jamon8

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greatest amount of sealed space using the least amount of interior volume

ScrapMaker

so you saved a few 0.1's of cubic feet to go this route?

sounds to me like you just had something to prove...

vorgath

One guy at work has one of the new Mustangs, and in his trunk he has, what one may not expect, two old Kicker amps, one driving his speakers, and one driving his single subwoofer.

The subwoofer runs at 2 Ohm, it's a Rockford Fosgate Punch 2, a little 8 inch, in a pretty small enclosure, and damn does it kick hard.

I guess it's really a lot about design, not size.


Gives me hope *lol* knowing that I can get an old Kicker amp or similar and run two 8" woofers in the backseat area, although I have NO CLUE what so ever as to how I'll mount them, what kind of enclosure I'll make etc etc NO CLUE

jamon8

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I was going with a plate all along, even when I told you I wasnt to get you off my back.

I do have to thank you though! without you telling me how to not do it I could have never formulated the plan to do it right.

I am not doing this because I want to prove you wrong. I am doing it so those of us who think the well of our cars can be used to create massive bass using minimum space and minimum dollars.

The only part that took any time to do was setting up my fan so that I could get the undercoating and the fiberglass to dry overnight.

I have 2 Visonik 10 inch 250 watt rms subs driven by a power acustic amp. apline 6x9's and Jbl 4x6's with a kenwood 425 headunit.

I spent just over 500 dollars not including the isolated dual battery setup. that includes the wires materials and everything.

Any questions please pm me

ScrapMaker

fyi, a 4'x8' peice of MDF is roughly $8... I bet that's cheaper than all the fiberglass and labor you went through...

hey but at least you can be different. That's all that matters, right?

and no you didn't prove anyone wrong... plates are not ideal for most subs, and of course our wells are good for making bass... you just need a big box and some big subs... our cars will pound like any other... except the rattles will drive most people nuts.

I'm always amazed at how far some people will go to be different... but that's what makes life interesting... doesn't really matter if it's easier, cheaper, or more efficient to go the standard route... it's the fact you tried something that others won't.

props.

Gummie

Assuming you're using 3/4" MDF that's another 1.5" of width and depth. It doesn't seem like much but it really starts to add up with larger boxes and boxes. Also, his method will maximize volume a lot better than MDF will. His box conforms to all the well’s curves and doesn’t waste space available in the rounded parts of the well. As we all know, there are no real edges in the well, everything has a curve to it. That's also giving him more volume.

Cost me $20 last time I got a sheet from home depot. current lowes price - when I made that link the price was $21.88 for a 3/4" x 4' x 8' sheet.

That will buy you a gallon of resin from US Composites, which would be way overkill for something like this. Also, he might have done it with stuff he had lying around (already purchased so not factored into his price). I've got no idea.

As for time, my crappy excuse for a MDF box took a good 4 or 5 hours to build. I'm guessing there's about that much time in jamon8's box.

Sorry scrap, but I've got to side with jamon8 gain. You do sound like an *** saying all this. It’s not like he’s attacking you and saying you’re wrong. If the guy is happy let him be.

I will agree that it's off the beaten path and it's not something I would want to do, but it defiantly got the job done if he really sealed up everything. If the seam between the plastic trim and the carpet is solid glass/bedliner then there's a nice airtight seal back there. If he really sealed up everything then he's not running a plate at all but rather turned the whole well into a box, which is what he has been claiming. Sure, the plastic side is going to flex some but with his two subs it's not going to be that big of a problem IMO.

I wouldn’t do it because of the plastic flex and it just doesn’t seem like the “right” way to do it. I don’t want to trash my interior (carpet and hatch trim) in the name of building a sub box.

Now if he was 'different' in that he cut holes in the bottom of the hatch to mount his subs in with the magnets sticking out of the car to run free air I would be saying it was stupid

Also, I’ve got no rattles to speak of but I wish I could get my rear end quiet. Stupid noisy gears

jamon8

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4'x8' sheet $22
fiberglass resin jelly $9
gallon rubberized undercoating $11- had in garage but used 1/2
heavy duty liquid nails $4
nuts, bolts, metal braces $8
2x4, wood screws- I had around the garage

Really guys the only reason that I used the plate method is I am going to take this car around the united states, canada mexico and across the pond maybe. space is a key issue to me even if it is .1 cubic feet, although I am sure I have saved more than that.

I took out my rear seat and behind my seat in the foot area I have the amp mounted on some 2x4s and the hump where the front of the bucket was.

in the seat well I have my 2nd battery. I used the set up of the 2001 Aurora with the battery venting system. Now I need to set up my laptop and mount it somehow buy I have not figured that out yet.

also 4-5 hours seems about right but honestly I could not tell you because I did not do it all in one day. I also forgot the cost of the black velvet. looks pretty cool with speakers.

My rear is whining two and I put some synthetic in it and I might drive it untill it die and bring a ring and pinion kit with me or find a used disc brake unit where ever I may roam.

Sorry for bieng so cocky earlier but my system sounded so good for the amount of money I spent .

kenwood head unit 150
jbl 4x6 50
alpine 6x9 65
power accustic amp 110
Visonik 10's 100
sealed plate and material 50-60
Oh yeah bass blockers 10

The bass hits hard and I can hear the symbols very clear and the singer sound like they are right there in the car with me

ScrapMaker

I just don't understand why you keep calling it a 'plate' setup... seems more like a non-removable box to me...

and no offense intended, but the first time I built a box for my car, it took about an hour from design to finish (well, I let it dry for an hour too)... and all I had was a circular saw and a hand saw... I'm no craftsman either....

guess I was just impatient.

"Really guys the only reason that I used the plate method is I am going to take this car around the united states, canada mexico and across the pond maybe. space is a key issue to me even if it is .1 cubic feet, although I am sure I have saved more than that."

Out of curiosity... when you refer to 'space,' are you referring to the space left over for luggage, or are you talking about the extra space you gained for the subs...?

The reason I thought people made plate setups in the first place was so that they could store luggage underneath, effectively leaving their entire well available for storage... I presume you can no longer remove the plate from your fiberglass 'enclosure,' right?

And sorry if I came off like an ***, but it really sounded like you were being cocky, like 'plates' were ***-like or whatnot... what you have, my good man, is not really a plate setup anymore. Glad it works for you... I had an idea like that where you could 'unlatch' the top of the plate/box, and still put stuff inside... it just required some sort of seal/lip to work properly, and was a big hassle, so I gave up.

SpankAstang92

Im not saying anyone is right or wrong with this whole plate idea. How ever, i used 3/4" MDF wood, and some foam for windows, (the peel and stick) lol. My neighbor advised me to use 2 10" sony xplodes. To my surprise it sounded awesome.

ScrapMaker

It's just that with more powerful woofers, (and perhaps even the sony's,) once you hit hard, the pressure would most likely be enough to lift the plate... causing it to lose what very little pressure it had in the first place...

now, if you make a 'ported' plate, or just use woofers specifically designed for IB, then you might be set..

admrlam

Thanks kid. I needed something to make me feel better about myself today.

AmorgetRS

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I think this thread has run its course.