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Old 08-24-2005, 09:34 PM
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Darnit...

Im sure a lot of yas have heard me ranting about the performance audio stuff, and well i finally found a car that had it in the scrap yard, i pulled all the stuff to see all of the harness and their locations, but i didnt buy any of it... im not sure if my car has the harness for the amp, for the rear speakers, and all of that... whats more is taht my car is an 89 and i pulled the stuff from an 88, so i thought the wireing harness would all be different because the stereo's was... my questions are:
1) Does my car have the wires for the 5.25" & 4x6 speaker combo out back
2) Does it have the harness for the gain controler (i did pocket that however)
3) Does it have wires for the amp?
.... thanks for your input, as i kno my questions on this stuff are pretty unusual...
Old 08-27-2005, 02:02 AM
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hmm o well i know 6x9s would sound better any way but its just that coolness factor that weird people like me get from upgrading their car from base model options to top factory crop
Old 08-27-2005, 05:21 PM
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just buy new aftermarket stuff and save urself the trouble... it'll sound better anyhows
Old 08-28-2005, 02:58 PM
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well in my first post i mentioned i did not want aftermarket stuff, for many reasons, and i intend to stay that way, im one of few people of todays generation that plans to keep my older cars stock, and what they offered back in the day wasnt all that bad.
Old 08-28-2005, 03:00 PM
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i want the setup, and intend to upgrade those speakers with aftermarket pieces, but radio will remain the same
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hey to each his own... i just keep getting more and more deaf so i need to upgrade more and more .... j/p..

i just figure that i want to have the best so i get it
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I have a feeling that the wiring would NOT be there for a factory sub, unless you had that initially...

you can use that mounting setup that holds the 4x6 and the 5.25 (subwoofer,) but instead, run them in series with each other, at a 2-ohm load, off of an amp in the rear... I bet that would sound amazing...
Old 08-29-2005, 01:38 PM
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series adds up resistance.... parallel is a lil diff... makes it smaller


if you have the stock headunit... then putting less than 10ohms thru it will start burning the circuitry inside and you'll lose that channel... either look to get at least 10ohms or more for each channel
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my delco speakers were 10ohms... I thought most cars used 8ohms though... weird

yeah, I meant parallel.
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i believe the speakers in my dads explorer are 10ohms
and my moms breeze... btw that system( stock) can rattle the rearview lol
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new car's stereos dominate our cars stock... and even some of our aftermarket stuff... we just have ****-poor mounting locations... until you pony up and get some kickpanel enclosures built for you.
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im prolly gunna devise a new spot for my speaks .... now that my beautiful dash install is all tore up.. i need a new grill for the driverside speak now too... they broke it :"(...

i have a question, if i had a component set( 5.25 and tweeters and x over...) and they took my tweeters... will playing my 5.25s theu the xover hurt nething or should i get new tweeters
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if you mean playing the tweeter frequencies through the woofer, then I'd say it would just sound like crap, and could possibly damage the woofer if you played it too loud...

please don't install your speakers in the dash for your next install! we should start a "Saigon_Bob kickpanel relief fund"...
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aww lol.. if yall wanna buy me kicks ill gladly accept....

BTW i didnt think that they looked bad on the dash and i know that they didnt sound bad....

wat i was asking is will it be ok to use my speakers with the xover with no tweeters hooked up or will i damage the xover.

if nething ill just hook my speakers up to the H/U without the x-over for now.. or justn ot at all.. i need to get the beast running first

edit: i was thinking of cutting up my doors next to put the speakers in... how bout that
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If it's a passive crossover (normally 6db/Octave slope)...won't hurt a thing.
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as long as you don't splice the tweeter connection into the woofer, you'll be fine... say you are just 'missing' the tweeters, you'll be fine.




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