frequency on the amp right, but it sounds pretty good. I bridged the components with the 4x6's so I could have front to rear fade still. That bridges my amp down to 2 ohm on the front two channels. I doubt the power 4x6's will last long, but hey they're under warranty. hehehe

ScrapMaker

I'd be more worried about the fact that the 4x6's can't get as loud without sounding like crap... compared to the components.... you may be better off using some sort of resistive setup to lower the volume of the 4x6s compared to the components...

I guess I'll be in the same boat as you... as soon as I get some kickpanels and speakers... (looks at Jim)

traksta15

hey, guys hold on a sec, im gonna go replace the fuses in my car with 10ga wire.....back in a sec....





J/P!!

ScrapMaker

10awg? better make sure its 2awg... you don't want to blow the wire when the amp's internals fuse together!

ryanL04

your an idiot. gg

ScrapMaker

well... there'd be no difference in your case between 10 guage and 2 guage.. because it's not going to blow...


I just can't see why you don't put in the right fuse. if the stock fuse blows, there is obviously a problem... at that, you could still put in a larger REAL fuse, so that you don't melt your car in half in the off-chance that the amp itself fails internally, (not because of your load or wiring.)

good luck.

ryanL04

its done for SPL/compitition purposes. the fuses in the memphis 1100D are internal. its hard as hell to fit two 1 inch pieces of wire with the right connections into the very small area given.

Saigon_Bob

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uhh.. so you are qualifying your bad choices by telling us how hard it is to put the wire where it doesn't belong..... thats like saying i loaded my revolver with .45 caliber bullets even though it's desgned for .40 caliber... it was hard but teh extra power sure pays off.

besides the diff between the wire you used and fuses is that a fuse is designed to be just large enuff to blow in the event of failure. they will both carry power just fine.

ScrapMaker

yeah ryan, have you considered just getting slighty larger fuses? Even though I would never do that myself, in any circumstance, (because they are rated they way they are for a reason,) that would sure beat the hell out of an amplifier fire...

heh, that rhymes.

onebadwagon

i thought he said that the amp was still fused, only now outside of the amp casing, within a foot or two of the amp.


the memphis amps are a PITA to change the fuses on, especially if you have a nice install.

ScrapMaker

I guess I didn't see the part where it was externally fused...

but if it's perfectly safe to fuse it externally via power wire, then why on earth to amps have built-in fuse locations?

onebadwagon

alot of large amplifiers don't have internal fusing.

ScrapMaker

do you mean they don't have any sort of fusing? or that it's not inside the amp?

I guess I haven't been so lucky to see an amp without fuses before...

onebadwagon

Kicker ZR1000, JL 1000/1, there's two to get you started.

yes, you are responsible for fusing them externally.

ryanL04

wow are you serious. youve never seen an amp without internal fuses. obviously not into spl compititons much are ya. jl audio amps dont use internal fuses, as badwagon pointed out just as a starter....

ryanL04

lmao. ur an idiot. read all of my messages before you try to prove me wrong. my amp, even though i took the fuses out of the amplifier and replaced with wire(perfectly safe) its still fused. twice. theres a breaker switch 6 inches from the battery. also, theres a second breaker switch 8inches from the amplifier. so in other words you can pretty much suck my nuts, and have a nice day and yes im a lil drunk right now, so i dont give a rats *** what i say to you right now. speakin the mind!

onebadwagon

breakers are junk ****.

ryanL04

basically same thing as a fuse. but i use breakers cause i run more than one battery.. saftely precausion i guess in case someone t-bones my car theres not a risk of fire with a breaker. stops the current

onebadwagon

nah, breakers aren't the same thing as fuses.

traksta15

either ryanlo4 is really smart (cause he's doing things we've never heard of doing) or really dumb because he's doing stuff we shouldn't be doin to our systems.........just my $.02 though

ryanL04

lmao. when i stop being lazy about things ill just take some damn pictures and show how its done. gimme a day or two to get off my *** and take the amp off the rack and take pictures of it n ****.

Saigon_Bob

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ok well tell me this... will the fuses that are 6 inches away from the amp protect the internals of the amp if something does short out??? because all i can see them protecting is the 6inches of wire between your amp and the fuse

ryanL04

not a fuse. its a breaker. cuts power supply

ScrapMaker

but it still requires a certain amperage to trip the breaker, right?

what amount does it take?

NEEDAZ

And those amps have highly integrated shut down circuits that amps WITH fuses don't have.
Flat out, he has bypassed a vary important safety device, and that's not good. What ever BS explanation he gives, this should NOT be done.
To any one reading this, the right thing to do is use the right fuse. Trust me, the engineers put it there for a reason, (it cost money so they wouldn't use it if they didn't think they needed to) and they DO know better.

ScrapMaker

Saigon_Bob

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that comment right there shows your ignorance..... the only difference between a fuse and a circuit breaker is that a CB is resetable where as you have to buy a new fuse...... either way it does the same thing

ScrapMaker

dude, c'mon Bob... he knows what he's talkin' about...

Ryan, I bet you work at Best Buy or... is it Circuit City?

Saigon_Bob

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he's the regional sales rep for the speaker aisle at Walmart.

ryanL04

your a funny guy. really, be a comedian. thats just hilarious. besides the fact your a complete moron, your a funny guy. funny as how the memphis rep that comes to my car audio place, its his/memphis idea to take out the fuses and run wire.

obviously he only tells the installer/employees who run memphis that because we know what we are doing. if you have absolutely no idea wtf to do, or how to hook it up. IN THAT CASE, then your right bob. whoever would do that would be extremely stupid and risk blowing everything or lighting there car on fire. BUT, OBVIOUSLY, since myself, and the current installer here at the store have been in car audio for the past 5 years and competed many times. im sure we can handle it. an amplifier does NOT have to be fused INSIDE the amplifier(for those amps that can have high power.. ex: jl audio/memphis) they can be fused externally and run just fine and dandy, but giving the amp the capabillity to run more than its underrated saying.

Saigon_Bob

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ok whatever... obviously we are not accoplishing anything here except to waste my time and effort.... you continue doing what you do and i won't criticize it anymore untill you actually tell someone to copy you. only then will i chime in again

AmorgetRS

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Okay, this really has gone long enough. Post locked.